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Laser47

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Jan 8, 2004
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marchcapital said:
i wish i had someone to teach me how to install os x on a pc so i could dual boot...any suggestions? is there any sites that have a step by step process?
http://www.osx86project.org/
The Only Problems with this is a) Its illegal since the only way to obtain the version that will run on PC's is by downloading it off the net. b) Its against apples User Agreement since it says it must be installed on an 'apple branded computer'
 

howesey

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Dec 3, 2005
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DavidLeblond said:
Microsoft is a software company.

Apple makes most of their money on hardware.

BMW could switch to Microsoft's business model as well, but I don't think that would help them now would it?
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howesey

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Dec 3, 2005
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jefhatfield said:
geez, i knew i heard something on abc radio today ;)

first we had macs switch to ibm processors when people feared the ny company, then intel's usb on macs - ouch!!, then universal motherboard architecture for macs, then microsoft office for macs, then os x on intel, and now...what many feared, microsoft windows on macs

i actually like the idea and though i can dual boot now on my mactel imac, i will spend most of the time in os x anyway...but now i have the option to run both operating systems natively
I hate to break it to you, Microsoft Office has been on Mac's far longer than it has on Windows. Word wasn't on Windows till version 2, and Excel wasn't till version 3.
 

jefhatfield

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howesey said:
I hate to break it to you, Microsoft Office has been on Mac's far longer than it has on Windows. Word wasn't on Windows till version 2, and Excel wasn't till version 3.

i meant the later versions...you know, the cute little yellow diskie thingy that made a lot of mac faithful go ballistic ;)

...i think in 98 or 99 and i thought it was cool but i had to keep quiet...over here in northern california and all!!
 

jefhatfield

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howesey said:
yellow diskie thingy?

I just remember Mr. Clippit.

disc meaning the packaging...it looked like a little yellow flying saucer and it contained microsoft office for mac :)

initially there was fierce resistance to it since it was a huge debut of a microsoft product and it was after the famous investment bill gates made into apple during a very weak time for the company...some thought bill gates was poised to swallow up apple

at the local college here, microsoft and jansport (backpacks) were offering their $99 dollar jansport backpack to students with the microsoft office suite for studnents for free...either mac or pc format...it was a bold move and it looked like microsoft was really pushing this office product very hard

about a year or two later, i noticed many mac users, who swore to have no microsoft products, with the microsoft office suite ;)
 

Josh

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Mar 4, 2004
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andiwm2003 said:
that is certainly true. but we're talking about apple. they don't sell nearly enough software in the moment to make up for a drop in hardware sales. they high margin is software is certainly a reason why we see apple releasing lots of software recently (ilife, iwork, aperture....).
i still doubt that apple could make it without the hardware sales (at the current time!).

also one thing that we should not forget. apple not only sells hard and software they also sell an image. like harley davidson. take away one part and you might lose the overall image of the company in the puplic.

That's a good point, and I think it further drives the idea behind Job's statement, "It's all about the software," and that OS X on everything is very possible/likely.

Another thing to consider, is that it is often mistakenly claimed that Apple sells more computers than they do software. This isn't true at all.

This is simply because you cannot, under any circumstances, buy a computer from Apple that is void of all software. Every Apple computer purchased is one purchase of OS X, and one purchase of iLife as well. Those don't come "free" per se; Apple works the price into the total package.

So every time anyone buys a Mac, they are also buying OS X and iLife. Every Apple computer sale contains at least 2 software sales.

And people buy new software much more frequently than they buy new computers. No one buys a new Mac every year or every other year to run the same old OS 10.3. They buy one Mac, and keep buying new versions of OS X, iLife, and other misc. Apple software.

There are people buying Tiger for old G4's.

Once you consider that every computer sale is at least 2 software sales, plus most people tend to upgrade and buy more software later, at the very minimum, for everyone 1 Mac sold, there are 2 softwares sold; I'd estimate the average user upgrading once, and buying one extra peice of software from Apple. That's 4 softwares for 1 Mac.

Even at bare minimum, Apple sells twice as much software as they do computers. Factor in the much higher profit margins, and it's easy to see that they not only sell more software, but they also make more profit in doing so.

Apple is not a hardware company. They use the software to force a hardware sale.
 

jefhatfield

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Josh said:
That's a good point, and I think it further drives the idea behind Job's statement, "It's all about the software," and that OS X on everything is very possible/likely.

Another thing to consider, is that it is often mistakenly claimed that Apple sells more computers than they do software. This isn't true at all.

This is simply because you cannot, under any circumstances, buy a computer from Apple that is void of all software. Every Apple computer purchased is one purchase of OS X, and one purchase of iLife as well. Those don't come "free" per se; Apple works the price into the total package.

So every time anyone buys a Mac, they are also buying OS X and iLife. Every Apple computer sale contains at least 2 software sales.

And people buy new software much more frequently than they buy new computers. No one buys a new Mac every year or every other year to run the same old OS 10.3. They buy one Mac, and keep buying new versions of OS X, iLife, and other misc. Apple software.

There are people buying Tiger for old G4's.

Once you consider that every computer sale is at least 2 software sales, plus most people tend to upgrade and buy more software later, at the very minimum, for everyone 1 Mac sold, there are 2 softwares sold; I'd estimate the average user upgrading once, and buying one extra peice of software from Apple. That's 4s software for 1 Mac.

Even at bare minimum, Apple sells twice as much software as they do computers. Factor in the much higher profit margins, and it's easy to see that they not only sell more software, but they also make more profit in doing so.

Apple is not a hardware company. They use the software to force a hardware sale.

great logic

however,

many, many mac users go with emotions and hate things like logic and numbers...it just involves too much stategery in their thinking
 

macpastor

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Mar 22, 2006
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Leave the OS X on Apple

I wouldn't want to disgrace the Apple OS by running it on a PC. If they ever do that, then I know the apocalypse is coming quickly.
 
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