Its not slavery, you know 🤨 You are saying it like Apple own the guy and are the sole decision maker here. Maybe Intel was offering to do some work he considered more interesting? Or more beneficial to his career?
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Its not slavery, you know 🤨 You are saying it like Apple own the guy and are the sole decision maker here. Maybe Intel was offering to do some work he considered more interesting? Or more beneficial to his career?
Srouji came from Intel so it's Intel inbredded Apple Silicon.
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Individuals come and go from companies for all sorts of reasons ... many of which don't even involve pay or advancement - sometimes for some of the best, as @leman and @sirio76 said, it's just to work on something new. To actually worry this would have to be a flood of people leaving and nobody (*good) being hired to replace them.
It may also be lifestyle changes. Apple, unfortunately, still demands many employees, or potential employees, to work in Cupertino. Quality of life in Silicon Valley, even with a good salary, was on the decline before the pandemic, and hasn't improved since. He may have the option to go to Austin, but Austin is already seeing ludicrous housing prices, traffic, etc. and will be worse than SV soon.
Intel OTOH, is near Portland, which is quite lovely and still relatively affordable.
Apple's insistence on requiring nearly everyone to be in-person most of the time is going to cost them quite a few people who can get jobs in other areas, or work remotely from anywhere.
I think this can be nothing but a good thing. It will prevent Apple from become stagnant and content with their lead in silicon. Competition benefits us all.
I don’t know if anything’s rotten, but it’s definitely not great PR for Apple. Sometimes, even if you offer an employee the requested salary, they just want a change and lots of factors go into their decision (environment, WFH, excitement about new opportunity, etc.). That said, Apple probably figures they have their chips on the right track…This can’t be good. Something is rotten.
Apple loses lead Apple Silicon designer Jeff Wilcox to Intel
Apple Silicon leader and T2 security processor developer Jeff Wilcox has left Apple to rejoin Intel and oversee architecture for all Intel System-on-a-Chip (SoC) designs.appleinsider.com
Nothing he does after now will have the same impact at Apple. Turning Intel around and making them competitive and interesting again probably sounds a lot more rewarding than working on M4.
I fully expect trying to change Intel will be an exercise in frustration but I’m sure Intel called and said “whatever those guys are paying, we’ll double it” so he’ll have plenty to cover the therapy and have some left over.
I fully expect trying to change Intel will be an exercise in frustration but I’m sure Intel called and said “whatever those guys are paying, we’ll double it” so he’ll have plenty to cover the therapy and have some left over.
I'm all for it. Intel is an American company and this will potentially increase Intel's competitiveness. Apple has been getting poached a lot lately. Intel probably bought him. This guy was probably just an 'overseer' of the project and not the actual brains behind the engineering. Apple will be fine. There's plenty of talent out there.This can’t be good. Something is rotten.
Apple loses lead Apple Silicon designer Jeff Wilcox to Intel
Apple Silicon leader and T2 security processor developer Jeff Wilcox has left Apple to rejoin Intel and oversee architecture for all Intel System-on-a-Chip (SoC) designs.appleinsider.com
I disagree. Cross-fertilization is essential for a healthy environment... even in the tech world. Intel will be better off and others will replace this fellow. If the success of any organization is predicated on one single individual then that organization should fail.This can’t be good. Something is rotten.
Apple loses lead Apple Silicon designer Jeff Wilcox to Intel
Apple Silicon leader and T2 security processor developer Jeff Wilcox has left Apple to rejoin Intel and oversee architecture for all Intel System-on-a-Chip (SoC) designs.appleinsider.com
Tiger Lake uses the GPU Raja created at Intel. It's actually the second-best iGP after the M series and it's better than AMD's iGPUs.
Their discrete GPUs are shipping very soon too.
It takes a long time to create GPUs so 2017 to 2022 sounds about right for a new architecture from the ground up.
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Huge signing bonus, higher salary, higher title, will let him pick any interesting project to work on. That's my guess. Sometimes people just want to change and find a different challenge. People can get bored at work.
Intel does have offices in Portland, but their corporate headquarters is located in Santa Clara, California (a hop skip and a jump from Cupertino), and that campus isn't just administrative stuff - there's lots of engineers working there. You can't assume this guy is going to Oregon.
So you think that guy would care about the price of housing ever again after getting a job titled "CTO" at Intel?
mkay.....
Seriously though, how do you go from working on state of the art chip to improving the x86 for Intel...seems intellectually disgusting.
If they're trying to go ARM, then that would be interesting.
If they're trying to go ARM, then that would be interesting.
Disgusting? It's still the same job, chip design, and from his move, you can tell he's not of the Apple faithful.
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A couple years back there were reports of internal issues within Intel between “blue badges” and “green badges”. Blue badges denote regular employees, and green ones denote contract employees (often cheaper).
Intel, at least at the time, was increasing the number of cheaper contract employees (green badges) and letting go of regular employees (blue badges).
The blue badges saw this as a threat to their employment and began treating any green badges poorly.
I’m certain this is one of the reasons that Intel fell behind in the first place.
I’m having difficulty finding the original article, but there’s quite a few glassdoor reviews that state the “second-class” treatment that green badges get.
I went and read the actual article. Evidently, Wilcox was head of the M1 project, so to speak. He came to Apple from Intel in 2013, which predates the A11 bionic SOC. But from what I gather, Gerard Williams III was the chief architect of the A11, which more or less originated the architecture of the M1 chip, as in efficiency/performance cores, gpu, neural engine, etc, and he left in 2019, so if that didn't upset the Apple cart, then I think it's unlikely Wilcox's departure will. Aside from number of cores, perhaps the only thing substantially different in M1 from the A14 it's derived from is Unified Memory.
As to the 'something is rotten' statement people are objecting to, that's a quote from Hamlet. Not one I would have used, but that's a question of taste.
As to the 'something is rotten' statement people are objecting to, that's a quote from Hamlet. Not one I would have used, but that's a question of taste.
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It’s all opinions. IMHO something is rotten at Apple. Often is. Take a look at their macOS releases and their stability. I could be wrong. I’ve been wrong many times before. I hope I am wrong and that this was a good move for them.
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