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phlabse

macrumors newbie
Nov 1, 2007
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Hey everyone,

I'm in need of some serious help. I'm a college student with an iPod Touch. We have wifi over campus but the security is pretty tight as far as accessing router information.

I can't connect this program to my mac and I really don't know how to approach it.

Any advice would be great, thanks in advance.
 

arn

macrumors god
Staff member
Apr 9, 2001
16,395
5,836
In regards to charging the difference if it's re-downloaded. This counts for UPDATES as well, you will be charged the difference for updates according to the blurb in the UK Store. I was gonna download that as well...

My understanding is that's not how the App Store works. I thought that no matter what happens to the price later on, updates and redownloads should be free.

(Disclaimer: I am not a registered developer, so it's possible I might not be aware of the details)

arn
 

rendez2k

macrumors 6502
Sep 17, 2008
447
0
Well, I've gone ahead and purchased for £2.99. It works great over my home wi-fi but over 3G I keep getting a "The server closed the connection' error. I assume the address field in the settings is you're PCs ip address or is it the router address?
 

LostLogik

macrumors 6502a
Jul 9, 2008
701
4
Well, I've gone ahead and purchased for £2.99. It works great over my home wi-fi but over 3G I keep getting a "The server closed the connection' error. I assume the address field in the settings is you're PCs ip address or is it the router address?

this sounds like the standard message you get when your router hasn't been set up to forward the ports you need. VNC requires you to forward the 5500, (and 5800 and 5900?) ports. Read the set up instructions to find out more.
 

angels lust

macrumors member
Sep 11, 2008
81
0
Okay well I got it and while it's great I had some problems.

For one, I am running Vista 64. Jaadu Connect doesn't even install with it for some reason, so I had to do it the manual way. Then there was a Vista refresh driver, but that won't install either. The only thing I got working was the TightVNC server, and because I've done this before (just not on an iPod) I knew what I was doing, but still... I'm glad I didn't pay $25 for this.

Quick question for those with Windows PCs, is there a way to make it refresh quicker? I've seen videos where people can stream Youtube videos and it works flawless. Where as for me it refreshes every 5 seconds. Kind of annoying.
 

rendez2k

macrumors 6502
Sep 17, 2008
447
0
Well, I can't work it out. I think its maybe my ESET firewall blocking it from connecting but I've tried every setting and IP address I can find! I've disabled the routers firewall also - still no joy. Maybe time to see how good support is....
 

afd

macrumors 65816
Apr 12, 2005
1,141
395
Scotland
any one know how secure the Jaadu Connect app is? Am I opening my mac up to hacking attacks, or is it pretty safe?
 

bigandy

macrumors G3
Apr 30, 2004
8,852
7
Murka
That can't be right. That's not how the App Store works. No matter what happens to the price later on, all updates and redownloads should be free.

arn

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I bought it anyway. I could do with it, and £2.99 seems better than £14.99.
 

atiffarooq

macrumors 6502a
May 27, 2006
645
607
Just a quick heads up to any new users. I was connecting fine to my MacBook using WiFi, but when I went to connect using 3G or EDGE it wouldn't connect and kept saying that there was a problem with the connection (or something like that). I downloaded Jaadu Connect and this automatically seemed to resolve the issue :D.
I recommend it to anyone still having problems connecting.
 

Sweetbike40

macrumors 65816
Aug 29, 2007
1,100
0
NY/NJ
Note: If you re-download or if there is an update, you will be charged the difference. Everything has a catch.
 

Fidgetyrat

macrumors 6502
Jan 29, 2008
273
237
I'm concerned about the fine print..

"If you re-download this app or an update you will be charged the difference..


No updates? Sounds a little harsh.
 

Manatee

Contributor
Oct 20, 2003
596
169
Washington DC
I bought it at full price, and I feel that was good value for the quality of the application. If you don't have it yet, and can think of any reason you might want it, get it now!

Now I'll wait patiently for Acura to sell the MDX I'm craving for $10k for a day. :)
 

Keyhole

macrumors member
Jul 11, 2008
77
0
Can someone who has both Mocha and Jaadu give an opinion on whether Jaadu is worth getting? (now that it is $4.99, i guess so, but would still like a good comparison before buying)

...Mocha (free) seems to do everything I really need,... is Jaadu that much better? THANKS

Jaadu is 100x better than Mocha. Mocha was borderline unuseable, but Jaadu's refresh rate is awesome.
 

sanford

macrumors 65816
Jan 5, 2003
1,265
0
Dallas, USA
Purchased!! Its awesome!!!

Yeah, beauty, eye, beholder.

Someone asked about the difference between this and the Jaadu VNC Lite already available for US$4.99. The other $5 version was not really a "lite" version of the product, but strictly a paid demo. No keystrokes, no mouse-clicks; all you could do was scroll around. Woo. (I think it's free now, however.)

I encourage anyone with a Mac, Leopard, and mere curiosity, or irregular needs on local 802.11x network, and fairly limited needs over EDGE/3G, to look at Mocha VNC Lite instead. Mocha VNC Lite is free now, free for at least the next update -- they could start charging for updates, but they have a premium product, so it's not likely for fixes and enhancements of the "lite" feature set. And of course free to download again if you somehow delete it w/o b/u on your Mac. (I say Mac owners, because I believe in order to use Mocha VNC Lite on a Windows machine you have to buy into at least some level of a Windows VNC client, though not necessarily Mocha's. For a Mac, Mocha Lite uses standard VNC, as does Leopard's "screen sharing" features: the VNC software you need to use Mocha VNC Lite is already built into your Mac.)

Mocha VNC Lite is speedy enough over local networks, and about painfully slow over EDGE/3G -- but not as painful as having critical need to start something on your Mac before you went out and having no means whatsoever by which to do that once you're out. Again, it's free.

As for Jaadu, the developers do not have to snatch back their US$20 when you update or re-download. This is their choice. I've bought at discount and downloaded free "first 1,000 [or whatever]" full versions of App Store apps, with free updates and re-downloads just as if I'd paid full price in the first place. Updates can be free or paid, as can future re-downloads. This is a rather disingenuous offer as any bug fix or the tiniest dot update results in scrupulous care NOT to update Jaadu, or you're inadvertently dinged US$20.

Note that US$25 is a rather outrageous price by App Store terms -- considering Mac purchasers are paying for development of a Windows client they don't need. Note also an original US$5 for nothing but a hobbled demo, w/o even an equal discount on a later full purchase. Note also this "update and you get hit for the difference" thing. It's not completely kosher. This is a bit of what happens when most of your developer community at launch were off-hours dabblers doing things with your platform you specifically forbade them do until the release of the SDK. You're going to get some characters not fully acquainted with ethical business practices. Before long this will shakeout to the truly talented off-hours dabblers with some sense on top of it, and all the rest of the dreck iPhone app developers, who will just fall on their faces.

(In partial defense of Jaadu's developers, it is one of the few non-gaming, paid apps on the App Store that actually does anything worth paying for, albeit limited to those who really need its features.)
 

Fidgetyrat

macrumors 6502
Jan 29, 2008
273
237
Feels like a cheap way to get their app higher in the app store listings. Having people shell out the full value at the slightest update is pretty ****** in my opinion. This is less of a discount and more of a demo.
 

hogfaninga

macrumors 65816
Aug 16, 2008
1,305
0
Chestnut Tree Cafe
I have used Mocha and this one is much better. As far as the upgrades/future downloads costing money. I will take the advice of the owner of this site (who posted earlier in this thread about it) and believe they won't be able to do that because of how Apple set it up. All they can do is change the name and re-apply for a new app.. Then I guess they can do it. I doubt they will go to that much trouble. Either way for $5 it is a great price and works as advertised. Set up was a breeze for me.
 

njpodder

macrumors regular
Sep 13, 2007
111
0
Horrible refresh and resolution

Well, it took me a long time to get everything set up properly, but it was neat to play around with once I did. I am running Windows XP PC, and on the iPhone screen, the refresh rate is horribly slow, can't stream video or anything like that, but the part that bugs me even more is the resolution. All my colors are off, the screen looks horrible. Is this something I can just set up differently somewhere to fix?
 

sanford

macrumors 65816
Jan 5, 2003
1,265
0
Dallas, USA
I have used Mocha and this one is much better. As far as the upgrades/future downloads costing money. I will take the advice of the owner of this site (who posted earlier in this thread about it) and believe they won't be able to do that because of how Apple set it up. All they can do is change the name and re-apply for a new app.. Then I guess they can do it. I doubt they will go to that much trouble. Either way for $5 it is a great price and works as advertised. Set up was a breeze for me.

I get what arn is say, but I don't know of any mechanism in the App Store to prevent charging for updates. I rather think it would serve both Apple and the developers to have a mechanism for charging for some updates. In fact, by virtue of the fact you have to use your password and accept a purchase agreement to re-download on your iPhone, I think this points to the fact there is indeed a mechanism for providing paid upgrades. Just because we haven't seen any yet, you know the App Store is just a couple months old... Almost no one with any concept of a software business model is going to launch an application and then sell a paid upgrade just a couple months later. This turns off the existing customer base and causes future customers to perhaps look elsewhere for similar solutions.

Frankly, it makes more sense at this point to take the word of the developer, who took the effort to EXPLICITLY state, as in fair warning, that any re-download or update, prompted or otherwise, will results in the customer being charged the delta between the discounted price and full price. Arn is extrapolating what he knows about how the App Store works, but the developer is clearly instructing you that you will be charged that price delta if you download the same or later versions of the app in future.
 
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