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Some of us, like me, don’t see it that we’re in a notch pickle. You can’t really say if Ive quit this would have been better to your satisfaction or worse. To each their own, but as another poster said it’s better than motorized solutions, IMO, better than bigger bezels. Now unless one doesn’t like face jd and wants Touch ID back...that would solve the issue, but on flagships that probably won’t happen.
Nope, the notch is no big deal at all. Apple makes amazing phone, face ID is amazing. I haven't noticed the notch once on my XS Max.
I truly hated the notch until I got my Xr. Now I either don’t care or even like it. Funny how sometimes perspectives change.
Well the notch was necessary because of Face ID. However it would be nice for Apple to start moving away from the notch now. This will be the third year with the same design.
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This is not better than the notch.
This thread has delete me written all over it. Use a phone with a notch and you’ll figure out that it doesn’t matter much. Move on.
I’d say the notch will be reduced/eliminated eventually, but the technology has to mature/ consolidate where it allows for it. If you think about it, there are quite a few hardware sensors/with the speaker/microphone embedded in the notch (8 total pieces of hardware). It’s the sacrifice that was made for a greater piece of technology with Face ID/3-D facial mapping.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to maximise screen real estate compared to the total size of the phone. Phones are way big enough as is and adding any forehead and/or chin to a phone that is otherwise unnecessary just adds to a phone's size. I like that the fact that my S10's display is the same size as a Xr but is noticeably physically smaller and lighter. While I've gotten used to this size phone it is hardly my preferred and the smaller a phone goes (this is where a possible SE2 comes in) the more significant the bezels proportionately become.
Extra materials in a physically larger phone has costs associated with it as well.
The notch was, and still is, a good compromise to make at the time it was made. It allowed for the workings of Face ID along with giving space for status bar elements that would otherwise take away from one's usable screen real estate. Its an evolutionary stepping stone to somewhere else. The problem Apple has is that they're sort of stuck with it for the time being where others have been able to minimise, and even do away with, the loss of display space.
As an aside I'm personally happier with an in-display FPR than face unlock, so for me a minimal notch/hole punch is perfect, but that's a personal preference and you can't please everyone outside of offering both here. Given what Apple has said with Face ID being significantly more secure than an FPR I can't really see them backtracking on that one to offer an in-display FPR.
The notch was a necessary design choice.
Screen protectors from 10 years ago had a notch cut out to accommodate the earpiece and camera. Apple took it further by cutting a notch in the LCD/OLED. It was an engineering choice to maximize the screen ratio. The marketing department ran with it.
I just hope we don't get a hole punch like Samsung is doing. It's one of the ugliest design choices I've ever seen on a phone!
Apple wasn't the first to intro the 'notch' ... Seems like they followed lead like almost every other [android] phone. And not we are getting rid of it. Companys will follow as they do, and eventually we won't have a notch to deal with. But I mean "Design decline" .... Lots of styles that come and go (in fashion, hairstyles, etc.)
I don't like the notch myself but it doesn't matter as I love my 6s.
I think it will be a never-ending story on here about the notch until it either changes or is gone for good.
I think it will be a never-ending story on here about the notch until it either changes or is gone for good.
Honestly, the notch discussion is mostly already over. iPhone X and XS are amazing and the notch is a big part of it.
I hope you are right, but it's a bit of a wait to find out what happens next!
2020 should be interesting.
If there's one thing about future iPhone designs I already know I won't like, the leaks of the camera "bump" on the 2019 leaks are hideous and look like they could be prone to cracking.
I don't even know why people are still talking about it when every Android phones already copied the notch, even Samsung (by making it into a hole).
A hole punch is ‘uglier’ than the notch? Ok. It’s far less obtrusive and doesn’t nearly stand out as much. Now, I don’t have an issue with the notch, but I Definitely don’t see the aesthetic of the hole punch being that much more off-putting compared to the notch. To each their own in terms of design aesthetics.
Honestly the hole punch is no better and the notch enables a ton of features I like.
It's only a notch if you look at it that way. For me it's an elegant way to move the time and status icons out of the main display.
Still amazes me that I hardly even see the notch any more and others, it is all they seem to see!
Why not ask the same question about the bezels on earlier designs, especially the iPhone 6 through 8?
The Ive swipe is ridiculous. Ive oversaw the development of next year's iPhone. He signed off on the design.