Is really Android a competitive iOS alternative?

[Radon87000]

So how can something be superior and inferior at the same time? Apple tunes their software for how people use it. If your main use of android is deleting apps, you've got me. But for how people use iOS, 3dt wins. As far as your "facts" we can turn this into another p-------- contest as their clearly isn't enough of them already.

Just like how Android and iOS are both superior and inferior to each other.Android wins in customisation and productivity.iOS wins in integration and apps.3D Touch is good for quickly jumping into a particular section of an app if it supports it.Long press works everywhere.

Can you use 3D Touch to jump into mobile settings to clean cache?
Can you use 3D Touch to open the WiFi settings directly in a drop out menu?
Can you use 3D Touch to change wallpaper instantly?
Can you use 3d Touch to edit widgets in just 2 taps?
Can you use 3D Touch right on the icon to directly open bookmarks on other browsers?
Can you edit the 3D Touch functions to change the feature you want activated when you use it?(Long press for Google search OR S Finder)
Can you assign gestures on iOS?

I could make a similar list of other features for how iOS is better than Android but 3D Touch is not one of them

 

[I7guy]

Just like how Android and iOS are both superior and inferior to each other.Android wins in customisation and productivity.iOS wins in integration and apps.3D Touch is good for quickly jumping into a particular section of an app if it supports it.Long press works everywhere.

Can you use 3D Touch to jump into mobile settings to clean cache?
Can you use 3D Touch to open the WiFi settings directly in a drop out menu?
Can you use 3D Touch to change wallpaper instantly?
Can you use 3d Touch to edit widgets in just 2 taps?
Can you use 3D Touch right on the icon to directly open bookmarks on other browsers?
Can you edit the 3D Touch functions to change the feature you want activated when you use it?(Long press for Google search OR S Finder)
Can you assign gestures on iOS?

- iOS doesn't need to clean cache
- yes
- wallpaper changing is my most prevalent use of iOS
- yes using launcher
- yes for Safari
- no
- yes

Can you use 3dt to go to the Rolodex of open apps in android?(hint no)
Can the galaxy make use of its second lens? Can it do bokeh?
Does android have an great integrated messaging system that sends electronic swipes?
Can the galaxy use FaceTime?

See it's real easy to come up with random lists of "functions" that are meaningless and unrelated.

 

[mi7chy]

i7guy is stating long press is inferior to 3D Touch.While 3D Touch is superior in some aspects,long press is to because it works everywhere and even in the most obscure apps and parts of the OS.So It's not inferior

From an ergonomics standpoint long press is easier for one-handed use while 3D touch is not.

 

[I7guy]

From an ergonomics standpoint long press is easier for one-handed use while 3D touch is not.

Not really. For times I'm using the phone one handed the accessibility button comes in handy.

 

[Hanzu Lao]

From an ergonomics standpoint long press is easier for one-handed use while 3D touch is not.

I'm failing to see how.

 

[Radon87000]

- iOS doesn't need to clean cache

Oh really?My original point which you deflected when I clearly meant a long press to jump to cache cleaner you deflected it into iOS doesnt need cache cleaner.Care to explain why Everpix (a wallpaper app is taking 794MB on my phone?Why is Scanner Pro showing 166 MB when I only have 5 documents in it right now?And this is after I used that Memory boost app to clean up storage.So many apps were over 300MB 2 days ago

- yes

No.That menu only shows you the WiFi signals in the area.On Android I literally jump right into the main settings to tinker to my hearts content

- wallpaper changing is my most prevalent use of iOS

I change my wallpaper everyday.I find that keeping the same wallpaper is boring

- yes using launcher

Meaning?

- yes for Safari

And on Android yes for everything.In addition I can customise the swipe as to whether I want a incognito window open directly for every browser

an you use 3dt to go to the Rolodex of open apps in android?(hint no)

Why should I take the effort of using 3D Touch for App Switcher when a dedicated button on the bottom already exists and is much faster to access?

Can the galaxy make use of its second lens? Can it do bokeh?

For now,no.But the S7 still has the overall camera lead even if by a small margin.Do you want me to post the video?

Does android have an great integrated messaging system that sends electronic swipes?

Allo and Duo

Can the galaxy use FaceTime?

Skype

 

[IFRIT]

I'm failing to see how.

I'm guessing because some people balance the phone on thier fingers and in that position it can be hard to modulate pressure with the thumb.

 

[I7guy]

Oh really?My original point which you deflected when I clearly meant a long press to jump to cache cleaner you deflected it into iOS doesnt need cache cleaner.Care to explain why Everpix (a wallpaper app is taking 794MB on my phone?Why is Scanner Pro showing 166 MB when I only have 5 documents in it right now?And this is after I used that Memory boost app to clean up storage.So many apps were over 300MB 2 days ago





No.That menu only shows you the WiFi signals in the area.On Android I literally jump right into the main settings to tinker to my hearts content


I change my wallpaper everyday.I find that keeping the same wallpaper is boring


Meaning?

And on Android yes for everything.In addition I can customise the swipe as to whether I want a incognito window open directly for every browser





Why should I take the effort of using 3D Touch for App Switcher when a dedicated button on the bottom already exists and is much faster to access?


For now,no.But the S7 still has the overall camera lead even if by a small margin.Do you want me to post the video?


Allo and Duo


Skype

That's not cache, that's working memory; there a difference. You want to listen to music or read emails offline? This data has to be stored somewhere. Generally cache is temporary disposable memory. iOS doesn't need cache cleaners.

Now if your only use case is wallpaper changing and you count screen presses; android is the better option for you.

I don't have to install 3rd Party software to communicate to the tens of millions of others who have the same software.

Did I mention the loooonnngggg press is slower than 3dt and Cnet found the iPhone camera superior to the s7. And the bokeh in the iPhone 7+?

 

[spinedoc77]

What are you afraid of, exactly?

I mean, sure, if you're a drug dealer, letting Google do things like automatically scan and send you shipment arrival notifications, might end up being evidence against you if Google was served with a warrant and had to give up info (same as Apple does).

For the rest of us, it's a really handy perk, like having an intelligent personal assistant. Much of that can be turned off via your Google Dashboard too.

But that has little to do with Android, and more about using GMail, Google search, Maps, etc on any platform.

Heck, even self-proclaimed privacy-advocate Apple happily sells its customers to Google (as the default search engine) in return for billions of dollars in search revenue kickback.

My fear is my information being given out. Yeah I understand the age we live in, but I still think privacy should matter. With Google you always feel like that creepy uncle is somewhere lurking in the shadows looking at you at the most inopportune times. Didn't they just do an about face and release Allo which by default keeps your messages on its servers forever if you don't go incognito? It just seems that every single move I make is valuable to advertisers, but I don't want every single move I make passed along or used like that. While I think Apple has an inferior product and OS, at least I know they made their money off of my hardware purchase. I'm also impressed at how Apple handled the FBI rattling its cage and stuck to its guns, you know Google would have (and most definitely has) folded over like a cheap suit.
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Just like how Android and iOS are both superior and inferior to each other.Android wins in customisation and productivity.iOS wins in integration and apps.3D Touch is good for quickly jumping into a particular section of an app if it supports it.Long press works everywhere.

Can you use 3D Touch to jump into mobile settings to clean cache?
Can you use 3D Touch to open the WiFi settings directly in a drop out menu?
Can you use 3D Touch to change wallpaper instantly?
Can you use 3d Touch to edit widgets in just 2 taps?
Can you use 3D Touch right on the icon to directly open bookmarks on other browsers?
Can you edit the 3D Touch functions to change the feature you want activated when you use it?(Long press for Google search OR S Finder)
Can you assign gestures on iOS?

I could make a similar list of other features for how iOS is better than Android but 3D Touch is not one of them

3d touch is overtouted IMO, but I can't really speak for anyone else but myself. The biggest issue I have with it is it's too easy to press too hard when you are not 3d touching, and too easy to not press hard enough when you do want 3d touch. Yes I've played around with the different pressure settings. I would just rather have a single long press and a menu with functions.

BTW Launcher lost a LOT of functionality. Apple took away the ability to assign shortcuts for any setting, whether it's wifi or whatever. Too bad, Launcher was one of the better widgets among what are functionally VERY weak widgets.

Kind of on the same topic, the back button in Android is priceless. Apple's implementation is to have these really really tiny back buttons in the upper left of the screen, so small you can barely see them. It brings to mind Jobs being against having to use a stylus to drive the UI, the buttons are small enough where arguably you would prefer a stylus and I know sometimes I have to tap on them several times for my fat finger to register. They are also inconsistent, sometimes you see them, sometimes you don't. But that's just one example of why I feel iOS UI is inferior and less polished than Android in general.

 

[Hanzu Lao]

I'm guessing because some people balance the phone on thier fingers and in that position it can be hard to modulate pressure with the thumb.

Set 3D touch to light. It's faster and you need to apply same pressure you would need to tap and hold for a phone not to slip.
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Don't bother; the people you're arguing with are way too far gone to be convinced otherwise. Let them use their exploding phones as much as their hearts desire.

Flat earth scientists they are.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

3DT is better than Long Press when it comes to the implementation of the user input. And it's not like Apple got rid of Long Press, so I don't even know why people are arguing over it.

The progress of 3DT options is moving pretty slow though.

 

[Radon87000]

That's not cache, that's working memory; there a difference. You want to listen to music or read emails offline? This data has to be stored somewhere. Generally cache is temporary disposable memory. iOS doesn't need cache cleaners.

Nope its cache.Check this out.iOS does need cache cleaners just like Android unless you like having junk files on your phone

http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/ip...unk-files-temporary-files-cache-2016-3609079/

Now if your only use case is wallpaper changing and you count screen presses; android is the better option for you.

So to summarise apart from customising(wallpapers and themes),using it for capturing pics (using edit,delete functions),productivity (number key on top of keyboard,multi window),installing and deleting apps,gestures,iOS is better.Got it

I don't have to install 3rd Party software to communicate to the tens of millions of others who have the same software.

Assuming they all have an iOS device.Allo works on iOS and Android.I dont have to worry about OS incompatiblity when using Allo

Did I mention the loooonnngggg press is slower than 3dt

How?

and Cnet found the iPhone camera superior to the s7. And the bokeh in the iPhone 7+?

Many reviews I read including Forbes put the S7 ahead of the iPhone 7 so if its CNET against 90% of the other review sites,I will choose the latter

Just curious,do you actually find the iPhone better in the below vid?(Hint-the results are obvious even before you press play)

 

[apolloa]

So far I've found my iPhone 7 camera to be worst then my iPhone 6S was! It's shutter seems to be a lot slower.

 

[I7guy]

Nope its cache.Check this out.iOS does need cache cleaners just like Android unless you like having junk files on your phone

http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/ip...unk-files-temporary-files-cache-2016-3609079/

That article bolstered the case that IOS does NOT need cache cleaners. Taking the first example, Safari, in case you weren't aware of how modern browsers work to give the best web experience, I'll explain it. Browsers store web-bits, such as cookies, web files and download history to make browsing better and increase response time in the browser by not continually downloading the same file and the cookies enable storing of preferences and login. Sure you can delete all of those files but then you have to enter your login credentials again for every website.

So to me, these are not "temporary" files.

So to summarise apart from customising(wallpapers and themes),using it for capturing pics (using edit,delete functions),productivity (number key on top of keyboard,multi window),installing and deleting apps,gestures,iOS is better.Got it

So to summarize, aside from customizing wallpaper and cleaning your cache IOS is better. If your main tasks are wallpaper switching and cache cleaning, android is better.

Assuming they all have an iOS device.Allo works on iOS and Android.I dont have to worry about OS incompatiblity when using Allo



How?

No incompatibilities with facetime or imessage. Oh, and did I mention the loooonnnnngggg press to get that menu, while 3DT is instant. That long press seems to be torture to wait for.

Many reviews I read including Forbes put the S7 ahead of the iPhone 7 so if its CNET against 90% of the other review sites,I will choose the latter

Just curious,do you actually find the iPhone better in the below vid?(Hint-the results are obvious even before you press play)

This is a typical photo comparison, note the blown out highlights and overprocessing of the bottom photo from the s7. While YOU might prefer that photo, I prefer the top photo. This is typical S7 along with color shift, and oversaturation, as shown by the bottom comparison. Can you pick out the photo with the most chromatic abberation, hint, it's the top photo and it's from the s7.

 

[FFR]

So far I've found my iPhone 7 camera to be worst then my iPhone 6S was! It's shutter seems to be a lot slower.

Weren't you interested in a pixel?

 

[spinedoc77]

3DT is better than Long Press when it comes to the implementation of the user input. And it's not like Apple got rid of Long Press, so I don't even know why people are arguing over it.

The progress of 3DT options is moving pretty slow though.

I don't agree, but that's just my personal opinion. What makes 3dt better than simply long press? It's confusing and too often you try to do one, but end up doing the other one. I would gladly turn off 3dt completely, but there are some submenus that I like and use. But they could easily be put into the long press menu.

 

[apolloa]

Weren't you interested in a pixel?

No, never said that, I had and still have a Nexus 5, don't want a Pixel.

 

[tbayrgs]

I don't agree, but that's just my personal opinion. What makes 3dt better than simply long press? It's confusing and too often you try to do one, but end up doing the other one. I would gladly turn off 3dt completely, but there are some submenus that I like and use. But they could easily be put into the long press menu.

How can you use a long press on app icons when that action is used to delete or move them? I guess you could add those actions to the long press menu but that's far less streamlined, adding extra touches and taking up valuable menu list space.

I'll agree that 3D Touch isn't a vital element of iOS but I'll argue it's still a better solution than simply solely using long press as it offers an additional layer of functionality while also allowing the existence of long press functions. For instance...I can 3DT a web page link for a preview or long press for that respective menu but you couldn't effectively combine both of those features into only 3DT or long press without making it more cumbersome to use either.

I also use the 3DT cursor navigation and quick app switch all the time--again, 2 elements you cannot replicate with a long press.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I don't agree, but that's just my personal opinion. What makes 3dt better than simply long press? It's confusing and too often you try to do one, but end up doing the other one. I would gladly turn off 3dt completely, but there are some submenus that I like and use. But they could easily be put into the long press menu.

I agree that it took some getting used to at first, cause it made long pressing become something you have to do with a light touch instead of a normal press.

 

[spinedoc77]

How can you use a long press on app icons when that action is used to delete or move them? I guess you could add those actions to the long press menu but that's far less streamlined, adding extra touches and taking up valuable menu list space.

I'll agree that 3D Touch isn't a vital element of iOS but I'll argue it's still a better solution than simply solely using long press as it offers an additional layer of functionality while also allowing the existence of long press functions. For instance...I can 3DT a web page link for a preview or long press for that respective menu but you couldn't effectively combine both of those features into only 3DT or long press without making it more cumbersome to use either.

I also use the 3DT cursor navigation and quick app switch all the time--again, 2 elements you cannot replicate with a long press.

It's not rocket science, just put those actions into a menu. Really what 3dt touch does is replicate a long press, so now you have 2 long presses in essence. It's redundant and really kind of silly IMO, much less streamlined than just one long press and a menu with functions. It's just such a pain to make sure the pressure is perfect, or you get the opposite of what you intended. 3dt is even a pain in other circumstances, for example with 3dt on medium when I scroll through webpages I constantly am 3d touching text.

I see what you are saying with a link preview, that's a good point. In that case 3dt acts more like a mouse hover on a PC. It's not something I personally find very useful due to Apples implementation, but I can't discount if you find it useful. Although I doubt there is no way to integrate them into a long press, just no one has done it yet. Maybe Apple just needs to differentiate the touch pressure better so there is a greater difference between long press and 3dt.

I still think it's fairly needless, but once again that's for how I use my phone and I don't mean to discount how you use yours. I guess I survived without it on Android for years and never really missed not having those functions. Just my opinion.
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I agree that it took some getting used to at first, cause it made long pressing become something you have to do with a light touch instead of a normal press.

Yes exactly, I'm still getting used to that. I'm finding that one 3dt pressure setting does not work for everything as well.

 

[macfacts]

Let's assume iOS is way better than Android at almost everything. The question now becomes why are people buying Android devices that cost the same or more than iPhones?

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Let's assume iOS is way better than Android at almost everything. The question now becomes why are people buying Android devices that cost the same or more than iPhones?

Mainly choice of design and hardware.

My note 7 definitely looks and feels more premium than my iPhone 7 Plus. Bigger and better display in a smaller frame.

 

[phoneme]

Let's assume iOS is way better than Android at almost everything. The question now becomes why are people buying Android devices that cost the same or more than iPhones?

you can assume all you want fact is android does more. weather or not it does it better. the fact still remains android just works when ios doesn't. sometimes it doesn't matter if iphone does something better. the fact that some people need a device that is going to do everything. even tho that said device may not do it better.

 

[macfacts]

Mainly choice of design and hardware.

My note 7 definitely looks and feels more premium than my iPhone 7 Plus. Bigger and better display in a smaller frame.

Another possibility is that the assumption that iOS is much better is incorrect.

 

[phoneme]

Another possibility is that the assumption that iOS is much better is incorrect.

my personal opinion and i could be totally wrong. but it all depends on what you do with your phone. if your a person who uses your phone for alot of social media type stuff then i would think iphone may be the better the option. but if your a bussiness type person then android may be the better option. this is just how i see things. and yes i do buy both flagships every year. except for this year i will not be buying the iphone7.