iPad Pro Is it just me that prefers macOS? I cannot justify owning an iPad Pro

[Abazigal]

I am not upset, I am frustrated, but only when I try to make the iPad be something it isn't, namely a computer. This analogy is not accurate. I have mentioned concrete reasons why the iPad is nothing but a toy for me. You can choose to accept them or ignore them. If you see your needs covered by an iPad, then fine. Everybody can do whatever they like.

That’s the thing.

There are the haters who yes, can’t get the ipad to work for them. And yet when they see other people who are able to use the ipad to get meaningful work done, rather than acknowledge and celebrate this, they instead choose to deny that this is happening, or try to dismiss what we do on our iPads as “not work”.

There’s stuff I choose to do on an ipad because a PC (including a Mac by extension) doesn’t suffice. Do you see my dismiss the PC as “just a toy”?

We each use the best tools available to do what we need to do. It’s that simple and straightforward.

 

[537635]

the exact same way Windows users did to them and the Mac back in the 90s.

Nobody is looking down at anybody or calling iPad "a toy". On the contrary, iPads are crazy capable in terms of hardware. More so than majority of laptops, especially business laptops. Yet software simply doesn't follow, except for some minor niche pro-stuff, where it is sufficient. For everybody else iPads simply cannot be anything more than content consuming devices.

Mac back in the 90s was simply different, not less capable. Big difference.

 

[petvas]

That’s the thing.

There are the haters who yes, can’t get the ipad to work for them. And yet when they see other people who are able to use the ipad to get meaningful work done, rather than acknowledge and celebrate this, they instead choose to deny that this is happening, or try to dismiss what we do on our iPads as “not work”.

There’s stuff I choose to do on an ipad because a PC (including a Mac by extension) doesn’t suffice. Do you see my dismiss the PC as “just a toy”?

We each use the best tools available to do what we need to do. It’s that simple and straightforward.

I guess you didn't understand a thing I wrote. Let me repeat it for you:
iPads are for me very nice toys. The reason is that they just don't offer me the functionality I require from my computers. As simple as that. I don't hate the iPad. Why would I hate such a lovely device? I am not 5 years old. I am just saying that the iPad is a great tablet, but nothing more than that. For me.

 

[Mainsail]

If you look at development and advancement as a platform, there is no doubt that the iPad has advanced much more rapidly than the Mac. The rate of change has been substantially faster for iPad Hardware and Software. Just look at the specs of the original 2010 iPad and capabilities of iOS 4 and compare them to the Air 3 (same $499 base price as the original iPad 9 years ago) and iPad OS.

Of course, the Mac was a much more mature and further along in its lifecycle in 2010, so I would expected the iPad to develop more rapidly as a platform. The question is: will the iPad continue to enjoy more rapid development and advancement than the Mac?

 

[537635]

This is true, but nevertheless 9 years is a very, very, very long time in terms of computer hardware and software. To say that iPad has made a long path in this time would be an overstatement in my opinion. Android and Windows made big strides, caught up with Apple and even surpassed it many aspects. Revolutionary stuff died in Apple with change of management in my opinion.

If you look at development and advancement as a platform, there is no doubt that the iPad has advanced much more rapidly than the Mac. The rate of change has been substantially faster for iPad Hardware and Software. Just look at the specs of the original 2010 iPad and capabilities of iOS 4 and compare them to the Air 3 (same $499 base price as the original iPad 9 years ago) and iPad OS.

Of course, the Mac was a much more mature and further along in its lifecycle in 2010, so I would expected the iPad to develop more rapidly as a platform. The question is: will the iPad continue to enjoy more rapid development and advancement than the Mac?

 

[OldCorpse]

Agreed. iOS development has not been fast compared to Android. In general I find Apple development slow in almost everything. Usually the excuse/explanation is that Apple wants to get it right.

 

[Mainsail]

Agreed. iOS development has not been fast compared to Android. In general I find Apple development slow in almost everything. Usually the excuse/explanation is that Apple wants to get it right.

And yet...... iPads are hands down the best tablets on the market.....so, Apple is taking the time to get it right.

 

[Hey Mac]

As a teacher, my main machine is my 27" iMac, hands down.

BUT when I'm at school, it's iPad Pro all the way.

- I can read stuff to the class while walking around (with a laptop I would have to sit)
- I can connect it to a projector and show a presentation, much like a laptop
- I can manage the register with a dedicated app
- I can do some work while at school, during recess and/or free hours, as long as it's not rocket science

.. but for long sessions of work... iMac all the way

So for me the iMac (home) + iPP (school) combo is perfect.
I used to bring a laptop to school, not anymore, and I would never go back.

I guess everybody has specific needs, so it depends on what works for you.
It's not a laptop vs. tablet war. Hopefully they'll just push each other to improve every year, so everyone's happy.

 

[MacDaddyPanda]

If you look at development and advancement as a platform, there is no doubt that the iPad has advanced much more rapidly than the Mac. The rate of change has been substantially faster for iPad Hardware and Software. Just look at the specs of the original 2010 iPad and capabilities of iOS 4 and compare them to the Air 3 (same $499 base price as the original iPad 9 years ago) and iPad OS.

Of course, the Mac was a much more mature and further along in its lifecycle in 2010, so I would expected the iPad to develop more rapidly as a platform. The question is: will the iPad continue to enjoy more rapid development and advancement than the Mac?

Isn't that mostly because the Ipad isn't as heavily reliant on outside Hardware development(i.e. Intel CPU's, Modems, etc.)?

 

[rui no onna]

Isn't that mostly because the Ipad isn't as heavily reliant on outside Hardware development(i.e. Intel CPU's, Modems, etc.)?

In fairness, 2014 (Apple A8X) is when Apple chipsets matched 2008 Core 2 Duo E8400 performance so there was some catching up to do. The amazing part is Apple accomplished it at a very low power envelope (comparatively speaking).

 

[Dave-Z]

In fairness, 2014 (Apple A8X) is when Apple chipsets matched 2008 Core 2 Duo E8400 performance so there was some catching up to do. The amazing part is Apple accomplished it at a very low power envelope (comparatively speaking).

Chip manufacturing came a long way from 2008 to 2014: ~40nm to ~20nm. That's a pretty big jump and no doubt allowed Apple to produce similar processing for less. Now there's absolutely no doubt that what Apple has done even since the A8X is remarkable. I think their chip design is a definite testament to what is actually possible... and makes Intel look bad.

Personally, I feel the processors are not the issue here though. Apple's A-Series has been more than capable for years. Apple's just taking their sweet time on the software front.

 

[ivybridge9463]

Just get a surfacepro!!!

 

[throAU]

Mac back in the 90s was simply different, not less capable. Big difference.

Actually, Mac in the 90s (especially prior to PPC) was an overpriced niche desktop publishing device and in terms of the OS (by the late 90s) was the laughing stock of the industry.

Sure the UI was nice, but no memory protection between applications, non-pre-emptive multitasking, hamstrung performance, limited hardware support, etc.

It had a niche market, but it was niche for a reason and largely based on being "first" in that industry.

Anyone with "real work" to do outside of desktop publishing or photoshop was using Sun, Next, or PC.

 

[537635]

Actually, Mac in the 90s (especially prior to PPC) was an overpriced niche desktop publishing device and in terms of the OS (by the late 90s) was the laughing stock of the industry.

Sure the UI was nice, but no memory protection between applications, non-pre-emptive multitasking, hamstrung performance, limited hardware support, etc.

It had a niche market, but it was niche for a reason and largely based on being "first" in that industry.

Anyone with "real work" to do outside of desktop publishing or photoshop was using Sun, Next, or PC.

To be honest I was using PCs at the time, but this is the impression I got from reading later about Macs in that period. You do seem to have much more experience so I guess I'll need to reevaluate my views. Thanks.

 

[throAU]

There's a reason Apple were doing so poorly in the mid 1990s that Microsoft bailed them out...