Is Apple waiting too long to release the next iPhone?

[SlCKB0Y]

A better comparison would be GS4, GS3 and GS2 sales vs i5, i4S and i4 sales.

So because Apple CHOOSES to only bring to market one phone a year and to still sell its antiquated phones that should be used as a basis for comparison to a company with a completely different product model?

Whether a consumer is buying a Galaxy S or Note or any other product line they are still choosing to buy a Samsung phone and not an Apple phone.

Next time try bending your argument to reality and not the other way around.

 

[alice04]

I wouldn't say they JUST released the iPhone 5. However it's a fair assumption that the next iPhone will just be an S upgrade anyways, so at this point, it's all about the software.

Yeah i agree, maybe I just wait for the iPhone6 5s is just a bit upgrade from 5

 

[ChrisTX]

Yeah i agree, maybe I just wait for the iPhone6 5s is just a bit upgrade from 5

The thing about Apple, and the iPhone is that I never felt compelled to upgrade at the "S" upgrades. You always get most of the features in software upgrades anyways. Even as an Android user now, I had the S4 for almost a week, but didn't feel like it was a major revision over my S3. I eventually returned it, and will hold out for something else. If iOS 7 is a major revision, I would consider going back to iPhone.

 

[AppleRobert]

No one considers Apple waiting too long when the S4 and One are selling well? Apple could have bit into those sales.

I was going to wait but I bought the One instead. The screen size of the ip5 never even had me consider it. I am sure some others did not for that reason.

 

[maxosx]

I don't think they're waiting too long and I don't think a summer release is critical.

I'm not that concerned with the timing, since I'd rather have a well sorted out phone, once it's shipped. The lack of something fresh and exciting from Apple has been good to Samsung & HTC, especially since the S4 and One are such outstanding smartphones. Yet no matter what, Apple is lucky to have this extended run of popularity. That Logo remains extremely valuable when it comes to influencing sales.

 

[Tinmania]

So because Apple CHOOSES to only bring to market one phone a year and to still sell its antiquated phones that should be used as a basis for comparison to a company with a completely different product model?

To be fair, the 4S--and arguably the 4--are not "antiquated." I was dismayed that my GF recently got her daughter a 4 and not a 4S/5. But at the end of the day it is still a very usable smart phone.

Michael

 

[SlCKB0Y]

To be fair, the 4S--and arguably the 4--are not "antiquated." I was dismayed that my GF recently got her daughter a 4 and not a 4S/5. But at the end of the day it is still a very usable smart phone.
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I disagree. The iPhone 4 is going on 3 years old next month and the 4S will be 2 years old not too long after that. To put that in perspective, the Galaxy S (1) is about the same age as the iPhone 4.

Smart phones are arguably the fastest developing consumer electronics segment that has ever existed (both in terms of technological advancement and rate of adoption) and a year is a long time, let alone 2 or 3!

 

[Orlandoech]

I'm not that concerned with the timing, since I'd rather have a well sorted out phone, once it's shipped. The lack of something fresh and exciting from Apple has been good to Samsung & HTC, especially since the S4 and One are such outstanding smartphones. Yet no matter what, Apple is lucky to have this extended run of popularity. That Logo remains extremely valuable when it comes to influencing sales.

Sad, but true.

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Yeah i agree, maybe I just wait for the iPhone6 5s is just a bit upgrade from 5

Bit? Usually a "nano" upgrade.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I disagree. The iPhone 4 is going on 3 years old next month and the 4S will be 2 years old not too long after that. To put that in perspective, the Galaxy S (1) is about the same age as the iPhone 4.

Smart phones are arguably the fastest developing consumer electronics segment that has ever existed (both in terms of technological advancement and rate of adoption) and a year is a long time, let alone 2 or 3!

It also depends on what the user wants to do with it though doesn't it? If someone buys an iPhone 4 and only wants it for calling, texting, checking emails, facebook, twitter, taking photo's, listening to music, watching youtube vids, searching the internet, playing games and apps, then a three year old iPhone 4 is perfectly capable of doing all those things very well. For those who get a buzz out of discovering new features and getting kudos from their mates by having the latest phone, then a current phone is more suitable. The tasks I listed above are generally the simple tasks that most people need day to day and phones haven't come along that much IMO that it means older phones can't do the basic stuff.

 

[WonderLight]

I hope it is not just a fingerprint sensor to lure me back I am looking for more ZB to the iPhone, but I fear that you and your prediction is correct 5S.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

If the fingerprint sensor rumor is true and it's Apple's best selling point for the 5S, then it's safe to say the innovation waters have run dry.

 

[onthecouchagain]

Remember when it was said that apple would never play the low cost game? Times be a changing. This is a good thing but I still question what the spec compromises will be for the lower cost iPhone for example.

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2013/05/opinion-apples-latest-move-was-brilliant-and-will-shake-up-the-industry

 

[Tinmania]

I disagree. The iPhone 4 is going on 3 years old next month and the 4S will be 2 years old not too long after that. To put that in perspective, the Galaxy S (1) is about the same age as the iPhone 4.

Well I think the Galaxy S has aged worse than the iPhone 4.

For what the average person uses a smartphone for, the iPhone 4 can still do without issue. In the case of my Gf's daughter that would be texting, email, facebook, instagram, and maybe a few word games (she also has an iPad mini). I don't really see how an iPhone 4S or 5 would be different for her usage (other than the slightly larger screen on the 5).

Michael

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Well I think the Galaxy S has aged worse than the iPhone 4.

Definitely - A lot worse... in fact there probably isn't a phone which has aged better than iPhone 4.

For what the average person uses a smartphone for, the iPhone 4 can still do without issue.

Ok, I think people are taking issue with my use of the word "antiquated". Antiquated does not imply that the object is no longer fit for the use it was originally intended. All I'm saying is that they are selling a 3 year old phone and 3 years is a huge amount of time in this market.

It's also massively overpriced - in Australia I can buy an unsubsidised 8GB Nexus 4 for $349AU. The same capacity iPhone 4 is $449AU.

 

[cnev3]

It's also massively overpriced - in Australia I can buy an unsubsidised 8GB Nexus 4 for $349AU. The same capacity iPhone 4 is $449AU.

Your minimum wage is more than double the US minimum wage, and your dollar is worth more than the american dollar. I'd say those prices are quite fair.

 

[NateEssex]

I feel like it's been too long. We need some innovation.. and a larger screen.

 

[2298754]

It feels too long because Apple is now on a different product cycle than before. Whereas Samsung is releasing a flagship in the Spring, Apple is now doing it in the Fall. Both products have a 1 year cycle, they're just offset by a few months. They're not waiting too long. It's the same amount of time

However, the difference is that Samsung is now on two cycles. New Galaxy S in the Spring and New Note in the Fall. Since Apple doesn't have two major lines of iPhones, there is no reason for them to be moving as fast as Samsung.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Your minimum wage is more than double the US minimum wage, and your dollar is worth more than the american dollar. I'd say those prices are quite fair.

My point wasn't so much in regards to the actual dollar figures, more the ratio between the cost of the Nexus 4 and the iPhone 4. I just think iPhone 4 is overpriced relative to other phones given it's age.

 

[cnev3]

My point wasn't so much in regards to the actual dollar figures, more the ratio between the cost of the Nexus 4 and the iPhone 4. I just think iPhone 4 is overpriced relative to other phones given it's age.

Yeah, it may be because of exchange rates, and because its an asian company vs american company, and there are different taxes and tariffs and whatnot.

I got my iPhone 5 for $99 w/ 2 year agreement and special promo, but the regular price was $199 which was what the HTC One and Galaxy S4 were going for.

 

[lsutigerfan1976]

I don't think it is that apple waits to long to put out another phone. It's just they really do nothing more than incremental changes. I think they rely more on ppl sticking with apple for the os, apps iTunes etc. I just don't know how long they can rely on that solely as being a reason for ppl not to jump ship. They need to start taking a few chances on features on the phone. Be the trend setter here. And I know most would disagree. But there is only so long that they can rely on the os/app exp vs new innovative features before they start losing significant market share.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

I got my iPhone 5 for $99 w/ 2 year agreement and special promo, but the regular price was $199 which was what the HTC One and Galaxy S4 were going for.

I think you must have missed the bit where I said unsubsidised - i.e unlocked and not on a carrier plan.

http://store.apple.com/us/buy/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone4?product=IPHONE4

There is the US pricing - $450 for iPhone 4.
And the Nexus 4 8GB is $299.

An even larger gap than in Australia.

I have no idea why you are even talking about iPhone 5, HTC One, GS4 or providing contract pricing for the above phones when all I am saying is that the iPhone 4 pricing is an absolute rip off for a 3 year old phone compared to what else you can get for much less.

Since you seem incapable of sticking on topic and appear to be either misunderstanding my assertion or purposefully obfuscating the issue, i'm out.

 

[Menel]

I think you must have missed the bit where I said unsubsidised - i.e unlocked and not on a carrier plan.

http://store.apple.com/us/buy/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone4?product=IPHONE4

There is the US pricing - $450 for iPhone 4.
And the Nexus 4 8GB is $299.

An even larger gap than in Australia.

I have no idea why you are even talking about iPhone 5, HTC One, GS4 or providing contract pricing for the above phones when all I am saying is that the iPhone 4 pricing is an absolute rip off for a 3 year old phone compared to what else you can get for much less.

Since you seem incapable of sticking on topic and appear to be either misunderstanding my assertion or purposefully obfuscating the issue, i'm out.

Private market, capitalism. They charge only what the market is willing to pay.

Do the other options you allude to run iOS and are designed with stainless steel and gorilla glass... or merely plastic toys running Android.

 

[cnev3]

I think you must have missed the bit where I said unsubsidised - i.e unlocked and not on a carrier plan.

http://store.apple.com/us/buy/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone4?product=IPHONE4

There is the US pricing - $450 for iPhone 4.
And the Nexus 4 8GB is $299.

An even larger gap than in Australia.

I have no idea why you are even talking about iPhone 5, HTC One, GS4 or providing contract pricing for the above phones when all I am saying is that the iPhone 4 pricing is an absolute rip off for a 3 year old phone compared to what else you can get for much less.

Since you seem incapable of sticking on topic and appear to be either misunderstanding my assertion or purposefully obfuscating the issue, i'm out.

It boggles my mind why people buy phones without rebates and pay retail price, especially when almost everyone signs a contract anyways.

I got your point about the uneven prices. I'm merely pointing out that it is possible to get a better deal, or in my case, a great deal. Don't lay your attitude on me because you're jealous that I got a new iPhone 5 for $99 bro.