The quality has been slightly better on the files from ProCamera. I also prefer the interface where shutter speed and ISO is truly locked in the manual mode and will not change automatically when you change focus point in the image.
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iPhone 16 Pro Max Issues with ProRAW 48 and stock camera app
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The quality has been slightly better on the files from ProCamera. I also prefer the interface where shutter speed and ISO is truly locked in the manual mode and will not change automatically when you change focus point in the image.
I have to say that the difference between Stock and 3rd-party could simply be that the 3rd-party apps are addening sharpening.
However, the quality seems to have taken a big hit since 14 Pro, which easiliy has the best results here. It's almost as if they started using other lens elements of inferior quality. 15 & 16 looks out-of-focus compared to 14 Pro.
edit: Actually, it looks like there is something bad going on in the image process on the 15 & 16. They've these weird artefacts. Probably something that didn't exist on the 14 Pro.
Either way I'd return it, sorry. The camera is a huge deal if you buy these phones.
Try some other mode and see if it's still present there?
However, the quality seems to have taken a big hit since 14 Pro, which easiliy has the best results here. It's almost as if they started using other lens elements of inferior quality. 15 & 16 looks out-of-focus compared to 14 Pro.
edit: Actually, it looks like there is something bad going on in the image process on the 15 & 16. They've these weird artefacts. Probably something that didn't exist on the 14 Pro.
Either way I'd return it, sorry. The camera is a huge deal if you buy these phones.
Try some other mode and see if it's still present there?
To me it looks like the Stock app is using too much denoise. The details becomes smudgy and it cannot be saved by additional sharpening.
To me it is absurd that they even apply denoise to ProRAW images. The whole point of ProRAW is that we edit them ourselves in post processing and denoising should be left for the end user to deal with according to taste.
It affects all modes in the stock camera. The only way to get good detail from iPhone 16 Pro Max is by using a third party app at the moment.
Regular RAW 12MP is almost as detailed as ProRAW 48MP and it should not be like that...
Is this the app your speaking about?
ProCamera. Professional Camera
THE ORIGINAL: ProCamera is the ultimate photo and video app for photography enthusiasts, creative minds, and professional users. Experience the power of a DSLR camera in the palm of your hand with ProCamera's robust features and seamless integration with your iOS photo library. ProCamera...
apps.apple.com
Yep!Is this the app your speaking about?
ProCamera. Professional Camera
THE ORIGINAL: ProCamera is the ultimate photo and video app for photography enthusiasts, creative minds, and professional users. Experience the power of a DSLR camera in the palm of your hand with ProCamera's robust features and seamless integration with your iOS photo library. ProCamera...apps.apple.com
Is it difficult to use if your not an advanced photographer? I'm tempted to give it a try but am worried I won't utilize the full potential of the app.
You do need to understand basic camera settings in order to use it. But there's no risk in giving it a shot?
Thank you! On ProCamera, what settings are you using? And do you prefer using RAW or ProRAW?
RAW. I only use ProRAW when I need 48MP but I dislike the amount of post processing that Apple force on us when using ProRAW. It is surely not a real RAW format.
I shoot all manual with as low ISO as possible to get the least amount of noise which allows for great detail.
Agreed! I compared the ProRAW with RAW and ProRAW looks much worse lol.
Highly detailed. But I see no difference between these in the RAW files. I think it only affects the jpg version.
Cool, so basically default settings in the app then? I've just downloaded on your recommendation.
With Pro Camera - do you have to buy the in app purchases on top of the up front charge for the app? And if you don't what do you miss out on? It's quite expensive for all!
Currently I use ProCam which was free a few weeks back. Seems to do the job tbh as I'm not as skilled as most.
Currently I use ProCam which was free a few weeks back. Seems to do the job tbh as I'm not as skilled as most.
This is a comparison between Regular RAW upscaled to 48MP, ProRAW 48 with Stock camera and ProRAW 48 with ProCamera using the "Natural" setting in Quality.
This is a 100% crop and they are processed just the same before converting to JPEG.
What I see:
This is a 100% crop and they are processed just the same before converting to JPEG.
What I see:
- Regular RAW 12MP cannot quite compete with the detail level of ProRAW 48 (both Stock and ProCamera)
- Regular RAW 12MP is most natural and doesn't look "painted" in 100% crop
- ProCamera captures quite a lot more detail than stock at ProRAW 48
- Neither of the ProRAW 48 samples have the same level of detail as 14 Pro Max
- We need a Regular RAW 48MP mode NOW!
Agreed on all fronts. Is this something that Apple can enable in a future software update?This is a comparison between Regular RAW upscaled to 48MP, ProRAW 48 with Stock camera and ProRAW 48 with ProCamera using the "Natural" setting in Quality.
This is a 100% crop and they are processed just the same before converting to JPEG.
What I see:
- Regular RAW 12MP cannot quite compete with the detail level of ProRAW 48 (both Stock and ProCamera)
- Regular RAW 12MP is most natural and doesn't look "painted" in 100% crop
- ProCamera captures quite a lot more detail than stock at ProRAW 48
- Neither of the ProRAW 48 samples have the same level of detail as 14 Pro Max
- We need a Regular RAW 48MP mode NOW!
This is a comparison between Regular RAW upscaled to 48MP, ProRAW 48 with Stock camera and ProRAW 48 with ProCamera using the "Natural" setting in Quality.
This is a 100% crop and they are processed just the same before converting to JPEG.
What I see:
- Regular RAW 12MP cannot quite compete with the detail level of ProRAW 48 (both Stock and ProCamera)
- Regular RAW 12MP is most natural and doesn't look "painted" in 100% crop
- ProCamera captures quite a lot more detail than stock at ProRAW 48
- Neither of the ProRAW 48 samples have the same level of detail as 14 Pro Max
- We need a Regular RAW 48MP mode NOW!
Can you please post the settings applied to convert raw to jpeg?
Did you use Lightroom mobile?
Thank you
ProCamera. Professional Camera
You have to purchase the app first, then pay the one-time purchase afterwards, correct?
You have to purchase the app first, then pay the one-time purchase afterwards, correct?
Which one? There's at least two that is called ProCam in the App Store...
ProCam : Pro Camera
ProCam - Pro Camera