I agree, been there, done that. What a waste of valuable time. Get with the program, jail breaking the iPhone is past history, relegated to the nostalgia bin of life.
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JailBreak 1.1.3 Completed!
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What about the unlocking apps? I guess the SDK won't allow for those...and the same may go for apps that use the motion sensor or other features...
Maybe for you, but for me, having access to the entire phone (not just via iTunes as Apple wants us to) is invaluable. For example, I like having the freedom to turn on AFP (with Bonjour), and quickly throw a podcast I've downloaded at work onto the phone which I can access via Safari and the small webserver I have running locally. I do exactly this probably once a week. Do you think that would be a usage that Apple will allow? Possibly, but I'm guessing not.
Sure there might be some really cool apps available once the SDK is out and all the larger companies come out with their apps, but with a jailbroken 1.1.4 (or I guess it will be 1.2?) you'll be able to run all those AND have access to the "unofficial" apps as well (AFP, IM, VoIP, etc). So I support the delay in releasing the jailbreak in this case, as it is not much use firing off what could be your last round (each jailbreak gets harder and harder as Apple locks it down slowly) when we have a known date (late feb) for what could be a major firmware change.
That's still a pretty silly gamble. There's a fair chance that it'll be patched anyway, and then what? Even if they don't actively patch it, there's no guarantee that it'll behave the same way under 1.1.4 in the first place.
There's not a lot of point to sitting on it, except that the hackers are getting lazy and don't want to keep up anymore.
Maybe the Jailbreak requires the SDK 
Who says the SDK will bring a new 1.1.4 update?
Also for those wondering, I don't think it's safe to update to 1.1.3 and assume that once the Jailbreak is released you won't have to downgrade. No one knows what the Jailbreak does, but it's safe to assume it's probably not another .tiff exploit (that was pot luck with 1.1.1).
Who says the SDK will bring a new 1.1.4 update?Also for those wondering, I don't think it's safe to update to 1.1.3 and assume that once the Jailbreak is released you won't have to downgrade. No one knows what the Jailbreak does, but it's safe to assume it's probably not another .tiff exploit (that was pot luck with 1.1.1).
The thing with the SDK is, I doubt Apple will allow developers to run rampant with the iPhone as they already have. This includes:
* Unlocking
* Toggling services on/off
* Access to process lists
* Complete customization of everything
* Emulators
* OpenSSH
To name a few. The SDK will definitely still be sandboxed in some way as opening it up completely would be chaotic.
* Unlocking
* Toggling services on/off
* Access to process lists
* Complete customization of everything
* Emulators
* OpenSSH
To name a few. The SDK will definitely still be sandboxed in some way as opening it up completely would be chaotic.
Even though they are releasing an SDK, if they charge ill be jailbreaking like i always have, and knowing apple they will charge for apps
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I've seen it written somewhere in Internet that apple is going to check every application made with their sdk before releasing it. So they will definatly not allow all applications and especially the ones we might like most won't be approved by apple. Also if apple gets 5 applications from different people that are doing almost the same thing, I doubt apple will approve all of them. So without jailbreaking we would need to stick to what apple allows us to use
I've seen it written somewhere in Internet that apple is going to check every application made with their sdk before releasing it. So they will definatly not allow all applications and especially the ones we might like most won't be approved by apple. Also if apple gets 5 applications from different people that are doing almost the same thing, I doubt apple will approve all of them. So without jailbreaking we would need to stick to what apple allows us to use
Why is that video a proof of a jailbreak?
I could be wrong, but that Installer could just be a Webclip he is draggg around. It shows noc proof that this iPod is jailbroken.
I could be wrong, but that Installer could just be a Webclip he is draggg around. It shows noc proof that this iPod is jailbroken.
That video may not be proof of jailbreak but if you look at the source of the video and the site on the net specifically for the hacking of the iPhone then it is evidence.
It's no gamble at all. If it is indeed patched, jailbreak 1.1.3 will be released when Apple introduces 1.2. What can you possibly lose? Nothing. 1-2 months of easy icon arrangement.
What is there to gain? Apple's SDK open to anyone and unsanctioned software installation.
If it was a webclip, it would have had a x mark where it could be deleted, but it didn't.
My prediction...
Judging by how long it typically takes a new 10.x.y update to crop up after a new OS, I have this feeling that once the SDK drops there will be some bug that requires a 1.1.5 update very shortly after. And when that hits, then Apple will lock the thing back up.
This decision will likely cause the usefulness of the jailbreak to never be realized, as users clamor to upgrade their systems to make use of the new (and likely rather slick) Apple approved installation process.
That said, Apple keeps saying they'll release the SDK in late February. They have yet to say that if all installs must be made via an iTS style interface in iTunes when that would go live...
Judging by how long it typically takes a new 10.x.y update to crop up after a new OS, I have this feeling that once the SDK drops there will be some bug that requires a 1.1.5 update very shortly after. And when that hits, then Apple will lock the thing back up.
This decision will likely cause the usefulness of the jailbreak to never be realized, as users clamor to upgrade their systems to make use of the new (and likely rather slick) Apple approved installation process.
That said, Apple keeps saying they'll release the SDK in late February. They have yet to say that if all installs must be made via an iTS style interface in iTunes when that would go live...
ok so what i want to know is how to jailbreak it. if it has been done, then why doesnt show a video or something telling us how to do it? if someone knows which i know some do, just tell us please
What everyone needs to realize is:
(1) Considering the past work of these guys, I seriously doubt that this is fake.
(2) This is not just a software hack but a combination of a software AND a hardware hack, so this isn't for the faint of heart or the "I put Installer on my iPhone, let me try this hack" kind of folks. So asking to "just release it" ain't going to happen (at least not right away).
(3) This is in the early stages of development so I think everyone needs to have some patience.
(1) Considering the past work of these guys, I seriously doubt that this is fake.
(2) This is not just a software hack but a combination of a software AND a hardware hack, so this isn't for the faint of heart or the "I put Installer on my iPhone, let me try this hack" kind of folks. So asking to "just release it" ain't going to happen (at least not right away).
(3) This is in the early stages of development so I think everyone needs to have some patience.
1.1.3 Jailbreak Requires Hardware Modification???
http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/01/19/breaking-iphoneipod-touch-113-jailbreak-accomplished-not-yet-released-to-public/
What kind of hardware modification could they be talking about?
http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/01/19/breaking-iphoneipod-touch-113-jailbreak-accomplished-not-yet-released-to-public/
What kind of hardware modification could they be talking about?
I had absolutely no interest at all in buying an iphone until I saw my friends jailbroken 1.0.*. Other then syncing great with mac phone alone was no big deal.
With SDK jailbreaking will still be very much alive. Doubt there will be an app available through itunes to allow phone to work with another carrier, continuing to use the free apps available now, etc..
With SDK jailbreaking will still be very much alive. Doubt there will be an app available through itunes to allow phone to work with another carrier, continuing to use the free apps available now, etc..
jailbreak will be relevant if apple forces developers to charge for each app they release. that would be a bad move, but i suppose i would pay $3 to get AIM on my iphone or MMS, as ridicules as it is. i do know that apple will most likely restrict some of what can put on the iphone, so jailbreak will be needed to allow developers to release apps they create that are free.
on the other hand, apple has always tried to foster free third party software by providing the tools needed to create useful software, and i dont understand why they'd change now. but they probably will.
on the other hand, apple has always tried to foster free third party software by providing the tools needed to create useful software, and i dont understand why they'd change now. but they probably will.