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Boring can be good sometimes. The general public doesn't like drastic change, they like what is familiar and comfortable which is part of the reason the iPhone is so popular. Just give them slight improvements and refinements to what they are already used to every year and it will be fine.
 
What I find interesting is that this year, Apple finally allowed (via alternate methods) more customization of iOS. You now have custom icons and widgets.

Now, there has been a collective amnesia about widgets because Apple introduced those in iOS 6, but took it away with iOS 7. They aren't new. You can just place them on the homescreen now. Something Dashboard-X (a jailbreak tweak) allowed in iOS 6.

So, two things that jailbreakers have been doing since at least iOS 6 (and custom icons before that) are now possible stock.

It's amazing how many people who would NEVER jailbreak to do this are now suddenly and totally interested in doing just because Apple itself finally offered it to them.

iPhone boring? No, users are just now getting started with what jailbreakers have been doing for years!
Thing is, while people who jailbroke their phones were able to gain things Apple’s walled garden didn’t allow, that also takes us back to the time when the catch phrase “it just works” actually applied. The more simple Apple kept the OS on the iPhone, the less bugs and glitches occurred and one could say with a straight face they preferred iPhones because “they just work”. One can’t say that anymore. The OS has more bugs and glitches than ever and you can see a direct correlation of this increase to the additional features added that were once only available via jailbreak.

Many people had legit reasons not to jailbreak. For one, the average consumer has no idea what it even means so of course they’ll be happy with the additions from Apple. Ask the average person about jail breaking their phone and they’ll look at you silly lol. But also, those in the know may not have wanted to void their warranty, may not have wanted to remain on certain versions of iOS, deal with tethered vs non-tethered options, etc. I used to jailbreak and then it just became more effort than it was worth to me.
 
I would really ARGUE how could you all it boring WITH the current line up?? MINI, regular 12, PRO and MAX??! Seriously!@
 
Thing is, while people who jailbroke their phones were able to gain things Apple’s walled garden didn’t allow, that also takes us back to the time when the catch phrase “it just works” actually applied. The more simple Apple kept the OS on the iPhone, the less bugs and glitches occurred and one could say with a straight face they preferred iPhones because “they just work”. One can’t say that anymore. The OS has more bugs and glitches than ever and you can see a direct correlation of this increase to the additional features added that were once only available via jailbreak.

Many people had legit reasons not to jailbreak. For one, the average consumer has no idea what it even means so of course they’ll be happy with the additions from Apple. Ask the average person about jail breaking their phone and they’ll look at you silly lol. But also, those in the know may not have wanted to void their warranty, may not have wanted to remain on certain versions of iOS, deal with tethered vs non-tethered options, etc. I used to jailbreak and then it just became more effort than it was worth to me.
The only disagreement I have with your comment is this: Warranty.

Yes, it 'voids' your warranty. But a simple restore (and update if that is forced on you) resets you to stock. Could Apple tell that you'd been jailbroken? There's no consensus on that. But whether they could or not, I have yet to hear of anyone denied warranty service because of a jailbreak after restoring their phone. I myself have done this for warranty service multiple times and was never denied.

Then several years ago it all changed. Apple no longer denies you warranty service because of a jailbreak - unless it is your jailbreak that is causing the problem. The most Apple will ask is for you to restore your device.

I took my jailbroken device in for warranty repair and all the genius did was restore it and take it into the back. I made no attempt to hide my jailbreak. Because of the issue the phone had I walked out with a new replacement. This was in 2015.

A lot of people have abandoned jailbreak for the same reason you did. Some because Apple had provided what jailbreaking used to. I left it on my 6s+ because so many of the tweaks I had became abandonware and I just decided that after five years I wanted something different.
 
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The OP is right to an extent, but we all have to be realistic that all we will get each year is refinements on the previous phone (faster processor, better cameras, screen etc). Every 2-3 years we get a slight design change, and that’s pretty much it. The next big improvement we need though is new battery technology that holds more capacity to last for 3-4 days at least without degrading over time.
100% disagree. The iPhone is innovating at a pace I’m comfortable with and I couldn’t have asked for more innovation.
 
Same thread, different year...

So it’s not just the op? :rolleyes:
 
The iphone is such an iconic product and for years it was always exciting when a new phone came out. Sure some years weren’t as interesting as others but it mostly always felt like a good upgrade even if you did it every year.

But now, all it seems to be every year is better camera, faster processor and (sometimes) better battery life. The last time a truly exciting thing happened IMO was the all screen design with the X. I have an iphone 12 but I’m not really sure what it does that my XS didn’t do (yeah i know there are things but i mean for my personal circumstances). It all just feels the same. I upgrade every 2-3 years on average, maybe i just need to hold on for them for longer.

Anyone else feel the same way?
Yes and no. I agree somehow, with the X having been something really exciting and nothing really exciting after this device. I also do feel like it has gotten more boring. It is only about battery life and camera somehow. Not even performance anymore as older iPhones still perform superb.

But, and this is subjective, I think with the 12 Mini they have done something refreshing this year. Yes, I own one and love it, still you now have some diversity again. A new small flagship, that hasn't been in many years. Plus 5G, which will become more interesting in the next years. But 4G in iPhone 5 has also been a highlight back then.

But hasn't it also always been like that. A new exciting line every 4-5 years. Just look at iPhone 6, 6s, 7, 8... X, XS, 11 Pro, 12 Pro. Maybe next year or the year after that something big is coming again.

+ I know a lot of iPhone users using their iPhones for years just because they can not because the newer devices are boring. And they don#t even want to update iOS. They just wanna use it like they bought it, the more new stuff integrated, the worth it is for them. We should get that us users here a a very minority in the world of smartphones. Most don't care about upgrades and updates.
 
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I could see how someone could think the iPhone could get boring if they upgraded every year. I am upgrading from my iPhone 6S+, so no way is the iPhone 12 boring this year to me. Pretty jazzed about the screen and cameras.
 
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I don't think the Iphone is getting boring, but I do think IOS is starting to get boring. There are things they should update from the ground up, like Apple Music, but they won't.
 
The iPhone is innovating…
Perhaps the word innovate needs to be defined?

According to dictionary.com innovate means 'to introduce something new; make changes in anything established', or 'to introduce (something new) for or as if for the first time'. Is Apple introducing something new every year? Or just making changes that improve what's already there?

If you're just making changes to something that already exists, that isn't innovation. Now, if you want to use the ARCHAIC definition, which means 'to alter' then…yeah…Apple is innovating every year by altering what already exists.

For the record, I don't think the iPhone is boring. I like the iPhone, I have several. But it's rare when Apple is actually innovating a model - especially when we consider the old 'S' model releases.

All of that said, I suppose you could argue that 'X' feature is new - even if very few people become interested in using 'X' feature.
 
I care what it does and not what it looks like. Actually, think some of the biggest changes has been recent. Again, what it does is what is important
 
They changed the formula for Coke a few decades ago after having gone with the same recipe for what was it...over a hundred years? It was so unpopular that they brought back the original and called it Coke Classsic. That one WAS so much more popular than the new one that they did away with the new one and went back to calling Coke, Coke.

As far as I'm concerned, I wish they wouldn't change ANYTHING at all. My dream would be that they would just come out with a phone that didn't have to subsequently go through months of bug fixing. Now to me, THAT phone would be worth its weight in gold.
 
Yeah, I don't use my iP11 very much, even prior to COVID lockdown.

I'd love a device that unifies the iPhone and iPP, like a 9" iPP Mini w/ full cellular functions to which I can link my Watch.

I suspect Apple hasn't yet allowed the Watch to link to the iPad via iPadOS because it'd significantly cannibalize iPhone sales.
 
The average customer upgrades their iPhone because (a) their battery life is terrible (b) their screen is cracked (c) their carrier offered them an attractive trade in deal.

And they use their brand new iPhone for the same ol things: messages, map directions, alarm clock, phone, email, social media and YouTube. Frankly if they got a new shell + battery with the innards of their old phone they wouldn’t know or care any better

Yep. More often than not, it's (a) for us. We did upgrade a XR to 12 due to (c). Absent the trade-in deal, the XR would've been used until battery craps out or some other issue developed.

Heck, I used the iPhone 7 for almost 4 years (randomly rebooting for its last year) and replaced it with the SE2 which is pretty much the same phone with fresh battery, faster innards, more LTE bands, dual SIM support and wireless charging.
 
As far as I'm concerned, I wish they wouldn't change ANYTHING at all. My dream would be that they would just come out with a phone that didn't have to subsequently go through months of bug fixing. Now to me, THAT phone would be worth its weight in gold.

You're talking more about the software, not the actual phone itself. I'm not sure the Iphone itself has any "bug fixes".
 
Thing is, while people who jailbroke their phones were able to gain things Apple’s walled garden didn’t allow, that also takes us back to the time when the catch phrase “it just works” actually applied. The more simple Apple kept the OS on the iPhone, the less bugs and glitches occurred and one could say with a straight face they preferred iPhones because “they just work”. One can’t say that anymore. The OS has more bugs and glitches than ever and you can see a direct correlation of this increase to the additional features added that were once only available via jailbreak.

Many people had legit reasons not to jailbreak. For one, the average consumer has no idea what it even means so of course they’ll be happy with the additions from Apple. Ask the average person about jail breaking their phone and they’ll look at you silly lol. But also, those in the know may not have wanted to void their warranty, may not have wanted to remain on certain versions of iOS, deal with tethered vs non-tethered options, etc. I used to jailbreak and then it just became more effort than it was worth to me.

I don’t think you void the Apple warranty. Doesn’t that only extend to hardware components and issues with the workmanship? If you find a warranty agreement from Apple that covers software please point me to it.
 
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