Is it obivious that the iPhone 5S will be better than the Samsung Galaxy S4?

[Vegastouch]

http://gizmodo.com/report-apples-next-iphone-coming-september-10th-1095267379/1095586014


Can Apple tackle Google with new 2013 iPhone?

Apple fans are squeaking with unbridled emotion after learning about the next iPhone's announcement date: September 10—two days earlier than last year. Will Apple's new toys be enough to stop the company's steady decline in sales and market share?

In terms of absolute numbers and perception, Android phones are winning the battle right now. The quality gap with Apple has disappeared and Google's operating system includes many great features that the iPhone doesn't have. The new Moto X—made by Motorola, now owned by Google—is getting raving reviews. Other phones made by Samsung and HTC are equally as good. The South Korean megacorporation seems to be winning the sales and market share battle—and showing no signs of slowing down.

Meanwhile, the new iPhone could be more of the same: Made of metal, plastic and glass, running these things called apps that you buy in a store without walls and come to you flying over the air. There are no new awesome features in the horizon, no clear and definitive advantage for the consumer. After all, all good smartphones are now more or less the same.

This time, rumorologists say, the new iPhone will come in colors, something that people can get already with Android phones like the Moto X, which can even be custom ordered in wood. The new iPhone may have a technology that will use your fingerprints to give you access to your phone instead of using a password—something that doesn't seem like a killer feature. And iOS 7, the new version of Apple's operating system, will have a revamped interface with new icons but the progress in functionality is not really significant.

While it is clear that Apple is in excellent financial shape and the loyalists will snatch the new phones like hungry zombies, the Cupertino company will have a very hard time convincing the rest of the world that their new phones offer any significant advantage over the more affordable competition.

 

[Pompiliu]

But that i'm not sure because it is almost impossible from Apple to introduce: a larger screen, wave gestures, eye controll, at least 12 MGP camera, finerprint sensor, etc in just one phone?

Let's hope Apple won't introduce these thing.
I don't want them.

What i want from the next iphone:
- better camera (larger sensor, faster lens, manual controls)
- wider camera lens (24mm or 28mm)
- 128GB storage
- smaller bezels
- a real flash, not a LED.

Couldn't care less about eye control and other stupid things...

 

[ChrisTX]

While I'm seriously considering The Galaxy Note 3, I'm also seriously considering the move back to the iPhone 5S. iOS 7 just looks fresh, and intuitive, and most importantly no bloat or carrier influence. I'm not going to rag on the GS4 too much, but for the week I had it, it was just extremely laggy for a high end 2013 phone. Especially one with 2 gigs of ram, and a quad core processor. My iPhone 4 runs smoother than the GS4. Too much bloatware, and the software truly isn't optimized for the hardware. Everyone, including myself gets sucked in by the Android hardware, but the software just isn't there. Wait for the next Nexus(or get a MotoX), or just wait for the 5S like I'm going to do.

 

[ucfgrad93]

Better is a subjective term. What is better for me may not be better for someone else.

 

[Dmunjal]

While I'm seriously considering The Galaxy Note 3, I'm also seriously considering the move back to the iPhone 5S. iOS 7 just looks fresh, and intuitive, and most importantly no bloat or carrier influence. I'm not going to rag on the GS4 too much, but for the week I had it, it was just extremely laggy for a high end 2013 phone. Especially one with 2 gigs of ram, and a quad core processor. My iPhone 4 runs smoother than the GS4. Too much bloatware, and the software truly isn't optimized for the hardware. Everyone, including myself gets sucked in by the Android hardware, but the software just isn't there. Wait for the next Nexus(or get a MotoX), or just wait for the 5S like I'm going to do.

Have you tried the Google Edition of the S4? Best of both worlds. Great hardware, no carrier or TW bloat.

 

[solarguy17]

Above post couldn't have said it better. The Q3 figures will be eye opening in the smartphone race. Samsung and HTC will annihilate the Iphone in sales. My only question is why Apple is so slow to react. They better figure out that they can't actually build an anti-gravity machine, and just design a competitive phone.

Not true.
All Samsung phones combined worldwide might outsell the new iPhone 5S.
All HTC phones combined worldwide might outsell the new iPhone 5S.

But any single phone, S4, S4Mini, S4Active, S4etc all being separate phone models won't outsell the iPhone 5S. That's a simple fact. The only phone to outsell the previous generation iPhone with a year if the launch of the previous iPhone is the new version of the iPhone. That's a simple fact as well.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

But any single phone, S4, S4Mini, S4Active, S4etc all being separate phone models won't outsell the iPhone 5S. That's a simple fact. The only phone to outsell the previous generation iPhone with a year if the launch of the previous iPhone is the new version of the iPhone. That's a simple fact as well.

Maybe the Galaxy S line should start releasing in the same time as the iPhone.

Also if you add the number of S3 still selling along with the S4. That means the Galaxy S line has been on top.

Samsung Galaxy S4 Outsells Apple iPhone 5 At Verizon, Sprint And T-Mobile Stores In May

 

[Virginaustralia]

Yeah its gonna be better but you know samsung, theyll just swap the two letters around and come out with an S5

 

[Technarchy]

http://gizmodo.com/report-apples-next-iphone-coming-september-10th-1095267379/1095586014


Can Apple tackle Google with new 2013 iPhone?

Apple fans are squeaking with unbridled emotion after learning about the next iPhone's announcement date: September 10—two days earlier than last year. Will Apple's new toys be enough to stop the company's steady decline in sales and market share?

In terms of absolute numbers and perception, Android phones are winning the battle right now. The quality gap with Apple has disappeared and Google's operating system includes many great features that the iPhone doesn't have. The new Moto X—made by Motorola, now owned by Google—is getting raving reviews. Other phones made by Samsung and HTC are equally as good. The South Korean megacorporation seems to be winning the sales and market share battle—and showing no signs of slowing down.

Meanwhile, the new iPhone could be more of the same: Made of metal, plastic and glass, running these things called apps that you buy in a store without walls and come to you flying over the air. There are no new awesome features in the horizon, no clear and definitive advantage for the consumer. After all, all good smartphones are now more or less the same.

This time, rumorologists say, the new iPhone will come in colors, something that people can get already with Android phones like the Moto X, which can even be custom ordered in wood. The new iPhone may have a technology that will use your fingerprints to give you access to your phone instead of using a password—something that doesn't seem like a killer feature. And iOS 7, the new version of Apple's operating system, will have a revamped interface with new icons but the progress in functionality is not really significant.

While it is clear that Apple is in excellent financial shape and the loyalists will snatch the new phones like hungry zombies, the Cupertino company will have a very hard time convincing the rest of the world that their new phones offer any significant advantage over the more affordable competition.

Reminds of the 4S launch. It was shown and all the internet experts predicted it was going to be Apple's first failure and it had no prayer of competing against the "more advanced" android phones...

4S blew the doors off sales figures and became Apple's biggest selling phone yet. No big screen, no LTE, no quad core, paltry RAM.

Also:

The new Moto X—made by Motorola, now owned by Google—is getting raving reviews

All the reviews I've read have been ho hum, and far from raving.

HTC has dissolved nearly all of it's credibility by abandoning its products in under a year. They are falling apart at the seams.

Nexus phones takes months to sell what Apple does in a weekend.

About the only company putting up any type of fight is Samsung. The GS4 and Note 3 will be Android's bulwark going into Q3 and Q4, and at the end of the day it's a safe bet to say Apple 5C and 5S will make up 50% of all smartphone activations and sales on the major American carriers.

The quarterly call on Verizon, AT&T and Sprint are always the Apple show, and android is barely mentioned at all, if ever.

 

[Fanaticalism]

Let's hope Apple won't introduce these thing.
I don't want them.

What i want from the next iphone:
- better camera (larger sensor, faster lens, manual controls)
- wider camera lens (24mm or 28mm)
- 128GB storage
- smaller bezels
- a real flash, not a LED.

Couldn't care less about eye control and other stupid things...

They'll give it to you, but it'll cost you $500!

 

[Technarchy]

They'll give it to you, but it'll cost you $500!

And there is a huge perk with my GS4.

Went to best buy and got an Ultra 32GB Micro SD, and it cost me $35.

Hopefully Samsung doesn't cave to competitive pressure and remove the SD card slot for the GS5.

 

[thehustleman]

I doubt it will be better.


IPhone has quite a bit of catching up to do to android especially skinned android

 

[Vegastouch]

Reminds of the 4S launch. It was shown and all the internet experts predicted it was going to be Apple's first failure and it had no prayer of competing against the "more advanced" android phones...

4S blew the doors off sales figures and became Apple's biggest selling phone yet. No big screen, no LTE, no quad core, paltry RAM.

Im not trying to show or say it will be a failure. It wont be and we all know that but today, not two years ago when the 4s came out, it is concerning that Apple isnt doing anything innovative in the slow time it takes them to put out a new product while Android and other phones continue to come out and are taking huge chunks of marketshare away.

Apple investors are concerned about this too.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Hopefully Samsung doesn't cave to competitive pressure and remove the SD card slot for the GS5.

I think Samsung already knows they can't compete with the way Apple does things. Samsung has to keep playing it's own game, which is why they are highly successful in the smartphone market now.

Half the users of Galaxy line phones, would have probably went with the iPhone or another brand if Samsung decided to axe SD slot storage and maybe even battery access. Can also say the same if Samsung didn't quickly go big with screen sizes.

 

[Technarchy]

Im not trying to show or say it will be a failure. It wont be and we all know that but today, not two years ago when the 4s came out, it is concerning that Apple isnt doing anything innovative in the slow time it takes them to put out a new product while Android and other phones continue to come out and are taking huge chunks of marketshare away.

Apple investors are concerned about this too.

I don't disagree to an extent.

Apple could have been doing a lot more with iOS, and thankfully iOS7 at least closes the gap a bit when compared to Windows Phone and Android's more "modern" features

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I think Samsung already knows they can't compete with the way Apple does things. Samsung has to keep playing it's own game, which is why they are highly successful in the smartphone market now.

Half the users of Galaxy line phones, would have probably went with the iPhone or another brand if Samsung decided to axe SD slot storage and maybe even battery access. Can also say the same if Samsung didn't quickly go big with screen sizes.

It's not Apple I'm concerned with in this case, but other android makers. Outside of Samsung, its getting really hard to find a flagship device with an SD card slot and removable battery.

I hope Samsung realizes it's in the android lead and feels no need at all to follow the path of other android makers and ditch the removeable battery and SD card slot.

 

[Dmunjal]

I don't disagree to an extent.

Apple could have been doing a lot more with iOS, and thankfully iOS7 at least closes the gap a bit when compared to Windows Phone and Android's more "modern" features.

Really? In IOS 7, I still can't reply to an email with an attachment. Very embarrassing for a mobile OS in 2013. No wonder I see so many iPhone users pull out a laptop to do something so basic.

 

[IGregory]

The thing that really annoys me about apple is the fact that they have the technology to compete with the likes of the S4 now but they always insist on phasing it in over a few generations of the iPhone to make more money. Don't get me wrong from a business point of view its great but I'm getting a little bored of it now.

It always amazes me how people want more and more from their smartphones, yet they use less than 20% of the phones capabilities.

 

[Vegastouch]

I don't disagree to an extent.

Apple could have been doing a lot more with iOS, and thankfully iOS7 at least closes the gap a bit when compared to Windows Phone and Android's more "modern" features

I think that is yet to be seen and we arent hearing anything extrodinary. Still no mention of NFC, no Wallet, but you get fingerprint recognition that Microsoft has had for years now, they just dont use it with their phones. What if you cut your finger that is the recognizable one and you cant get into your phone?...lol

Still will have the same 2007 face and aledgedly the same 4" small screen. Unless they are doing a great job of keeping the info quiet and it will get a bigger screen. That would be their biggest addition imo. 4.5" at the very least is needed.

 

[Technarchy]

Really? In IOS 7, I still can't reply to an email with an attachment. Very embarrassing for a mobile OS in 2013. No wonder I see so many iPhone users pull out a laptop to do something so basic.

I share all my work drafted in iWork on the iPad as email attachments daily. Just about every piece of content creation done in iOS can be shared as an attachment.

And since I rarely carry a laptop, just an iPad and iPhone most of the time, you must work with few iOS savvy people.

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I think that is yet to be seen and we arent hearing anything extrodinary. Still no mention of NFC, no Wallet, but you get fingerprint recognition that Microsoft has had for years now, they just dont use it with their phones. What if you cut your finger that is the recognizable one and you cant get into your phone?...lol

Still will have the same 2007 face and aledgedly the same 4" small screen. Unless they are doing a great job of keeping the info quiet and it will get a bigger screen. That would be their biggest addition imo. 4.5" at the very least is needed.

NFC and wallet are hardly extraordinary features. Not to me at least. About as lame as fingerprint sensors, and face unlock IMHO.

The GS4 sitting next to me now is not there because of NFC and Wallet, that's for sure. Might be big news to you, but I don't give a rat's ass either way.

I agree the 4" screen that was just longer than the 4S was a mistake on Apple's part. They could have done much better with designing the iPhone 5 in general.

 

[ski1ski1]

Really? In IOS 7, I still can't reply to an email with an attachment. Very embarrassing for a mobile OS in 2013. No wonder I see so many iPhone users pull out a laptop to do something so basic.

Sorry, but you are wrong. Since iOS 6, you can add an attachment on replies or within any email. It's one of the options in the copy/paste popup. Just press anywhere in the email for a few seconds. In the paste popup box, click on the right arrow a couple of times, and you will find your insert photo/video option.

 

[Vegastouch]

I share all my work drafted in iWork on the iPad as email attachments daily. Just about every piece of content creation done in iOS can be shared as an attachment.

And since I rarely carry a laptop, just an iPad and iPhone most of the time, you must work with few iOS savvy people.

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NFC and wallet are hardly extraordinary features. Not to me at least. About as lame as fingerprint sensors, and face unlock IMHO.

The GS4 sitting next to me now is not there because of NFC and Wallet, that's for sure. Might be big news to you, but I don't give a rat's ass either way.

I agree the 4" screen that was just longer than the 4S was a mistake on Apple's part. They could have done much better with designing the iPhone 5 in general.

I was just giving a few examples. It also wont have the camera features the GS4 has, the gestures and you still wont be able to attach things to an email, use a different keyboard and a different on its own browser, wont be able to share things close to the way Android does.

I could go on but you get my point. iOS is way behind imo as is the physical phone being undersized.

So, why is the GS4 sitting next to you?

 

[Dmunjal]

I share all my work drafted in iWork on the iPad as email attachments daily. Just about every piece of content creation done in iOS can be shared as an attachment.

And since I rarely carry a laptop, just an iPad and iPhone most of the time, you must work with few iOS savvy people.

So if someone asks me for a file that I created, how do I reply to that email with an attachment? How about if the email request copied a few others who need to see it as well? Something that happens many times a day in a normal corporate job. How do I do this? Btw, it's trivial on Android and Microsoft, even BlackBerry.

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Sorry, but you are wrong. Since iOS 6, you can add an attachment on replies or within any email. It's one of the options in the copy/paste popup. Just press anywhere in the email for a few seconds. In the paste popup box, click on the right arrow a couple of times, and you will find your insert photo/video option.

Exactly. Just photos and videos. What about other files? You know, stuff for work.

 

[Assault]

Not true.
All Samsung phones combined worldwide might outsell the new iPhone 5S.
All HTC phones combined worldwide might outsell the new iPhone 5S.

But any single phone, S4, S4Mini, S4Active, S4etc all being separate phone models won't outsell the iPhone 5S. That's a simple fact. The only phone to outsell the previous generation iPhone with a year if the launch of the previous iPhone is the new version of the iPhone. That's a simple fact as well.

Good to see Apple propagandizing still lives. If only you had actual facts for this statement, it would be believable. Unfortunately, Apple is the only entity that knows how many of a single version of an iPhone they sell, and they don't advertise those numbers. Facts can be a real PIA, huh?

 

[Technarchy]

So if someone asks me for a file that I created, how do I reply to that email with an attachment? How about if the email request copied a few others who need to see it as well? Something that happens many times a day in a normal corporate job. How do I do this? Btw, it's trivial on Android and Microsoft, even BlackBerry.

I go through this daily, and send my work daily by simply emailing it as an attachment to the appropriate recipients. It really isn't that hard.

Keeping apps silo'ed is part of why iOS is corporate friendly without resorting to crappy apps like Good.

 

[Dmunjal]

I go through this daily, and send my work daily by simply emailing it as an attachment to the appropriate recipients. It really isn't that hard.

Keeping apps silo'ed is part of why iOS is corporate friendly without resorting to crappy apps like Good.

So you're telling me that you cut and paste all the recipients and start a NEW email string to accomplish what should be a simple reply to all? Not very professional as the trail is lost. And it is harder and requires multiple steps compared to Android or Microsoft. Why excuse it?

Lack of IPC between apps is a limitation and should be supported in any modern OS. OSX does it just fine and so does every other OS used in corporate environments.