is the Galaxy S 7 a real threat to iPhone ? how many here would switch ?

[Vancity Fob]

I'm really considering switching to it right now although i think i'll stick with my Note 5 for a bit longer. All reviews are positive, waterproofing, camera is good, it's quite a threat to the current iPhone actually. Right now i'm just kinda broke and they won't offer me much when i trade in the note 5...

Samsung has certainly come a very long way from how they were a few years ago. I got into iphones because i had a Galaxy S3 and it was trash.

 

[epicrayban]

That's quite a leap. Are you the worst type of critic? Ladies and gentlemen I give you someone who wants a someone to think and act like them. It takes all kinds I guess. And what do you say or do if Apple has another record breaking quarter and you still don't like their products? Lol.

I hope they do by way of a desirable iPhone.

And you're not really listening, are you, if you're asking me that question?

How many times does it need to be said? Again, tell me how I turn on profits as a feature on my iPhone.

Sales and profits -- good or bad -- don't directly affect the end user experience. I've been saying that for pages and pages and you are still here asking me that question?

Ya still don't get the point. Goodness gracious. You are hopeless.
[doublepost=1462334697][/doublepost]Anyway, moving along... back to general iPhone 7 discussion...


You know what's interesting? I'm glad Apple is getting a lot of media attention. I'm glad a lot of people are talking about Apple's latest quarter. I'm glad Wall St is buzzing and concerned. And I'm glad Tim Cook appeared on television to publically hype up the iPhone. I'm glad all this is making news and general discussion because...

It means it'll put more eyes and scrutiny on Apple. Especially the iPhone.

And it really makes you think... (totally speculating now), is Apple changing their plans? Or are they sticking to them?

There are semi-reliable rumors that it'll be a modest update both in innovation/features and in design; the plan is to save it all for 2017. Was that the original plan? Will they stick to it? Will they alter course? Would it tbe too late in relation to the production and operations? It isn't easy building and moving millions of units...

Or did they have a different plan all along and these "modest rumors" were all false? And that's why Tim Cook can come out and publically say, "the next iPhones will introduce features you didn't know you needed!" with promises of innovation.

Or is he just saying that because they recently decided to change their plan amidst the rising competition and pressure, and are now trying to get more features or a more drastic redesign into this year's models?!

Who really knows.

Personally, I don't think Apple is this easy to sway, but... who knows.

In any case, my first point remains: I'm glad this is getting attention. It'll mean more pressure and eyes on Apple. I have my fingers crossed.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Hey maybe Tizen will actually become a thing, and it will win over iphone users who have a stigma about Android being bloated, buggy and slow to update. They'd be right at home in the walled garden Samsung would create.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/technology/view/samsung-angles-for-spot-at-heart-of-connected-life?utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Post Blast (bii-mobile): Samsung's shift to software — Marketers excited about smartwatches — Microsoft bots come to Messenger&utm_term=BII List Mobile ALL

Steps laid out at the conference included ramping Samsung’s own Tizen operating system which has failed to gain momentum in a market dominated by free Google-backed Android software.

“In the past five years, we have changed from a hardware company to a software company, I think,” Rhee said.

And, by building its own Tizen platform, the company has the control to tightly integrate software, services, hardware, and security, he reasoned.

The "mobile communications business president" thinks Samsung is a software company.

 

[Truefan31]

I hope they do by way of a desirable iPhone.

And you're not really listening, are you, if you're asking me that question?

How many times does it need to be said? Again, tell me how I turn on profits as a feature on my iPhone.

Sales and profits -- good or bad -- don't directly affect the end user experience. I've been saying that for pages and pages and you are still here asking me that question?

Ya still don't get the point. Goodness gracious. You are hopeless.
[doublepost=1462334697][/doublepost]Anyway, moving along... back to general iPhone 7 discussion...


You know what's interesting? I'm glad Apple is getting a lot of media attention. I'm glad a lot of people are talking about Apple's latest quarter. I'm glad Wall St is buzzing and concerned. And I'm glad Tim Cook appeared on television to publically hype up the iPhone. I'm glad all this is making news and general discussion because...

It means it'll put more eyes and scrutiny on Apple. Especially the iPhone.

And it really makes you think... (totally speculating now), is Apple changing their plans? Or are they sticking to them?

There are semi-reliable rumors that it'll be a modest update both in innovation/features and in design; the plan is to save it all for 2017. Was that the original plan? Will they stick to it? Will they alter course? Would it tbe too late in relation to the production and operations? It isn't easy building and moving millions of units...

Or did they have a different plan all along and these "modest rumors" were all false? And that's why Tim Cook can come out and publically say, "the next iPhones will introduce features you didn't know you needed!" with promises of innovation.

Or is he just saying that because they recently decided to change their plan amidst the rising competition and pressure, and are now trying to get more features or a more drastic redesign into this year's models?!

Who really knows.

Personally, I don't think Apple is this easy to sway, but... who knows.

In any case, my first point remains: I'm glad this is getting attention. It'll mean more pressure and eyes on Apple. I have my fingers crossed.

I think Apple is sticking with their plan personally. But it's my opinion. They knew this quarter would be slow relative to last year, and probably the next quarter too. And I'm not sure these results are primarily because of the competition. Every flagship oem is bracing and warning of a saturated market.

It's funny to me, it really just reiterates that basically in the flagship market Apple is in competition with itself. I don't know of any company that has a 13 year run of increasing quarters, increasing iphone sales every year until now, it just happened now, and all a sudden it gets all the press and downgrades from stock experts (who have never particularly cared for Apple to begin with) that Apple is in trouble. Apple is really in competition with itself. It's the only way to explain how selling 50 million iphones in a quarter somehow means Apple isn't competing. I could be wrong though, only time will tell.


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Hey maybe Tizen will actually become a thing, and it will win over iphone users who have a stigma about Android being bloated, buggy and slow to update. They'd be right at home in the walled garden Samsung would create.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/technology/view/samsung-angles-for-spot-at-heart-of-connected-life?utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Post Blast (bii-mobile): Samsung's shift to software — Marketers excited about smartwatches — Microsoft bots come to Messenger&utm_term=BII List Mobile ALL





The "mobile communications business president" thinks Samsung is a software company.

If Samsung decides to really go all out good luck. If there's a stigma about android, i think it's more of the carriers that influence it. the bloat, slow updates are directly linked to carriers, at least in the US.

I'm sure Samsung would love to have an ecosystem like Apple. But I imagine it isn't as easy as it looks, creating a polished mobile os, app store with a large selection of apps made for both phones & tablets, and then creating a desktop os so computers/laptops can also benefit from integration. Then you have to support it all, with updates and customer service for all products and software. If it was easy, everyone would have done it by now.

 

[Tsepz]

Interesting:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_is_...tphone_market_leader_in_the_us-news-18098.php

 

[Surf Donkey]

Interesting:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_is_...tphone_market_leader_in_the_us-news-18098.php

Sorry, but this isn't really that interesting. It is more "no duh". Samsung leads in March 2016 when their new flagship is announced. It outsells a 9+ month old flagship from Apple. Last time this happened was..... you guessed it..... 11 months ago when the Galaxy 6 was launched.

I guess the only interesting tidbit is that Apple did announce the SE around the same time as the Galaxy. But I don't think that was ever expected to sell like crazy at launch. More like a slow trickle as people replace their 5S and want to keep a small form factor.

 

[Tsepz]

Sorry, but this isn't really that interesting. It is more "no duh". Samsung leads in March 2016 when their new flagship is announced. It outsells a 9+ month old flagship from Apple. Last time this happened was..... you guessed it..... 11 months ago when the Galaxy 6 was launched.

I guess the only interesting tidbit is that Apple did announce the SE around the same time as the Galaxy. But I don't think that was ever expected to sell like crazy at launch. More like a slow trickle as people replace their 5S and want to keep a small form factor.

If I remember correctly the S6 arrived some time in April and the S6E was in huge demand but low supply, so Samsung didn't do that well.

 

[jamezr]

If I remember correctly the S6 arrived some time in April and the S6E was in huge demand but low supply, so Samsung didn't do that well.

Right now the Samsung phones are the best selling Android phones on the market. Samsung is increasing sales and market share YoY and taking over as global smartphone leader.

 

[Surf Donkey]

If I remember correctly the S6 arrived some time in April and the S6E was in huge demand but low supply, so Samsung didn't do that well.

Ah, so what happened 11 months ago? Just a random bump? Cyclical time for phone sales to be down, so Samsung gets ahead?

What will be impressive is if Samsung sustains these sales past 2Q.

 

[Tsepz]

Right now the Samsung phones are the best selling Android phones on the market. Samsung is increasing sales and market share YoY and taking over as global smartphone leader.

Indeed, lets hope they keep it up, although I am hoping LG, Huawei and Xiaomi will eat away at Apple and Samsung, and create an interesting marketplace.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Right now the Samsung phones are the best selling Android phones on the market. Samsung is increasing sales and market share YoY and taking over as global smartphone leader.

It will be interesting to see what happens when the carriers aren't pushing the free VR, Netflix, etc promotions....if they can maintain the YOY revenue increases into Q2 and Q3.

And that is a bit incorrect, their YOY market share actually declined in Q1. They shipped less phones YOY as well. But some of the other major manufacturers are seeing the same and have expected this for a while.

 

[jamezr]

It will be interesting to see what happens when the carriers aren't pushing the free VR, Netflix, etc promotions....if they can maintain the YOY revenue increases into Q2 and Q3.

And that is a bit incorrect, their YOY market share actually declined in Q1. They shipped less phones YOY as well. But some of the other major manufacturers are seeing the same and have expected this for a while.

The next quarter will be very interesting indeed!

the carriers aren't pushing the free VR, Netflix, etc promotions.

The carriers aren't running the Gear VR and Netflix promos. That was Samsung. Proving once again how great a value their phones are!
You're right they went from 24.6 in Q2 15 to 24.5 in Q2 16. But they have also recently been upgraded as sales have been better than expected for the Galaxy S7 line.....

 

[Surf Donkey]

The carriers aren't running the Gear VR and Netflix promos. That was Samsung. Proving once again how great a value their phones are!

So are their phones not a good value without the promotions? I don't believe they are running these anymore, which probably will have an impact on sales.

And Netflix was a T-mobile promotion. I do believe only the VR was from Samsung. Probably just clearing inventory of the old USB connectors.

 

[jamezr]

So are their phones not a good value without the promotions? I don't believe they are running these anymore, which probably will have an impact on sales.

And Netflix was a T-mobile promotion. I do believe only the VR was from Samsung. Probably just clearing inventory of the old USB connectors.

they are a great value without and an ever better one with the promotions. I don't see end of the promotions having an effect on the sales. I think the next quarter will show Samsung gaining YoY growth. We will see!

 

[macfacts]

Sorry, but this isn't really that interesting. It is more "no duh". Samsung leads in March 2016 when their new flagship is announced. It outsells a 9+ month old flagship from Apple. Last time this happened was..... you guessed it..... 11 months ago when the Galaxy 6 was launched.

I guess the only interesting tidbit is that Apple did announce the SE around the same time as the Galaxy. But I don't think that was ever expected to sell like crazy at launch. More like a slow trickle as people replace their 5S and want to keep a small form factor.

Click the source link in the story. It says the S7 is selling better than the S6 as well. So Samsung is doing better than what they did last year and better than Apple now. Why is it when Samsung sells a lot, Apple investors say it is because they are mostly budget phones but you are saying it is the Samsung flagships that are the big sellers?

And the iphone 6s is 9+ months old? lol it was released september 25, 2015. That is about 7 months ago.

 

[The Game 161]

Cmon now people don't buy these phones just because of promotions..people may decide to get their phones where the promotions are instead of just the phone. That's what I did...I had a few places I could get my edge and I went with the place where I would get the Bluetooth speaker and case instead of just the phone.

 

[Truefan31]

Click the source link in the story. It says the S7 is selling better than the S6 as well. So Samsung is doing better than what they did last year and better than Apple now. Why is it when Samsung sells a lot, Apple investors say it is because they are mostly budget phones but you are saying it is the Samsung flagships that are the big sellers?

And the iphone 6s is 9+ months old? lol it was released september 25, 2015. That is about 7 months ago.

Well the s7 was released in March vs April for the s6. I'm sure it boosted the quarter getting it in that last month. Also having BOGO from the beginning I'm sure helped.

Is the s7 selling more than the iPhone? I wasn't aware of that. It looks like the s7 is doing well for Samsung though. Good for them.

 

[Truefan31]

Cmon now people don't buy these phones just because of promotions..people may decide to get their phones where the promotions are instead of just the phone. That's what I did...I had a few places I could get my edge and I went with the place where I would get the Bluetooth speaker and case instead of just the phone.

I don't think the promotions like vr are the end all be all but it doesn't hurt I guess. I think the early bogo is what helped more.

 

[jamezr]

I don't think the promotions like vr are the end all be all but it doesn't hurt I guess. I think the early bogo is what helped more.

But they all run bogo promotions. Some carriers like AT&T were running bogo promos for the iphone as well.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Click the source link in the story. It says the S7 is selling better than the S6 as well. So Samsung is doing better than what they did last year and better than Apple now.

Samsung is not "doing better" in selling more phones year YOY like @jamezr says. That is all I was saying. Fanboys make statements because they think their brand is "winning" all the time on here. But sometimes the facts say differently.

Samsung is increasing sales and market share YoY and taking over as global smartphone leader.

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS41216716

YoY Samsung is shipping less phones, that is a fact. Perhaps the S7 is selling better than the S6. And they are making more PROFIT because they are selling more flagships vs budget phones (and I do believe the Edge is selling better which is more expensive). But the fact is they shipped less UNITS YoY and their market share is down too. Not by much mind you.

https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-electronics-announces-first-quarter-results-2016

While smartphone and tablet demand saw a slight QoQ decrease due to seasonal effects, overall operating profit for the Division increased. This increase was largely due to the early launch and strong global performance of the flagship Galaxy S7 and S7 edge, as evidenced by robust sell-out figures and low inventory levels compared to their predecessors. A streamlined mid-to-low-end smartphone lineup also contributed to improved profitability.

Why is it when Samsung sells a lot, Apple investors say it is because they are mostly budget phones but you are saying it is the Samsung flagships that are the big sellers?.

I am not an Apple Investor, so I have no idea what they say. But Samsung's quartley statement says that the bump this quarter was due to S7 and S7 Edge flagships? The fact they have more profit while shipping less phones would indicate this as well. It is Samsung saying this, not me??

And the iphone 6s is 9+ months old? lol it was released september 25, 2015. That is about 7 months ago.

Thank you @macfacts. If I am going to call out someone on a technicality, I should be called out as well. You live up to your name! It has been 223 days, 5 hours, 35 minutes since the last iPhone was released. That is 7 months 11 days. I honestly think I typed that wrong (meant 7+ not 9+), but happy to be called out on it and correct myself.

 

[aneftp]

I'm really considering switching to it right now although i think i'll stick with my Note 5 for a bit longer. All reviews are positive, waterproofing, camera is good, it's quite a threat to the current iPhone actually. Right now i'm just kinda broke and they won't offer me much when i trade in the note 5...

Samsung has certainly come a very long way from how they were a few years ago. I got into iphones because i had a Galaxy S3 and it was trash.

The Galaxy s3 was THE ANDROID PHONE that united all the carriers (in the USA).

Before the carriers had so many different variations of the Galaxy phones. We all remember the fiasco when Verizon put BING as the default search on their Verizon of the pre S3 line of Galaxy phones.

 

[Truefan31]

But they all run bogo promotions. Some carriers like AT&T were running bogo promos for the iphone as well.

Yes but not normally in the beginning release of the phone. I'm not knocking it, just saying it has an effect especially that early in the release. Every carrier in the us had an offer of this kind. I'm sure it helped samsungs q1 from last year, as the s6 was released in q2.

 

[jamezr]

Yes but not normally in the beginning release of the phone. I'm not knocking it, just saying it has an effect especially that early in the release.

it sure does....and it helps sustain that sales momentum later as well when sales might decline.

 

[Truefan31]

it sure does....and it helps sustain that sales momentum later as well when sales might decline.

Sure. I can imagine though if the iPhone 7 has a bogo early as well. So far they haven't had to so early. We'll see.

 

[jamezr]

Sure. I can imagine though if the iPhone 7 has a bogo early as well. So far they haven't had to so early. We'll see.

I don't think I have seen an early bogo for an iPhone...but a few months later to help sustain sales is what I have seen. There is always a strong demand early for every iPhone release.