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lowendlinux

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My Xbox One arrived and for only £40 more than the Apple TV4 I got a fantastic gaming and streaming machine, this box of tricks is blowing me away.
The apps and streaming quality is wonderful and I didn't know I can run my cable set-top box through it.
I also received a Chromecast for our second TV and just found out I have £20 Google Play credit to rent some movies but the streaming quality isn't as good as the Xbox One.
I've decided to keep my iPhone 6S and Apple Watch as I just don't see any better alternatives out there.
But I'll definitely be moving away from iPads and OSX laptops to a Windows 10 device.
I don't know what other people think but the grass is definitely greener.

For now, because it's new
 

lowendlinux

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Or because in his opinion it is for him, there is no right opinion

The "right" right option is free software on both mobile and desktop but since most of us can't live with that combined with the fact that he's spent so much money on Apple in the last 24 months I'll stand by my new hotness assertion
 

phpmaven

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On tablet side, I am still on iPad. Simply there aren't any better alternative.
I been using a 10.5" Samsung Tab S for several months now, and it's been great. I also had an iPad Air 2 (just sold it yesterday), but I've hardly touched it. The iPad feels like a brick by comparison. Don't get me wrong, the iPad is a great device, but the Tab S is great as well, plus it's thinner and lighter and has a far better screen, IMHO.
 

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I been using a 10.5" Samsung Tab S for several months now, and it's been great. I also had an iPad Air 2 (just sold it yesterday), but I've hardly touched it. The iPad feels like a brick by comparison. Don't get me wrong, the iPad is a great device, but the Tab S is great as well, plus it's thinner and lighter and has a far better screen, IMHO.


It is OK... Though Android on tablet still not good enough. As I said, there are just more quality tablet apps for iPad than Android tablet. Maybe I am outdated becuase I never had an Android tablet after Nexus 7.

On phone side though, I am completely Android now. Nexus 5X and 6P feel great and Android is more versatile than iOS. Android phone has equal if not better apps with iOS. So Android on phone is great.
 

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It is OK... Though Android on tablet still not good enough. As I said, there are just more quality tablet apps for iPad than Android tablet. Maybe I am outdated becuase I never had an Android tablet after Nexus 7.
Used to think that until I got my Samsung Tab S2. I had the iPad Air 2 before that and there is no comparison. The Air 2 was a brick, that lacked way to many features I can't live without. I need to be able to download to specific folders and not be sandboxed into a specific app. I make watchfaces for Android Wear and the Gear S2 and Apple doesn't have the apps or capabilities needed to do this.

Not to mention, the Tab S2 is thinner, lighter, has expandable SD card support, and a better front facing camera for video calling my daughter. Everything else is pretty much the same though in terms of hardware. As far as tablets go, the Tab S2 is the top tablet. Bar none.
 
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It is OK... Though Android on tablet still not good enough. As I said, there are just more quality tablet apps for iPad than Android tablet. Maybe I am outdated becuase I never had an Android tablet after Nexus 7.

On phone side though, I am completely Android now. Nexus 5X and 6P feel great and Android is more versatile than iOS. Android phone has equal if not better apps with iOS. So Android on phone is great.
Most folk just use the basics tho, they don't need specific medical or music apps. Web, movies and youtube plus mail are the main things folk want.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Yeah my iPad is mostly used for Safari, Tapatalk, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, BBC iPlayer, and tv catch up. All the technical stuff I do is on a laptop.

My tablet is just used as a larger version of my phone while at home. I don't need it to do anything particularly demanding and I think this is why tablet sales are much slower than that of phones. People tend to keep tablets for 3, 4, and 5 years.
 
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epicrayban

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Yeah my iPad is mostly used for Safari, Tapatalk, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, BBC iPlayer, and tv catch up. All the technical stuff I do is on a laptop.

My tablet is just used as a larger version of my phone while at home. I don't need it to do anything particularly demanding and I think this is why tablet sales are much slower than that of phones. People tend to keep tablets for 3, 4, and 5 years.

Same here. My iPad uses are basic browsing and gaming. And for those purposes, I see no reason to upgrade to the latest. Anything beyond those simple tasks, I hop onto any number of Macs that are in the home.

My smartphone, however, is a different story. It's with me every day, used daily, and used for much more, which is why I cannot use an iPhone as my daily driver. I expect and require more functionality out of my smartphone.
 

phpmaven

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It is OK... Though Android on tablet still not good enough. As I said, there are just more quality tablet apps for iPad than Android tablet. Maybe I am outdated becuase I never had an Android tablet after Nexus 7.

On phone side though, I am completely Android now. Nexus 5X and 6P feel great and Android is more versatile than iOS. Android phone has equal if not better apps with iOS. So Android on phone is great.
Well yes, you are a bit outdated. I would suggest you go check out the Tab S yourself.
 

matt39932

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Long time lurker.

I've used Apple exclusively for the last 10 years or so, i've recently (in the last week) sold my iPhone 6s, my Apple watch and my 15" Macbook Pro. I've only ever used my machines for productivity purposes (I own a tech company) and recently made the switch to Windows 10.

This isn't a hate post, I just don't seem to get as much done on OSX as I do on Windows 10. I bought an XPS 13 which seems like the only laptop that can rival the Macbook in terms of build quality - it really is a fantastic machine, Windows 10 has its kinks, but it really is a multitasking marvel. I swapped my phone out for a Lumia 950, the build quality is nowhere near the iPhone 6, however, continuum makes it all worth it.

I don't think there's a comparable for the iPad, but i'm not big on tablets anyway. Have to say i'm very happy with Windows 10, it's not as 'sexy', but it really is a productivity monster. I just feel like I can keep up with hardware curve as well now.
 

ozaz

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I just don't seem to get as much done on OSX as I do on Windows 10.

After 3-4 years of owning a Mac I came to the same conclusion. But I had been using Windows exclusively for about 10 years prior to getting my Mac, and continued to use Windows almost daily whilst I had a Mac. So I was never completely ingrained in OS X's way of doing things and I always kept Windows compatibility in mind in my workflow (i.e. app and file format choices).

So I'm a bit surprised you have come to this conclusion after 10 years of exclusive use of Apple products. I'm curious, after switching to Windows how long did it take you to come to this conclusion?
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I swapped my phone out for a Lumia 950, the build quality is nowhere near the iPhone 6, however, continuum makes it all worth it.

Also curious, under what scenarios do you actually use Continuum?
It strikes me as a less convenient solution than carrying a small second device as a more capable yet still very mobile workstation (like a mini tablet with a HDMI port).
 
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matt39932

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After 3-4 years of owning a Mac I came to the same conclusion. But I had been using Windows exclusively for about 10 years prior to getting my Mac, and continued to use Windows almost daily whilst I had a Mac. So I was never completely ingrained in OS X's way of doing things and I always kept Windows compatibility in mind in my workflow (i.e. app and file format choices).

So I'm a bit surprised you have come to this conclusion after 10 years of exclusive use of Apple products. I'm curious, after switching to Windows how long did it take you to come to this conclusion?
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Also curious, under what scenarios do you actually use Continuum?
It strikes me as a less convenient solution than carrying a small second device as a more capable yet still very mobile workstation (like a mini tablet with a HDMI port).

A couple of weeks really. The initial set up was a pain, but beyond that it was fairly simple to grasp.

I work in a high pressure environment, so things like being able to snap 4 windows to the corner of my screens is a life saver. Cortana is absolutely awesome too.

I often use Continuum walking around the office. I can plug my phone into a screen and deliver a presentation from my phone, organise a conference call, reply to emails on a larger screen in one of our meeting rooms. It's a nice to have, sometimes I just don't want to unplug my laptop from my desk and I 'sort of' know I have a minicomputer in my pocket that I can connect up to most screens to do minor work or be entertained. Don't get me wrong it's not 100% there yet, but I can see where this tech is going and I think it's an exciting proposition.

It's a personal preference, I hate carrying lots of devices daily, 2 is my max, so it's a good option for me. I only want a decent laptop and a phone, that's enough for me now. I didn't like the feeling of being 'too' connected with the Apple Watch etc.
 

Levo14

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My Xbox One arrived and for only £40 more than the Apple TV4 I got a fantastic gaming and streaming machine, this box of tricks is blowing me away.
The apps and streaming quality is wonderful and I didn't know I can run my cable set-top box through it.
I also received a Chromecast for our second TV and just found out I have £20 Google Play credit to rent some movies but the streaming quality isn't as good as the Xbox One.
I've decided to keep my iPhone 6S and Apple Watch as I just don't see any better alternatives out there.
But I'll definitely be moving away from iPads and OSX laptops to a Windows 10 device.
I don't know what other people think but the grass is definitely greener.

I'm very curious as the Xbox quality vs chromecast, I only have a 360 and chromecast but chromecast is virtually perfect quality, how 'bad' is chromecast in comparison for you?
 

Surface3User

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Jun 23, 2015
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I currently own an iPad Pro, Apple TV 4, iPhone 6S, iPod touch and Apple Watch but I've been for a while assessing my situation and find that bang for buck I just don't find apples HW worth it anymore, their price gouging is just getting worse.
I could get a Xbox One and Windows 10 laptop that could stream just as well if not better than my Apple HW, I also would have the advantage of using Steam which is far more compelling for indie games than the App Store.
The move to Spotify and Blu-ray Discs would also give me equal or better quality and value alternatives.
Has anyone else done this and is the grass greener?
Thanks.

I jumped shipped about five years ago and had more Apple devices at the time than what you listed. Personally, I much prefer Windows now. No OS or hardware is perfect, but I like the fact that I'm not tied down to an all Apple ecosystem. That being said, my wife and I still have iPhones, and the kids have an iPad mini 4.
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Like others, I think iPad is the best tablet if you don't have productivity needs.

I would agree, but it's not really a landslide. The selection of apps is nice. I especially enjoy Amazon Video, but for the most part, I don't really like tablet apps as they are often water downed versions of services that are better accessed through the browser or otherwise (which is the reason why I do love Amazon Video, which permits you download videos locally so that you can watch when you don't have wireless readily available).

One gripe with iPads and iOS generally is that unless you are willing to go through certain hoops, you have to use iTunes to save videos locally to the iPad. Frankly, I cannot stand iTunes and would rather just have a proper file system that allows me to drag and drop videos easily for my kids.

Additionally, I want to be able to add additional storage through a micro SD card.

There is also the issue of bloatware on iPads. Admittedly, it's partially my OCD at fault, but I don't like having to create an iJunk folder to hide away bloatware.

Finally, it is easier to multitask on Windows tablets, and this doesn't have to with productivity either. I often have other apps open on the side, and it's just easier to switch and see what else is going on other apps, websites, etc.

For my kids and myself, an iPad is indeed a great consumption device but primarily for watching videos since it has a great screen, it's light and has great battery life. However, it is not a perfect consumption device by any means.
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A couple of weeks really. The initial set up was a pain, but beyond that it was fairly simple to grasp.

I work in a high pressure environment, so things like being able to snap 4 windows to the corner of my screens is a life saver. Cortana is absolutely awesome too.

I often use Continuum walking around the office. I can plug my phone into a screen and deliver a presentation from my phone, organise a conference call, reply to emails on a larger screen in one of our meeting rooms. It's a nice to have, sometimes I just don't want to unplug my laptop from my desk and I 'sort of' know I have a minicomputer in my pocket that I can connect up to most screens to do minor work or be entertained. Don't get me wrong it's not 100% there yet, but I can see where this tech is going and I think it's an exciting proposition.

It's a personal preference, I hate carrying lots of devices daily, 2 is my max, so it's a good option for me. I only want a decent laptop and a phone, that's enough for me now. I didn't like the feeling of being 'too' connected with the Apple Watch etc.

I'm also trying to whittle down my devices where I can so I am interested in moving back to a Windows Phone for Continuum. I love gadgets, but slowly but surely, I am coming to the realization that I really don't really need much at home.

In the end, I probably won't go back to Windows Phone not because I don't think Continuum is a fantastic idea (it is), but because I still require a desktop at home for heavy photo and video editing and games. I do plan on resisting any new laptop purchases, however, so long as work continues to provide a laptop.

My personal preference: tablet for couch and a desktop that I can upgrade until the wheels fall off.
 

jeremiah256

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I think you may just need more diversity in your kit; pick what you like, regardless of the brand.

I'm in the middle of a major workflow transition. I am going from laptop centric to using a tablet as my main productivity device. Although I can probably do more that 90% of what I need to do on a tablet, I'll still need to have a laptop available. The difference is that I no longer need the power of a pro level laptop. By the end of this year my goal is to have converted my 2011 MBP into a server. My main computing device will be an iPad Pro, as I prefer using iOS and my main computer, standing by when needed, will remain my Surface 3. Between the Surface 3 and iPad Pro, everything I do is covered with two devices that will together be more portable than the monster 15" MBP I used to carry around.
I currently own an iPad Pro, Apple TV 4, iPhone 6S, iPod touch and Apple Watch but I've been for a while assessing my situation and find that bang for buck I just don't find apples HW worth it anymore, their price gouging is just getting worse.
I could get a Xbox One and Windows 10 laptop that could stream just as well if not better than my Apple HW, I also would have the advantage of using Steam which is far more compelling for indie games than the App Store.
The move to Spotify and Blu-ray Discs would also give me equal or better quality and value alternatives.
Has anyone else done this and is the grass greener?
Thanks.
 

Marco123

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I'm enjoying reading your posts on this matter.
But I do say that some of my purchases were my own stupid decisions that should have been more thought out. I don't miss my Apple Watch, Apple TV4 and iPad Pro one bit.
After using my Windows laptop and Xbox One for streaming and renting films also going back to desktop websites and not mobile ones I can personally say that apples future is not mine. No matter what Apple may think there's nothing pro about the iPad Pro.
I do love my iPhone though but I can't see myself upgrading it for a long time due to the price of them. But if MS were to blow me away with a surface phone then I could be tempted.
I've finally simplified my lifestyle by not jumping through apples hoops.
 

Wildo6882

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I'm partially done with Apple, too, for many of the reasons listed in this thread. While I like my iPhone 6s Plus, I don't love it for what I had to pay for it. I feel like I could be just as happy, if not more so, with a cheaper Android phone. I've pretty much decided to go with an Android phone, iPad Mini 4 and a Windows 10 laptop. I also have a Roku and Nexus Player (that I got for $25 from Target), so I see no need for an Apple TV.
 

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I'm looking at a nexus 6P and using google services instead.
It's truly a great phone. It's what I have now. But the phone ended up being too big for me and I'm actually getting an SE now. But it's a really great phone. I'm selling mine in about two weeks after I get my SE. Maybe I'll sell it on the Market here.
 

ozaz

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I'm very curious as the Xbox quality vs chromecast, I only have a 360 and chromecast but chromecast is virtually perfect quality, how 'bad' is chromecast in comparison for you?

I suspect Chromecast issues commonly arise due to local Wifi issues. I used to have problems with stream quality and reliability on my first gen Chromecast connected by Wifi. But I've just recently connected it via Ethernet and now the picture quality and stream reliability are excellent.
 

Wildo6882

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It's truly a great phone. It's what I have now. But the phone ended up being too big for me and I'm actually getting an SE now. But it's a really great phone. I'm selling mine in about two weeks after I get my SE. Maybe I'll sell it on the Market here.

Why not try out the 5X? It's even cheaper than the SE.
 

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Why not try out the 5X? It's even cheaper than the SE.
Because I want the SE. I'm not looking for cheaper, I'm looking for power in a small phone. Not to mention it has the same camera as the 6S. And I'm getting back into the Apple ecosystem in which I have a lot of money invested in purchased apps. The SE is already on its way. My buddy has the 5X and while it's a nice phone, it's not what I want.
 

Wildo6882

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Because I want the SE. I'm not looking for cheaper, I'm looking for power in a small phone. Not to mention it has the same camera as the 6S. And I'm getting back into the Apple ecosystem in which I have a lot of money invested in purchased apps. The SE is already on its way. My buddy has the 5X and while it's a nice phone, it's not what I want.

Fair enough.

Just figured if you owned an Android phone that you say you really liked why you weren't going to a smaller version of it.
 

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Fair enough.

Just figured if you owned an Android phone that you say you really liked why you weren't going to a smaller version of it.
I enjoyed the 6P a lot, actually. But Android just ended up making me miss the simplicity of iOS. They are both fantastic operating systems. Android has come a long way, but I think it took using an Android for 6 months to make me realize how much I liked iOS. I've also been playing with my 5S lately and I've been hit with a few nostalgia bombs. :p They both have their pros and cons. What I really wanted all along was an updated 5S ... and the SE is pretty much that for me. I couldn't be more excited to get my new phone. It's still two weeks out though. >_>
 
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