iPhone JB'd on 7.0.4 and happy.....what would I gain by going to 7.1.2?

[eelw]

Yeah it will be fine if you restore from a jailbroken backup but not jailbreak yet. I did this last week when Pangu was just released. Updated to 7.1.1 but waited to jailbreak to see what would happen about 7.1.2. My restore has carried jailbreaks from 4.x -> 5.x -> 6.x -> 7.0.4

 

[shenan1982]

Yeah it will be fine if you restore from a jailbroken backup but not jailbreak yet. I did this last week when Pangu was just released. Updated to 7.1.1 but waited to jailbreak to see what would happen about 7.1.2. My restore has carried jailbreaks from 4.x -> 5.x -> 6.x -> 7.0.4

I agree with you, but queue the jailbreak nazis who will tell you you're crazy to not do a fresh restore... hehe

 

[Krafty]

I wouldn't bother.
I'm on 7.0.4 and staying here till iOS 8 is jb.
I have everything setup great now and the few small changes or improvements are not really that important to me.

Same.

Not all my tweaks work on 7.1.2 so I'm good on 7.0.4 for now.

Also, I like full-screen contact photos.

 

[Dj64Mk7]

Easiest and most effective for this jailbreak is simply to plug in and accept the update. It'll retain almost everything except the tweaks.

- Take note of all the tweaks you installed (i just took screen shots of "installed")
(30 seconds)

- Plug in and accept the upgrade message (it'll back up as part of the process)
(5 minutes)

- When done, re-jailbreak All of your apps\music\video\photos\data will remain on the phone and untouched
(2 minutes)

- Open your screen shots of the tweaks you had, and install them all at once (use the queue function, you just queue them all then run the queue so you don't have to re-spring 50 times)
(10 minutes)

So total time you're looking at less than 20 minutes start to finish and your phone will look just like it did prior to the jailbreak. I know many say fresh install is the only way to go, but that's simply not necessary. The benefit of doing the upgrade then jailbreak is that when you reinstall your tweaks you don't have to re-add all your repos, and you don't have to re-set all your tweaks, because the settings for the tweaks transfer from version to version. It's literally a 20 minute TOPS project, and well worth it.

Thanks so much. I have a lot of important data on my phone (like texts, pics, and certain settings) and I was afraid that I would have to lose it all. Thanks.

 

[shenan1982]

Thanks so much. I have a lot of important data on my phone (like texts, pics, and certain settings) and I was afraid that I would have to lose it all. Thanks.

Nope, no cause to worry. It's going to back everything up anyhow, so even if things go awry you can always restore and get it all back...

The one thing I forgot to mention with the update, is at least on my personal devices, I had that issue where the first time it was booting into 7.1.2 it froze and I had to do the home+power button hold trick.... no need to freak out, it's not harmful...

Use this if that happens:

http://www.imore.com/ios-712-update-freezing-you-theres-reboot-fix

 

[Applejuiced]

But it's likely that Apple will drop 7.1.3 patching the JB and stop signing 7.1.2 before all the tweaks are compatible... that's my point... 90% are compatible today... We know this window doesn't last forever. So unless there's a tweak that someone simply can't live without (can't think of one since the critical\most downloaded ones are all updated), they should absolutely update while they can.

I dont know, I doubt they will put out an update for 7.1.3 to just patch the JB before the ios 8GM.
Its not like its a major hole like the jailbreakme.com hacks.
But you're right, its a risk waiting and might be stuck without ever being able to go up to 7.1.2

 

[BR3W]

I just updated iPhone 5, 5s, iPad Air but where is this queu function? I've been jail breaking for years and never saw it :O

 

[mrcowdude20]

Nobody who says "too many important calls bro" has any important calls coming in, let alone calls important enough to warrant not being able to be away for a 30 minute update.

(Check his twitter if you want further evidence he can go 30 minutes without calls, lol)

First off, I don't have a Twitter. Second, why are you looking me up? Third, I don't enjoy watching progress bars slowly move across the screen.

 

[shenan1982]

First off, I don't have a Twitter. Second, why are you looking me up? Third, I don't enjoy watching progress bars slowly move across the screen.

You absolutely have twitter... and it's funny because looking at the comments on here and the comments you make on twitter, IDENTICAL.

Why am I looking you up? To look at your credibility.

Progress bar moving slowly? The update happens in the background (all the while you can make\receive calls) and then when the phone reboots and applies the update, it literally takes 2 minutes. You may want to check the attitude because you're not as important as you think you are, "Mr Cow Dude 20"

You may wane to reconsider numbering your questions. It's not a shopping list.

 

[shenan1982]

I dont know, I doubt they will put out an update for 7.1.3 to just patch the JB before the ios 8GM.
Its not like its a major hole like the jailbreakme.com hacks.
But you're right, its a risk waiting and might be stuck without ever being able to go up to 7.1.2

I agree, but the media hasn't pounced yet... which frankly shocks me. They love to harp on Apple for anything they can, and any exploit can be made to sound severe.

"Apple leaves your phone vulnerable, and someone could be hacking into your personal photos and bank account information on your iPhone RIGHT NOW... more Tonight on the 10 PM News!"

It's poor journalism like that which drives public opinion to force apple to patch issues. I don't know the details about the specific vulnerabilities used in 1.0 and 1.1, but I do know it's not something that's going to allow your phone to be hacked standing in line at Starbucks lol. But if the media catches wind and makes an issue out of it, you better believe Apple will push an update, if nothing else under the guise of something else... maybe a "Wifi enhancement" or "minor bug fixes" update hehe.

I say better safe than sorry. 20 minutes of my time per device today is worth it to ME to not be depressed that I didn't once the window closes....

 

[mrcowdude20]

Nobody who says "too many important calls bro" has any important calls coming in, let alone calls important enough to warrant not being able to be away for a 30 minute update.

(Check his twitter if you want further evidence he can go 30 minutes without calls, lol)

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My biggest concern is like with 6.0 vs 6.1, some developers wrote their apps so that if you were to try to run it on 6.0, it'd pop up saying you have to update to have it work... version spoofers are unreliable at times. So for me it's more protecting against that aspect, along with the fact that it really does make a big difference (vs 7.0.4) for my iPad... scrolling and web pages are so much more smooth.

But yeah, it's a balance of want vs need.... and I don't think anyone needs it, but we should all be prepared for the fact that Apple may release an update in a week to kill it ... and iOS 8 is still months away, and having burned 2 exploits on 7.1.x, it's likely that the JB devs will wait until an 8.0.x release for their jailbreak, if they even have a back-pocket exploit, so we're looking at potentially early 2015 in a best-case scenario... so to me it's worth a little hassle doing an upgrade and pushing ahead the 5 revisions from 7.0.4 to 7.1.2 since it may be some time before I have the opportunity to upgrade without losing the jailbreak.

You absolutely have twitter... and it's funny because looking at the comments on here and the comments you make on twitter, IDENTICAL.

Why am I looking you up? To look at your credibility.

Progress bar moving slowly? The update happens in the background (all the while you can make\receive calls) and then when the phone reboots and applies the update, it literally takes 2 minutes. You may want to check the attitude because you're not as important as you think you are, "Mr Cow Dude 20"

You may wane to reconsider numbering your questions. It's not a shopping list.

Please provide a credible source of my twitter and how it is my IDENTICAL account. My account is named something different from anything cow related.

Why does my life matter to you? Can't I provide an opinion? Why even bother to fight online? What does it bring to you? I'm sorry Shenan, who was born in 1982. You've won the coolness battle.

Please, please, post a youtube video of real-life time showing you restore, download the firmware, update, then jailbreak your phone. If its under two minutes, then you win, I'll buy you dinner wherever you want. Until then, you may "wane" to reconsider the words you use.

 

[shenan1982]

Please provide a credible source of my twitter and how it is my IDENTICAL account. My account is named something different from anything cow related.

Why does my life matter to you? Can't I provide an opinion? Why even bother to fight online? What does it bring to you? I'm sorry Shenan, who was born in 1982. You've won the coolness battle.

Please, please, post a youtube video of real-life time showing you restore, download the firmware, update, then jailbreak your phone. If its under two minutes, then you win, I'll buy you dinner wherever you want. Until then, you may "wane" to reconsider the words you use.

Oh, now you have an account named something else? Two messages ago you claimed to not have a twitter. Funny how that works.

Why should I post a video? If you're not competent to do a basic .x restore, maybe it's best that you don't. My comments were never that it takes 2 minutes to do all of the above, I simply said the actual "upgrade" process in which your phone is offline\unusable takes about 2 minutes.

 

[gotluck]

dont have time to restore your device but you have time for this senseless bickering!?
Arent you missing a call right now?

 

[bobright]

Oh, now you have an account named something else? Two messages ago you claimed to not have a twitter. Funny how that works.

Why should I post a video? If you're not competent to do a basic .x restore, maybe it's best that you don't. My comments were never that it takes 2 minutes to do all of the above, I simply said the actual "upgrade" process in which your phone is offline\unusable takes about 2 minutes.

He's got an iPhone 4 so I could see why it might be a long task lol

 

[Paddle1]

You're really missing out if you don't have 7.1, especially on an iPhone 4. And if you don't have at least 7.0.6 there is a security issue.

You won't regret updating.

 

[Carlanga]

If you are using a 5S then is a definitely recommendation by me to upgrade, better touch id, cache, - crashes, etc etc

 

[maflynn]

[MOD NOTE]
Stop the bickering and stay on topic.

 

[dcpmark]

You're really missing out if you don't have 7.1, especially on an iPhone 4. And if you don't have at least 7.0.6 there is a security issue.

You won't regret updating.

If you are using a 5S then is a definitely recommendation by me to upgrade, better touch id, cache, - crashes, etc etc

Neither of these issues are a concern for me as I have a plain old iPhone 5, and I've installed the stand-alone security patch instead of updating to 7.0.6. And as I've said, I have no issues with smoothness, crashes, or anything.

Seems like there is not much reason for me to upgrade until 8 is jailbroken.

 

[Paddle1]

Neither of these issues are a concern for me as I have a plain old iPhone 5, and I've installed the stand-alone security patch instead of updating to 7.0.6. And as I've said, I have no issues with smoothness, crashes, or anything.

Seems like there is not much reason for me to upgrade until 8 is jailbroken.

You wouldn't know until you install it, iOS 8 is a bit slower, you should enjoy 7.1 while you still can. The patch does not completely patch the issue either.

Anyway, 7.1 is just much better than 7.0.x but you have to use it to understand. If you want to keep 7.0 I guess you'll get to experience it on 8. Not as smooth as 7.1 yet though.

 

[mattkilla]

Easiest and most effective for this jailbreak is simply to plug in and accept the update. It'll retain almost everything except the tweaks.

- Take note of all the tweaks you installed (i just took screen shots of "installed")
(30 seconds)

- Plug in and accept the upgrade message (it'll back up as part of the process)
(5 minutes)

- When done, re-jailbreak All of your apps\music\video\photos\data will remain on the phone and untouched
(2 minutes)

- Open your screen shots of the tweaks you had, and install them all at once (use the queue function, you just queue them all then run the queue so you don't have to re-spring 50 times)
(10 minutes)

So total time you're looking at less than 20 minutes start to finish and your phone will look just like it did prior to the jailbreak. I know many say fresh install is the only way to go, but that's simply not necessary. The benefit of doing the upgrade then jailbreak is that when you reinstall your tweaks you don't have to re-add all your repos, and you don't have to re-set all your tweaks, because the settings for the tweaks transfer from version to version. It's literally a 20 minute TOPS project, and well worth it.

I followed these instructions word for word and I am Jailbroken on 7.1.2 without having to adjust very many settings. The only thing I had to do was go through the actual Jailbreak program(pangu) two times because the first time the cydia app was not showing. Once I got it jailbroke and started installing tweaks , YES they all retained the settings I had put in to them on 7.04 . Even my layouts came back and I only had a few settings to adjust. HELL my iWidgets even put themselves back in the correct spot with the correct settings. Thanks for the process it worked great!

Now , what may be the repercussions of doing it this way and why do the "Jailbreak nazis" not approve of it? For some reason I feel that by not restoring the iPhone and Jailbreaking after updating , that I have in some way left files/data that are not being used but still taking up space on the internal drive. Is this true? I do realize that a restore would probably solve a lot of respring issues if I begin to experience those. But does anyone have any input on leaving dirty/unused files behind by not restoring?

oh and PS 7.1.2 is running much smoother and snappier than 7.0.4

 

[BR3W]

I followed these instructions word for word and I am Jailbroken on 7.1.2 without having to adjust very many settings. The only thing I had to do was go through the actual Jailbreak program(pangu) two times because the first time the cydia app was not showing. Once I got it jailbroke and started installing tweaks , YES they all retained the settings I had put in to them on 7.04 . Even my layouts came back and I only had a few settings to adjust. HELL my iWidgets even put themselves back in the correct spot with the correct settings. Thanks for the process it worked great!

Now , what may be the repercussions of doing it this way and why do the "Jailbreak nazis" not approve of it? For some reason I feel that by not restoring the iPhone and Jailbreaking after updating , that I have in some way left files/data that are not being used but still taking up space on the internal drive. Is this true? I do realize that a restore would probably solve a lot of respring issues if I begin to experience those. But does anyone have any input on leaving dirty/unused files behind by not restoring?

oh and PS 7.1.2 is running much smoother and snappier than 7.0.4

No real problems since everything will be wiped when you upgrade to 8 anyway

 

[oplix]

7.1.2 is a lot smoother and apps open/close a bit faster overall. Basically it makes the iphone 5 feel like its on 6.1.2 again (which was fantastic).

Best ios version so far by leaps and bounds.

 

[thadoggfather]

7.1.2 is a lot smoother and apps open/close a bit faster overall. Basically it makes the iphone 5 feel like its on 6.1.2 again (which was fantastic).

Best ios version so far by leaps and bounds.

Including 6.1.2?

I'd tend to agree its in a similar league. That's why I'll be apprehensive about 8.0 jb even so. X.1 is almost always appreciably better. I can distinctly remember this being the case with every iteration since iOS 4 and maybe earlier too but that's a more distant memory

 

[klamse25]

I can't go 30 mins without a phone, too many important calls bro.

The fact you said "bro" leads me to believe you can go forever without calls for the sake of humanity.

 

[mrcowdude20]

The fact you said "bro" leads me to believe you can go forever without calls for the sake of humanity.

Cool.

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Easiest and most effective for this jailbreak is simply to plug in and accept the update. It'll retain almost everything except the tweaks.

- Take note of all the tweaks you installed (i just took screen shots of "installed")
(30 seconds)

- Plug in and accept the upgrade message (it'll back up as part of the process)
(5 minutes)

- When done, re-jailbreak All of your apps\music\video\photos\data will remain on the phone and untouched
(2 minutes)

- Open your screen shots of the tweaks you had, and install them all at once (use the queue function, you just queue them all then run the queue so you don't have to re-spring 50 times)
(10 minutes)

So total time you're looking at less than 20 minutes start to finish and your phone will look just like it did prior to the jailbreak. I know many say fresh install is the only way to go, but that's simply not necessary. The benefit of doing the upgrade then jailbreak is that when you reinstall your tweaks you don't have to re-add all your repos, and you don't have to re-set all your tweaks, because the settings for the tweaks transfer from version to version. It's literally a 20 minute TOPS project, and well worth it.

Whats this queue function? I have never heard of this...re springing and re booting and all that is a pain.