Is Mountain Lion faster than Lion ?

[Death-T]

It seems my Internet is quicker after the upgrade, but that may be due to some other reason such as the clean install (or maybe I've fallen to placebo). I've been using a range extender on the other side of my house connecting to not-so-great Knology Wi-Fi. I want to say that the overall experience is smoother than Lion, but I'm not sure I recognize any areas where the OS is noticeably faster. To be honest, I wouldn't have bothered with Mountain Lion (at least not right away) if it weren't for Airplay, Notes/Reminders sync, and notifications. Mountain Lion definitely has more to offer if you've got an iPhone and an Apple TV.

 

[BlackMangoTree]

MacMini i5 2.5ghz 8gb Ram Mountain Lion is clearly superior to Lion is overall responsiveness everything is just so much smoother the dreaded beach ball is virtually no more. Excellent upgrade.

 

[Simplicated]

I do think boot time is significantly faster. Everything else seems to be the same though.

 

[stooovie]

It does seem to be a little snappier even after just an upgrade (which is nice because 10.X.0 releases are notoriously slow and buggy). But my booting hangs for about 20 seconds on a pure white screen with mouse cursor just before the wallpaper comes in. Reinstalling or permissions didn't fix this.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Yes, see this thread for benchmarks...If people say they can notice a difference, they're dreaming.

If people think benchmarks are an accurate representation of end-user experience in real-world situations, they're dreaming.

Edit: I just actually checked out the link to the benchmarks and nothing at all in those results really has anything to do with how fluidly a user interface would be rendered.

Also, even if those "benchmarks" were an indication of raw graphics potential of a system (they aren't) they completely ignore the massive improvements which could be observed by optimisation of code which is rendering the desktop.

 

[50548]

I do think boot time is significantly faster. Everything else seems to be the same though.

So why upgrade again? I am still waiting for a comprehensive answer that tells me WHAT ML offers apart from boring iOS integration.

 

[adztaylor]

So why upgrade again? I am still waiting for a comprehensive answer that tells me WHAT ML offers apart from boring iOS integration.

If you're still waiting for an answer then it probably isn't worth your while to upgrade.

 

[psykick5]

So why upgrade again? I am still waiting for a comprehensive answer that tells me WHAT ML offers apart from boring iOS integration.

It's faster.
Airplay.
It's faster.

 

[50548]

If you're still waiting for an answer then it probably isn't worth your while to upgrade.

Does this mean ML has absolutely nothing relevant apart from iOS features?

 

[adztaylor]

Does this mean ML has absolutely nothing relevant apart from iOS features?

People have different needs/wants and what you call "relevant" might not be for someone else and vice versa. Just because you don't find the new features in ML relevant it does not mean other people find uses for them.

It has been well documented what the features are of ML on these forums, the Apple and countless other websites I'm sure you frequent so if you cannot find any reason to upgrade then don't. It is that simple.

 

[soft-touch]

Mountain Lion is faster on my Macbook Pro 2009 version. It is faster than Snow Leopard and Lion. I was skeptical initially about installing due to experience with Lion. But I was happy installing ML.

 

[UKBeast]

So why upgrade again? I am still waiting for a comprehensive answer that tells me WHAT ML offers apart from boring iOS integration.

it is faster, boots up faster, safari is faster, window operations faster, programs start up faster. It is a performance optimized and tweaked Lion.

Think it like iphone 4 and iphone 4s, iphone 3g and iphone 3gs, os x leopard and snow leopard.

 

[50548]

it is faster, boots up faster, safari is faster, window operations faster, programs start up faster. It is a performance optimized and tweaked Lion.

Think it like iphone 4 and iphone 4s, iphone 3g and iphone 3gs, os x leopard and snow leopard.

Thanks for this. Do you think such speed enhancements will be felt also in higher-end machines such as mine?

 

[UKBeast]

Thanks for this. Do you think such speed enhancements will be felt also in higher-end machines such as mine?

regarding my system in my signature I can really feel improvement but yours is much powerful than mine so difference you will get can be negligible.

it's got better integration with iCloud if you are in to apple ecosystem like having iPhone or iPod it would be good investment for you. generally mountain lion is focused on a few things,

1 tweaking system performance

2 a bit more makeup to lion

3 better integration with iCloud and iOS

it will not bring fundemantel changes over lion especially for a desktop user who is not into iOS devices.

apple is killing desktop os mentality, every time it is looking more like an iOS mobile system than a desktop system.

probably next os will bring fundamental changes and it will be more iOS influenced because that's what they make money.

now mac os feels like a home entertainment os more than a productivity oriented system

 

[duyvan82]

for those of you who've got Mountain Lion GM installed, how is scrolling in Facebook and the Mac App Store?
It is ridiculously slow on my late 2009 iMac 27" (with 16GB of RAM), everything else is fine though...

 

[austinguy23]

I'm surprised a tech blog like Arstechnica or Anandtech hasn't benchmarked various functions between Lion and ML (GM) on machines with identical configurations and fresh installations. It would be very interesting to see the results.

 

[RMXO]

ML seems way snappier than Lion so far for me.

 

[Hoochan54]

Question about creating a Bootable version of OSX 10.8

I am seeing lots of people talking about creating a bootable version of the new OSX when it is officially released but as a new mac user i'm unsure of the purpose of a bootable copy. Is it to keep in case of computer failure where it has to be reformatted or something else? Thanks for any help you can give.

 

[Goldfinger]

ML seems much smoother on my Early 2011 base 13MBP with 8GB RAM+SSD. Also, and much more important, battery life seems to be much improved. It's much closer to what Snow Leopard gave me in battery life. I noticed a huge drop in battery life after upgrading to Lion.
I also did a simple upgrade, no clean install. Zero issues.

I can't wait for the release and put it on my Mac Pro as well. (I always use the MBP as my test bed before upgrading my Mac Pro production machine).

 

[east85]

I did an install over 10.7.4 on this MacBook (upgraded with what you see in the signature):

http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...-2.4-aluminum-13-late-2008-unibody-specs.html

Everything went very smooth. Navigation between programs, boot time, and the responsiveness within Safari seem to have been improved drastically over 10.7.4. None of the bugs that I had encountered while on 10.7.4 have occurred. In fact, I haven't run into any imperfections yet.

 

[andy8]

I am seeing lots of people talking about creating a bootable version of the new OSX when it is officially released but as a new mac user i'm unsure of the purpose of a bootable copy. Is it to keep in case of computer failure where it has to be reformatted or something else? Thanks for any help you can give.

A bootable copy helps for clean install, disk verification/repair and repairing of permissions - 3 of the most common needs for a Bootable disk. A clean install certainly requires a bootable disk while the other 2 (disk verification/repair & fixing permissions) does the job well while booted from a bootable disk rather than running the activities from the internal drive itself via Disk Utility. In other words, booting from a disk to perform them; results in the best maintenance result.

Hope that helps.

 

[Simplicated]

So why upgrade again? I am still waiting for a comprehensive answer that tells me WHAT ML offers apart from boring iOS integration.

I am upgrading because:
- I'll be forced to use ML to develop for iOS 6 soon
- Proper Exposé is back
- Save As and prompt to save changes are back

That's all really. I think proper Exposé alone is worth the upgrade.

 

[50548]

I did an install over 10.7.4 on this MacBook (upgraded with what you see in the signature):

http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...-2.4-aluminum-13-late-2008-unibody-specs.html

Everything went very smooth. Navigation between programs, boot time, and the responsiveness within Safari seem to have been improved drastically over 10.7.4. None of the bugs that I had encountered while on 10.7.4 have occurred. In fact, I haven't run into any imperfections yet.

Can anyone test whether the disappearing mouse cursor bug (when you play a movie full screen on iTunes or DVD Player) still exists in ML? Thanks!

 

[Pock]

A bootable copy helps for clean install, disk verification/repair and repairing of permissions - 3 of the most common needs for a Bootable disk. A clean install certainly requires a bootable disk while the other 2 (disk verification/repair & fixing permissions) does the job well while booted from a bootable disk rather than running the activities from the internal drive itself via Disk Utility. In other words, booting from a disk to perform them; results in the best maintenance result.

Hope that helps.

A clean install does not require a bootable disk, as disk utility can be accessed from the recovery partition.

Someone correct if I'm wrong!

 

[andy8]

A clean install does not require a bootable disk, as disk utility can be accessed from the recovery partition.

Someone correct if I'm wrong!

You are right. I missed this point. Thank you for that.