Thanks for your reply.
I hate streaming contents so I may never know the fact.
And iTunes match will not only destroy my fine tuned library metadata, but also locks my account in one region for a whole year at least. Either is intolerable.
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iTunes Match and Apple Music
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Thanks for your reply.
I hate streaming contents so I may never know the fact.
And iTunes match will not only destroy my fine tuned library metadata, but also locks my account in one region for a whole year at least. Either is intolerable.
Yes, Shiraski, what I said WAS correct - but I was unclear in how I explained. Just be sure you DO NOT delete any iTunes Match songs locally - because if you download from Apple Music, you will get a DRM song. Worst - Apple Music is randomly renaming my artists and using wrong album covers now. It really is garbage software and I wish I could downgrade. I hope someone comes up with a method to safely downgrade to the previous version. One thing that did work for me - I copied an older version of my iTunes Library .itl file to recover from some of the horror. If you get all screwed up - perhaps that will help you, too. We'll have to wait until Apple gets enough complaints to fix this garbage.
FWIW, I have been using iTunes Match since 2012 and not once has it changed meta data on my songs on its own. The only problem (more like annoyance) I ever had was that occasionally album artwork had trouble syncing to mobile devices. The renamed "iCloud Music Library" in iTunes 12.2 still works fine for me. Now Apple Music seems to introduce some new bugs though, which is why I'll wait a bit before signing up for the trial.
More, and much more.
Someone says apple internal employees quit apple music service due to endless bugs and nearly unusable service.
I THOUGHT apple would listen to user feedback and wrap up. Now, they just dig up a huge hole, waiting for us to jump in. I am smart enough not to jumping in, and surely apple die-hard would help me to complete this job.
You know, if I don't read post, I may never know you have mentioned my ID.
Seems you forget another option from the beginning: you can choose not to use it.
I have been told many times iTunes match is horrible. And I have seen low quality of tags for Japanese songs in iTunes store.
So, I may update to the latest version of the iOS, but I will use whatever possible to disable everything related to Apple music.
I still retain my local iTunes library, although, I have dealt with damaged iTunes library on my phone many times. Sometimes iTunes will not remove all songs previously synced if I sync from a different library. Then I end up with destroying phone library before syncing. And some other times, I need to fight with NTFS support on Mac because if windows chkdsk utility repairs my disk, I will need to deal with massive amount of exclamation marks, since those songs are moved away from iTunes library folder.
I use iTunes because third party apps may do something in unusual way. I don't expect apple will wrap up their iTunes business since billions of Chinese will buy their iPhone and iPad and apple watch and use their own tencent music, Baidu music, and youku video, for their personal use. Apple just only need to grab money from Chinese citizens, and that is all. They can waste money on American customers. That is fine, for current apple.
I am relieved Match has survived, for now at least, the overhaul. However, I cannot find Match in iTunes on Mac, or anywhere in iOS. I followed the rather clunky directions to go to the iTunes Store on Mac and, again, turn on my Match account but it's not working---it just gets tied up and goes nowhere. It's not fun that iTunes Match no longer has an On/Off option in the iTunes top bar. It seems Apple finds iTunes Match and Apple Music redundant, though they're not. (As a Classical music enthusiast there are tens of thousands of albums simply not available on iTunes US store and I love Match, despite its lack of reliability.)
Not sure what you are trying to achieve. You can turn off the iCloud Music Library in the preferences. This will also turn off iTunes Match (which is essentially part of the iCloud library). The old "Account/Update iTunes Match" has moved to "File/Library/Update iCloud Music Library" in iTunes. If you want to check your Match subscription status, go to Account Info.
If you are a classical music enthusiast, you should not use iTunes Match because it will just destroy all those metadata you have created, and replace it with iTunes own. This is from other members in this forum.
Not sure if you've used iTunes Match. There used to be an icon that allowed me to download songs I had sent to Match (in possibly higher than original quality). It also used to tell me how many songs were "matched," but, like I wrote, that seems to be freezing after I sign-in to Match via iTunes Store. There used to be a switch: "Turn On Match" and that is gone. It seems to me Apple is has is preparing to kill Match. I know the feature may seem redundant but for listeners of Classical music and jazz, where the iTunes Store catalogue is not nearly (by tens of thousands) complete. Licensing issues, for instance, make some recordings available only in Japan or Germany, and thousands of recordings are long out of print just about anywhere. Match, despite its hiccups, has been a great solution for libraries reaching 25000 tracks (not unusual for Classical). iCloud is basically crap, until Apple has a dedicated iOS iCloud app (which, to access music, adds to clunkiness) like Google Drive. (I'm well aware iOS 9 will catch up to Google Drive in this regard, but I'm not expecting it to be a streamlined option for music files like Match has been).
With Apple Music, you can download things you have uploaded, but, they will be DRM encumbered. With iTunes Match, they will not be.
That's the main functional difference.
With Apple Music, when you download something you are not really downloading it in the classic sense but more as a local cache, which is why the verbiage is "make available offline.' With iTunes Match, you're downloading a DRM free, high quality version.
iTunes Match does compliment Apple Music for those who want to use the cloud service as a bidirectional music library storage facility, not just a remote access facility.
That's the main functional difference.
With Apple Music, when you download something you are not really downloading it in the classic sense but more as a local cache, which is why the verbiage is "make available offline.' With iTunes Match, you're downloading a DRM free, high quality version.
iTunes Match does compliment Apple Music for those who want to use the cloud service as a bidirectional music library storage facility, not just a remote access facility.
I'm an iTunes Match subscriber and my only complaint so far is that Apple should have continued to make it clear that I in fact have iTunes Match and can download my matched songs. iTunes 12.2 has eliminated any references to iTunes Match which just adds confusion. The only way to confirm I have it is to look at my account settings or download a matched song and confirm its not DRM'ed. Since they really are separate (and perhaps complementary), Apple should have continued to give iTunes Match a 'visual presence' in iTunes.
Well it has a visual presence in iOS which is Apple's primary platform by a huge margin now. Maybe iTunes will get a fix soon. Since this all came in a .2 update, there's a decent chance a bigger change is due to come along with OS X El Capitan, similar to how it's expected that the max songs limit will be raised to 100k with iOS 9. Perhaps this will make more sense then.
What is the visual presence in iOS? How can one tell they have iTunes Match and not just Apple Music tracks added to My Music?
The icons are still there. Switch to "Songs" view and turn on the columns "iCloud Download" and "iCloud Status".
Turning on iCloud Music Library in the preferences does the same thing if you are a Match subscriber.
I don't think so. There is a sign-up link in the Account menu for people who are not signed up yet.
I think you misunderstand what iCloud Music Library actually is (which is mostly Apple's fault because they just dumped the new terminology on users without explaining it).
Not for me. I have call out for Apple Music and iCloud Music Library. Nothing about iTunes Match.
You are WRONG
in my case, Apple music didn't change my previous library I had with iTunes Match. However for new music I add to my library, about half of the songs are matched as before but the other half is matched to Apple music Sources. So if I add a song to my laptop, then open iTunes in my iMac server abad click the download cloud button I get a drm file instead of the file I own. In essence iTunes has STOLEN my music and has tied my ownership to an Apple music subscription.
I'm curious: on the primary computer that still has the originals, what is the iCloud status of the files that come down as Apple Music on the other computer?
As an aside, since you still have your original tracks, Apple hasn't really stolen anything from you.
As an aside, since you still have your original tracks, Apple hasn't really stolen anything from you.
I just tried this on my two computers. Mac A, source computer, new album added. Start iTunes on Mac B. Find album just added. Download a track from that album. Track is a m4a file. No DRM.
Not sure what to say, but I am not having the issue you are describing, which means there may be something unique to your situation causing it to happen.
EDIT: On your second computer, what does iTunes show as the cloud status of the file? Does it show as 'Matched', or something else?
EDIT 2: Try this on your slave/second computer: turn off both Apple Music and IML. Then enable *just* IML. find the tracks that were downloaded as Apple Music and remove the offline download. Now try again to download the song. What happens?
Not sure what to say, but I am not having the issue you are describing, which means there may be something unique to your situation causing it to happen.
EDIT: On your second computer, what does iTunes show as the cloud status of the file? Does it show as 'Matched', or something else?
EDIT 2: Try this on your slave/second computer: turn off both Apple Music and IML. Then enable *just* IML. find the tracks that were downloaded as Apple Music and remove the offline download. Now try again to download the song. What happens?
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You miss the point. With iTunes Match we ceased to have a "primary" or "secondary" computers since the library was always the same and as sub the "primary" library lives in iCloud and not in any computer.
Answering to your question, the iCloud status in the computer where I added the song shows "Apple Music" for about half the tunes, and "Matched" for the other half.
Regarding the act of stealing or not. I'm tech-savvy. I knew what to look for. Imagine the thousands who don't know better. They will lose their own music due to either a huge bug or a huge oversight on apples part.
Status shows matched for about half and Apple music for the other half.
All songs come from the same source so I'm guessing this is a bug with the marching algorithm.
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iTunes Match and IML are not cloud backups. It's likely one will always have a primary source computer that has all the music you own.
In regards to your issue, it is strange that on your source computer it is showing as Apple Music. I just added a few albums and all show as Matched or Uploaded. On other computer all download correctly as M4A files. Something is going on with your situation/setup.
In iTunes there are two separate settings, one for Apple Music and one for iCloud Music Library.
I'm trying to help you sort out the issue. Why be argumentative? Main point is that with iTunes Match, matched songs are *not* downloaded with DRM. Why that is happening for you is what I'm trying to help you sort out.
Did you try turning off IML on the second computer, re-enable, delete Apple Music offline tracks and then try downloading again?
Did you try turning off IML on the second computer, re-enable, delete Apple Music offline tracks and then try downloading again?
There's not option to turn off Apple music, the setting is only to hide it. But even if hidden it remains active.