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rendez2k

macrumors 6502
Sep 17, 2008
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If I can get my hands on it cheaply, I guess I'll treat it as a kind of demo. I was reluctant to spend £15 on something I couldn't try but $5 (or probably £2.79) is fine.
 

Rojo

macrumors 65816
Sep 26, 2006
1,328
241
Barcelona
I don't think there would be an upgrade cost, when an upgrade is published for an application you've paid for in the past it doesn't care what you paid for it. It just knows you've purchased it on your iTunes account and therefore are entitled to the upgrade. I could be wrong here but someone else could chime in also.

You're right. This is how it works now.
But the developer's e-mail, which you can read here in this thread, states that you will be charged the $20 difference if you ever try and re-download the app after the sale ends. How is that even possible?!? Doe this happen for every other app that's temporarily gone down in price? I don't think so - so why would it happen for this one? Very strange - unless the developer is just highly mistaken...
 

pyrodex

macrumors 6502a
Jul 10, 2008
513
9
Atlanta, GA
You're right. This is how it works now.
But the developer's e-mail, which you can read here in this thread, states that you will be charged the $20 difference if you ever try and re-download the app after the sale ends. How is that even possible?!? Doe this happen for every other app that's temporarily gone down in price? I don't think so - so why would it happen for this one? Very strange - unless the developer is just highly mistaken...

I don't think that is possible with iTunes, think about it. You buy Application X and then lose your copy somehow (system crash whatever), you go back in to iTunes authorize you account and click the buy button again and it states your upgrade is free you've you had bought it in the past. I am no AppStore expert but this is coming from personal experience so someone could maybe as a developer who has sold applications back me up on this?
 

plumbingandtech

macrumors 68000
Jun 20, 2007
1,993
1
But the developer's e-mail, which you can read here in this thread, states that you will be charged the $20 difference if you ever try and re-download the app after the sale ends. How is that even possible?!?


Agreed. How is this possible? (like he other posters said what about redownloading for a restore etc.)

If this is true, then he can sell it for a buck and the developer can go take a hike. I bought his POS 1 dollar version and never could upgrade it since he yanked it from the store.

I hope apple does not allow this sleazy type action to occur on their store. I will wait a while for a confirm and go telling the developer to go take a hike.
 

pyrodex

macrumors 6502a
Jul 10, 2008
513
9
Atlanta, GA
Agreed. How is this possible? (like he other posters said what about redownloading for a restore etc.)

If this is true, then he can sell it for a buck and the developer can go take a hike. I bought his POS 1 dollar version and never could upgrade it since he yanked it from the store.

I hope apple does not allow this sleazy type action to occur on their store. I will wait a while for a confirm and go telling the developer to go take a hike.

After thinking about this the ONLY way I could see it being done is if they rename the application in the AppStore. Much like NetShare for people who were lucky to get it are stuck with it, IE if they lose the IPA they are at a loss.
 

plumbingandtech

macrumors 68000
Jun 20, 2007
1,993
1
Ok. Good comments. Thank you both.


Yah. Maybe clueless is a better word. As that whole one dollar version that a) did not allow mouse clicks and b) was then given away free and then c) was yanked by the developer altogether showed he really may be doing a posting things out of cluelessness more then anything.
 

Rojo

macrumors 65816
Sep 26, 2006
1,328
241
Barcelona
After thinking about this the ONLY way I could see it being done is if they rename the application in the AppStore. Much like NetShare for people who were lucky to get it are stuck with it, IE if they lose the IPA they are at a loss.

But if he renames the app, doesn't he screw everyone who bought the app at $25 with updates too? Wouldn't they have to be charged as well? I could see him trying to offer the $5 version as a separate app that doesn't get updated -- but then he wouldn't be able to time it's arrival in the App Store so precisely. Either way, this doesn't make much sense...

Apple doesn't support paid updates yet, but inevitably they will. A hint is in the text for 'Download all free updates', rather than just all updates.

That's not necessarily a hint that possible future updates will cost something. I take that text to mean any updates you perform are free, despite what cost they might say otherwise. Many people are confused by the fact that updates are always free, and some fear they will be charged again. I'm taking this as Apple reinforcing to us that the updates are, indeed, free.

Even if there IS a way for the developer to charge for updates for Jaadu VNC, I'm still going to get it at the $5 price. Sleazy, yes -- but the program is too good a deal at that cheap a cost...
 

rizajj

macrumors member
Jul 17, 2008
87
0
Methinks there will be a 2.0 version coming out soon...hence charging $5 for 1.2. I'm guessing everyone will have to pay for the new version (maybe it will stream sound over to the iPhone as well, that alone will make the upgrade/re-buy worth it to some people).

anyway that's my hunch.
 

hogfaninga

macrumors 65816
Aug 16, 2008
1,305
0
Chestnut Tree Cafe
The developer did say that if you upgrade then they won't charge you the full amount. They will subtract the original $5 you already paid. Regardless, this version as it is, is worth $5 easily. My friend has it and paid $25. Even at that price it is worth it for many. I can't wait to get it and I will worry about the additional cost to upgrade later if I decide the upgrade is worth it(if he can do it--some of you say he can't).
 

OneMike

macrumors 603
Oct 19, 2005
5,832
1,810
Will have to see how updates go but at price may get.

In reference to charging for updates I don't think there is a problem with that as most software does this at some point. However, the question for me would be at what points do you decide it's time to charge.

Currently updates are free though so other then changing app name not sure how Dev will implement
 

Rojo

macrumors 65816
Sep 26, 2006
1,328
241
Barcelona
In reference to charging for updates I don't think there is a problem with that as most software does this at some point. However, the question for me would be at what points do you decide it's time to charge.

Currently updates are free though so other then changing app name not sure how Dev will implement

Apple simply needs to change the system to allow for charged updates then. Though I have a feeling this isn't going to happen any time soon -- as they're going to want to make things as less complicated as possible, and right now having free updates for everything is the easiest way to go.

Unfortunately that means devs are going to try and figure out ways around that in order to charge people for upgrades -- and there's no smooth way of doing it. Adding a brand new app to the store just makes things confusing. Devs should have the option to just charge a smaller "upgrade" fee for people who already bought the app, while only new people would be charged the full price. Otherwise people who bought the app from the beginning will always have to repay the full price for every update -- which is going to cause resentment for early buyers.
 

bluelondon

macrumors regular
Jul 17, 2008
204
0
sorry but what exactly do these VNC apps do? are they like a portal to our PCs?

do our home computers have to remain running and online for us to have access to them and what programs can we or can't we run through our iphones once we are connected to them?

i just don't get the main use of this app, like is it just so we have access to our home files and so on?
 

angels lust

macrumors member
Sep 11, 2008
81
0
I'm glad I saw this thread, I almost bought it yesterday, but the $25 price tag kept putting me off.

For $5 it's worth it, as I doubt it'll be something I use all the time. :)
 

jaseone

macrumors 65816
Nov 7, 2004
1,246
59
Houston, USA
sorry but what exactly do these VNC apps do? are they like a portal to our PCs?

You setup your firewall to route VNC traffic from the internet to your Mac/PC that runs a VNC Server, (which on it's own is relatively insecure as any traffic isn't sent encrypted but going into things like SSH tunneling would over complicate this description), then you need to know the external IP of your Mac/PC or use one of the dynamic IP providers. Then using a VNC client on your iPhone such as this one you can connect to your Mac/PC as long as it is running, this would then display your Mac/PC's desktop on your iPhone.

You can then scroll/zoom the screen and interact with your Mac/PC as you would normally, personally I only see a limited use for that with personal computers, I guess so you could do things like setup/monitor bit torrent downloads and the like. It is much more useful for those of us that administer servers, although for that I use iSSH for my Linux boxes and WinAdmin for my Windows boxes so VNC isn't much use even to me.
 

bluelondon

macrumors regular
Jul 17, 2008
204
0
You setup your firewall to route VNC traffic from the internet to your Mac/PC that runs a VNC Server, (which on it's own is relatively insecure as any traffic isn't sent encrypted but going into things like SSH tunneling would over complicate this description), then you need to know the external IP of your Mac/PC or use one of the dynamic IP providers. Then using a VNC client on your iPhone such as this one you can connect to your Mac/PC as long as it is running, this would then display your Mac/PC's desktop on your iPhone.

You can then scroll/zoom the screen and interact with your Mac/PC as you would normally, personally I only see a limited use for that with personal computers, I guess so you could do things like setup/monitor bit torrent downloads and the like. It is much more useful for those of us that administer servers, although for that I use iSSH for my Linux boxes and WinAdmin for my Windows boxes so VNC isn't much use even to me.

thanks jaseone. even for $5 i doubt i'd ever use this app.
 

Crevice

macrumors regular
Sep 3, 2008
128
0
I think everyone here is missing the point of this application. Voyeurism! If you have a macbook with an iSight, you are in for some awesome shows. Simply invite some friends over, if you are guy make sure they are girls. Turn on your iSight, and let them change in the room where your laptop is! Then turn on this app on your phone, and BOOM!!!! INSTANT ACCESS!!!!!!! Yes I know, that's sick and perverted, but it was an accident. It may be hard since they will probably catch on to the fact that they are on the iSight since they will see themselves on the lap top, but its worth a shot. If that doesn't work you can easily read anybody's email if you let them use your computer and you have this app.
 

179202

Cancelled
Apr 14, 2008
939
217
I think everyone here is missing the point of this application. Voyeurism! If you have a macbook with an iSight, you are in for some awesome shows. Simply invite some friends over, if you are guy make sure they are girls. Turn on your iSight, and let them change in the room where your laptop is! Then turn on this app on your phone, and BOOM!!!! INSTANT ACCESS!!!!!!! Yes I know, that's sick and perverted, but it was an accident. It may be hard since they will probably catch on to the fact that they are on the iSight since they will see themselves on the lap top, but its worth a shot. If that doesn't work you can easily read anybody's email if you let them use your computer and you have this app.

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