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x-evil-x

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ive had iPhones since 2008 and was looking forward to the x model but some things are pushing me to try android for a year to see what it's like.
First the pricing. I have a 7+ 128 and I would only get the 999 version which is 64 gig which I feel like Apple did intentionally for people knowing they'd will go the 150$ more 256 version which doesn't sit with me well.
The notch with video and games just seems odd to me. It's a huge deal to me if there's a notch with games. Movies. Etc... it's not refined in the os "yet".
I'm ok with face id but why make you swipe up. Another thing to do. At least give the option.
Is now a good time to try a note for a year and ride this out? I'm sure next year pricing and storage plans plus the apps updated for the notch video/games will be a better experience.
Only issue is I have an Apple watch too. Possibly would work with an android phone considering it has its own cell connection?
Also, upgrade time window if released in November then next year you won't be eligible fil November missing the normal September window. I feel like Apple is throwing so many negatives towards its loyal people.
Kinda torn here
 

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I wouldn't expect pricing to improve next year, and you would not be able to use an apple watch with android. Other than those negatives, if you are interested in trying out android then go for it.
 
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AE14

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I tried android and liked it. If I was going to switch back the LG V30 grabbed my attention and I’d be curious about the Pixel XL 2as well
 
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BoxerGT2.5

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It all boils down to how invested one is in a given ecosystem. I use to bounce back and forth between the two, now I just stick with iPhone. I'd really love to get a note and used to get one every year, but the switching just got so tedious between android and apple.
 

ANTAWNM26

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Never is a good time to try Android.

Geez. Look if you like technology it is always a good time to try different things. I go back and forth and know what I like and don't like due to that. I will say if android can catch up to iMessage it will be neck and neck no doubt for me that is. I'm speaking about me and not trying to say what my experience is the actual picture
 

x-evil-x

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Is it for sure you can't use the new Apple Watch without an iPhone?
I really hate how Apple priced the 64-256 making the 128gig people pushed into compromising or spending more money which they hope. Doesn't sit with me well at all
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It all boils down to how invested one is in a given ecosystem. I use to bounce back and forth between the two, now I just stick with iPhone. I'd really love to get a note and used to get one every year, but the switching just got so tedious between android and apple.
MacBook Pro (new model), iPad mini, Apple Watch, numerous cables and stands over house made for Apple stuff. It won't be easy....
 

dulaney22

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The best. Couldn't get past the cutout and price and made the mistake off comparing the Galaxy S8 Plus to 7 plus. Well a week later and dang I love this phone.
 

dallas112678

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I'm just going to copy and paste what I wrote in another thread about the Note 8...


"I've only bought Apple phones up to this point, starting with the 3g, the 4, the 5, and now the 7+. The thing is, the 7+ is just boring, and it's not because of the hardware, it's because iOS largely looks and feels the same as it always has. Moving around in my iPhone 5 started slowing down, and things like typing wasn't as quick, but all my apps still ran just as well on the 5 as they do on my 7+. Basically, it made me actually ask "why the hell did I just pay $1000 for the 7+"?

What's new about the iPhone 8? Bezel-less screen, OLED, and wireless charging. Things that Samsung have already had, and in the case of OLED, Samsung has had it for a very long time. For the software, iOS will again feel the same with a few new features, but most of the interesting features are only for iPad. Whereas Android is so customizable with how you phone looks and feels it's crazy. Seriously, just check out homescreen setups on youtube to see how you can truly make your phone look different from every other phone, whereas that isn't the case with iOS.

Also, true multitasking is a big deal for me, having youtube on while surfing the internet is awesome, and something you can't do with iOS. Not to mention all of the other features of android, including the additional features that Samsung has added (multi-tasking is much more powerful on Samsung phones). For those who are still under the impression that Samsung phones are a lag fest because of their software, that's not the case anymore so you can drop that narrative. I've seen plenty of S8's and S8+'s run smooth as butter, with maybe a hiccup every once in a blue moon. My iPhone 7+ has a hiccup once every blue moon as well. From all reports, the UI on the Note 8 has been even further optimized to eliminate those hiccups. So again, you can stop spreading the lagfest narrative of 3 years ago.

Then there's the S-Pen. I used to be one of those types who thought it was just a gimmick, and simply replaced your finger with a pen, and only really helpful if you're an artist. That's actually what Apple would like you to think if you go back to when Steve Jobs was knocking it on stage. Then I realized how much I'd use it as an engineer. I'm always brainstorming new concepts and sketching out ideas to quickly see if they have merit, drawing free body diagrams, or even circuit schematics. I'd always find myself looking for a piece of paper and pen when I had an idea pop into my head only to see that there was nothing around. That's all solved with the S-Pen, especially since it's so quick that you can just write with the screen off and not have to go unlock the phone, open an app, and then start typing (like you would with an iPhone).

That's not it though, like I said, the pen doesn't simply replace your finger, it makes a lot of common tasks more efficient. Something simple like copying text, just hold the button on the pen and drag the across the text. With my iPhone, half the time I first try to select something, it doesn't get the right letter, then I have to spread the corners of the selecting tool to my start and end points of what I want selected. Sounds simple, but the Pen takes a tiny pain in the a** and makes it super convenient, add all of those tiny pain in the a**'s over the course of two years and that's a lot of time and headaches saved.

What about other things? As someone who travels and encounters websites in foreign languages, just hover the pen over the sentence you want translated and it does it then and there. Otherwise, you have to go through that tiny pain in the a** of selecting and copying the text, minimize the app, find and open google translate, then paste to finally see the translation. One step instead of 5-6 steps.

That's not even mentioning the easy creation of gifs, writing things on screenshots, etc... Basically, if you learn everything about the S-Pen and use all of the features it provides, it's a game changer. If you don't, at the very least it makes common tasks that everyone does at some point that much more convenient/faster.

Oh, and about cost. Yes, the note 8 unlocked goes for $930. The thing is, Samsung will let me trade my 5 year old iphone 5 in for $200. Now I'm only paying $730, good luck getting that type of deal from Apple. For pre-ordering, I also got a 128GB SD card and a fast wireless charger for free (worth ~$180). Even if you don't have any old phone to trade in, you are getting way more bang for your buck with the Note 8. Then, of course, 2 months down the road Samsung will be offering plenty of deals so you can get it for less, whereas the iPhone 8 will be just as expensive as it always was all the way up to the day the iPhone 9 is announced.

With all of that being said, for me, it's pretty obvious that the Note 8 is the way to go, and it's not even close."

I wrote this days ago, and after the unveiling of the X, my thoughts haven't changed at all.
 
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x-evil-x

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I was going to try apple now that they are bringing out an oled display. Now im undecided. Apple really lost me with these animated emojis. Seriously thats a selling point of a phone? 2 colors?
I don't mind the colors one bit I like the look of the phone a lot with the glass back and all. animoji is stupid to me. I want real goddamn innovation here. Not just catching up to the competition with screen technology and screen size. I also want better designed interface with that notch they are embracing. It seems like an afterthought.
 

fatalogic

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I switched from Android to IOS when the 7+ came out and I'd say it depends on how heavily you use apple services. I think the only thing holding me back from going back is Imessage and the apple watch. The Iphone also does video better than the android phones I've used. On the android side I miss the notification center and google assistant. If you have the cash and don't mind dealing with switching your services over it's always nice to give the competition a try. Then you will see they aren't as different as most fanboys will tell you.
 

KGB7

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If you want an OS that needs constant maintenance, than Android is for you.
If you want a phone with limited support and short life span do to lack of long term support; Android is for you.

It's always a good time to try Android.
 

cave1238

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Feb 20, 2012
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I'm just going to copy and paste what I wrote in another thread about the Note 8...


"I've only bought Apple phones up to this point, starting with the 3g, the 4, the 5, and now the 7+. The thing is, the 7+ is just boring, and it's not because of the hardware, it's because iOS largely looks and feels the same as it always has. Moving around in my iPhone 5 started slowing down, and things like typing wasn't as quick, but all my apps still ran just as well on the 5 as they do on my 7+. Basically, it made me actually ask "why the hell did I just pay $1000 for the 7+"?

What's new about the iPhone 8? Bezel-less screen, OLED, and wireless charging. Things that Samsung have already had, and in the case of OLED, Samsung has had it for a very long time. For the software, iOS will again feel the same with a few new features, but most of the interesting features are only for iPad. Whereas Android is so customizable with how you phone looks and feels it's crazy. Seriously, just check out homescreen setups on youtube to see how you can truly make your phone look different from every other phone, whereas that isn't the case with iOS.

Also, true multitasking is a big deal for me, having youtube on while surfing the internet is awesome, and something you can't do with iOS. Not to mention all of the other features of android, including the additional features that Samsung has added (multi-tasking is much more powerful on Samsung phones). For those who are still under the impression that Samsung phones are a lag fest because of their software, that's not the case anymore so you can drop that narrative. I've seen plenty of S8's and S8+'s run smooth as butter, with maybe a hiccup every once in a blue moon. My iPhone 7+ has a hiccup once every blue moon as well. From all reports, the UI on the Note 8 has been even further optimized to eliminate those hiccups. So again, you can stop spreading the lagfest narrative of 3 years ago.

Then there's the S-Pen. I used to be one of those types who thought it was just a gimmick, and simply replaced your finger with a pen, and only really helpful if you're an artist. That's actually what Apple would like you to think if you go back to when Steve Jobs was knocking it on stage. Then I realized how much I'd use it as an engineer. I'm always brainstorming new concepts and sketching out ideas to quickly see if they have merit, drawing free body diagrams, or even circuit schematics. I'd always find myself looking for a piece of paper and pen when I had an idea pop into my head only to see that there was nothing around. That's all solved with the S-Pen, especially since it's so quick that you can just write with the screen off and not have to go unlock the phone, open an app, and then start typing (like you would with an iPhone).

That's not it though, like I said, the pen doesn't simply replace your finger, it makes a lot of common tasks more efficient. Something simple like copying text, just hold the button on the pen and drag the across the text. With my iPhone, half the time I first try to select something, it doesn't get the right letter, then I have to spread the corners of the selecting tool to my start and end points of what I want selected. Sounds simple, but the Pen takes a tiny pain in the a** and makes it super convenient, add all of those tiny pain in the a**'s over the course of two years and that's a lot of time and headaches saved.

What about other things? As someone who travels and encounters websites in foreign languages, just hover the pen over the sentence you want translated and it does it then and there. Otherwise, you have to go through that tiny pain in the a** of selecting and copying the text, minimize the app, find and open google translate, then paste to finally see the translation. One step instead of 5-6 steps.

That's not even mentioning the easy creation of gifs, writing things on screenshots, etc... Basically, if you learn everything about the S-Pen and use all of the features it provides, it's a game changer. If you don't, at the very least it makes common tasks that everyone does at some point that much more convenient/faster.

Oh, and about cost. Yes, the note 8 unlocked goes for $930. The thing is, Samsung will let me trade my 5 year old iphone 5 in for $200. Now I'm only paying $730, good luck getting that type of deal from Apple. For pre-ordering, I also got a 128GB SD card and a fast wireless charger for free (worth ~$180). Even if you don't have any old phone to trade in, you are getting way more bang for your buck with the Note 8. Then, of course, 2 months down the road Samsung will be offering plenty of deals so you can get it for less, whereas the iPhone 8 will be just as expensive as it always was all the way up to the day the iPhone 9 is announced.

With all of that being said, for me, it's pretty obvious that the Note 8 is the way to go, and it's not even close."

I wrote this days ago, and after the unveiling of the X, my thoughts haven't changed at all.

Damn good write up, I believe it’s helped me make my decision!!
 

jsmith189

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Jan 12, 2014
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You'll be back, but if it's what you wanna do, feel free. My only recommendation is to get stock Android, ie the Pixel.
 
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