It’s not $259 and there’s no major omg updates to itI don't get all the hate occuring. Seems like a nice update, what's wrong with this iPad?
It’s not $259 and there’s no major omg updates to itI don't get all the hate occuring. Seems like a nice update, what's wrong with this iPad?
I seem to recall some controversy about Apple selling iPad 2s to schools (I think after they had been discontinued for general sale) and getting mud on their face from dropping support quite soon after that?Sales have been declining since the year after the Air 2's release. The Air 2 is still a darned good tablet and honestly, unless one wants Pencil support, there's not much reason to upgrade from it performance-wise. The release of the 2017 iPad actually bumped up Apple's sales last year (higher units sold, but lower ASP).
Sure, it would've been nicer if this was $259 but since this is Apple, I was quite skeptical of the rumored price point.
Iirc, Apple made a push for iPads in schools circa-iPad 2 but I think that mostly flopped. Now they're just trying again. Whether they make any headway, who knows? I think it's still priced too high for the education sector but from a consumer standpoint, I find it a welcome refresh to the 2017 iPad. Certainly a good upgrade for anyone still clinging to iPad Air or older.
I don't think it was already discontinued when they made the push. It was when they dropped the price to $399.I seem to recall some controversy about Apple selling iPad 2s to schools (I think after they had been discontinued for general sale) and getting mud on their face from dropping support quite soon after that?
In fairness, the 2017 iPad received the same "hate" (maybe more) back when it was released last year. Still didn't stop it from selling well to the actual target market (which seems to mostly be not MR forum goers).I don't get all the hate occuring. Seems like a nice update, what's wrong with this iPad?
$299 single / $294 in a ten pack. The same as it was before for the 9.7 iPad. But now the iPad had a 10x fusion chip and apple pencil capabilities. This is a pretty amazing power bump and feature.Now it's a $30 discount![]()
Correction, A10 Fusion (same as iPhone 7), not A10X. Still a decent spec bump.$299 single / $294 in a ten pack. The same as it was before for the 9.7 iPad. But now the iPad had a 10x fusion chip and apple pencil capabilities. This is a pretty amazing power bump and feature.
I don't get all the hate occuring. Seems like a nice update, what's wrong with this iPad?
It’s not $259 and there’s no major omg updates to it
I know the use of the pencil is an update but you have to buy the pencil separately, it would have been nice if they included the pencil, to me they are selling the iPad on its own for $329 with no pencil included, if you want to use this iPad with the pencil the iPad starts at $428I think many will consider the use of the pencil to be an update. For some that will be the selling point.
I agree with this, I think you have hit the nail on the head, it’s getting frustrating that we aren’t really getting to see anything new with Apple, we are probably stuck with the iPhone X design for another 2 years now.Probably more psychological frustration than hate, built over lengthy anticipation and exaggerated expectations. It might have its basis in the days when Steve Jobs would often announce dramatic technological breakthroughs at his annual live events.
It is a nice, measured upgrade, and worthy of this school-based event.
I agree, great update. The other question is whether this is helpful for education. I would much rather kids have cheap rugged laptops. I own the pencil and like it, but I think kids would be better served with paper notebooks, esp if encouraged to digitally archive via a phone.I don't get all the hate occuring. Seems like a nice update, what's wrong with this iPad?
I know the use of the pencil is an update but you have to buy the pencil separately, it would have been nice if they included the pencil, to me they are selling the iPad on its own for $329 with no pencil included, if you want to use this iPad with the pencil the iPad starts at $428.
What "new" are you expecting? The iPad is a mature platform. Apple has been trying to squeeze a bit more churn from customers by including things like ProMotion that are niceties not necessities. It's all a matter of perspective but I'm not going to get jazzed up about a faster processor, more RAM (when the current levels are more than enough for iOS as it is), smaller bezels, or a thinner and/or lighter chassis.I agree with this, I think you have hit the nail on the head, it’s getting frustrating that we aren’t really getting to see anything new with Apple, we are probably stuck with the iPhone X design for another 2 years now.
You know what I agree I now realise that this is a nice update, I just think I was expecting something cheaper and didn’t realise the main focus of this product is education and I get that with the latest education software this will be revolutionary in the classroom. I was a little hasty in hating on this product I was just disappointed there wasn’t any major design change or cheaper price. I apologise to anyone who thought I was hating on this product.Well you can get it with Cellular but they do not include a cellular contract either.
Hard to make you happy about this, don't like, move on.
Most here, including me, think this is a nice update for a great price. They will selling a LOT!
It is what it is and Apple will not be changing it for YOU!
Not everyone needs/wants the stylus. Yeah, I wished they included it, but they didn't. Microsoft doesn't include it in their Surface Pro tablet either and people wanted that for free as well. The tablet itself is a nice update as far as I can seeno pencil included, if you want to use this iPad with the pencil the iPad starts at $428
If you haven’t read my last post please do, yeah I have come round to understanding that this is going to be revolutionary in the classroom, and thinking about the 9.7 iPad Pro from a couple of years back this does pretty much the same as what that did for a cheaper price tag, I’m not going to be buying one but I’m sure this is going to be a great tool for students, artists or illustrators who don’t want to break the bank and go for an iPad Pro.Not everyone needs/wants the stylus. Yeah, I wished they included it, but they didn't. Microsoft doesn't include it in their Surface Pro tablet either and people wanted that for free as well. The tablet itself is a nice update as far as I can see
Nor will I, as my 10.5 IPP is more then up to the task that I use it forI’m not going to be buying one
I'm not entirely sold it will outsell chomebooks, but of the schools that embrace it, I think its a nice option.I’m sure this is going to be a great tool for students
Sorry, but no. It isn't going to be revolutionary in the classroom. The thing preventing iPads from replacement chromebooks in the classroom is not price. It's one factor... but it probably isn't even in the top 5 reasons.If you haven’t read my last post please do, yeah I have come round to understanding that this is going to be revolutionary in the classroom, and thinking about the 9.7 iPad Pro from a couple of years back this does pretty much the same as what that did for a cheaper price tag, I’m not going to be buying one but I’m sure this is going to be a great tool for students, artists or illustrators who don’t want to break the bank and go for an iPad Pro.
I think it will be revolutionary for students.Sorry, but no. It isn't going to be revolutionary in the classroom. The thing preventing iPads from replacement chromebooks in the classroom is not price. It's one factor... but it probably isn't even in the top 5 reasons.
I agree, great update. The other question is whether this is helpful for education. I would much rather kids have cheap rugged laptops. I own the pencil and like it, but I think kids would be better served with paper notebooks, esp if encouraged to digitally archive via a phone.
Well see, chromebooks are still cheaper and given the tight budgets school systems are under.I think it will be revolutionary for students.
I don't get all the hate occuring. Seems like a nice update, what's wrong with this iPad?
Oh wow, that case is... unique shall we say.
My kids don't get to take home the chromebooks, so I think that keeps costs down even more as that reduces accidental damages (somewhat). I agree with the G Suite, its light years ahead of iWork and the classroom suite of applications where my kids upload/manage their homework is quite effecient. I don't if Apple's classroom is going to be on par to that or notWe give every student a Chromebook to take home for around $300 a piece with a 3-year accidental damage warranty. That includes a keyboard and a mouse. The management system is RIDICULOUSLY easy. G Suite is so far beyond iWork it's not even funny.