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iPod Just bought 80gb ipod classic from somebody with 8000 plus songs..need help
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I get real tired of seeing the MacRumors moral police condemning everything everyone does. It really, truly gets tiring seeing people come into every thread like this.
You holier-than-thou people DO realize you're making a copy every time you put a downloaded song on your iPod, right? I mean, you're paying for it once but you are making a copy when you transfer it to your iPod. Should you go to jail? Maybe you should. Maybe you should email Jobs and tell him that his iPod device is a weapon that only created, causes, aids, and abets crime.
FWIW, the guy obviously knew he left the songs on it when he sold it, so he sold his copies of the songs. He owned em, it's his choice to sell em.
The OP didn't ask for your heuty-teuty high-and-mighty conscience, so get off it already. Nobody cares how perfect you are. Really, it's unbecoming. If you have something constructive to add, add it, otherwise just leave it be and try and stick to the topic at hand instead of deciding whether something is wrong or right--you don't even know enough about the situation to make affirmative or negative assertions so save it.
OP--ignore these trolls, use Senuti. Works like a charm for all your copying needs.
You mean much like how the OP never asked for your condescending "You're a criminal" rhetoric? If the OP wanted a moral lecture, he'd have asked too.
OP--Senuti will work really well; you'll have to pay for it from RedCliff (IIRC) for like $18, but it will work really well, like with only a couple clicks. The only problems I've had is that the album art doesn't always transfer to iTunes for some reason, so you'll need to redownload some artwork from iTunes most likely.
You holier-than-thou people DO realize you're making a copy every time you put a downloaded song on your iPod, right? I mean, you're paying for it once but you are making a copy when you transfer it to your iPod. Should you go to jail? Maybe you should. Maybe you should email Jobs and tell him that his iPod device is a weapon that only created, causes, aids, and abets crime.
FWIW, the guy obviously knew he left the songs on it when he sold it, so he sold his copies of the songs. He owned em, it's his choice to sell em.
The OP didn't ask for your heuty-teuty high-and-mighty conscience, so get off it already. Nobody cares how perfect you are. Really, it's unbecoming. If you have something constructive to add, add it, otherwise just leave it be and try and stick to the topic at hand instead of deciding whether something is wrong or right--you don't even know enough about the situation to make affirmative or negative assertions so save it.
OP--ignore these trolls, use Senuti. Works like a charm for all your copying needs.
You mean much like how the OP never asked for your condescending "You're a criminal" rhetoric? If the OP wanted a moral lecture, he'd have asked too.
OP--Senuti will work really well; you'll have to pay for it from RedCliff (IIRC) for like $18, but it will work really well, like with only a couple clicks. The only problems I've had is that the album art doesn't always transfer to iTunes for some reason, so you'll need to redownload some artwork from iTunes most likely.
What if the seller included the price of each song into the cost of the ipod when he sold it? I mean how is this any different than selling a box of CDs at a yard sale for like $10. He didn't steal the ipod, he sold it with the songs on it. Don't doubt that it could have been a package deal.
Actually, I would. And so would Trent Reznor, and Radiohead, and Mojo Nixon, and tons of independent bands, and every garage band ever, and...
Frickin' morality police, and you don't even know all of the facts.
Oh, has anyone hear ever bought a used record? A pre-viewed DVD? Exactly. Go jump off a bridge, hypocrites.
yep, buying used cd's means the artist gets no money. guess that should be stopped too!
the RIAA even says it's breaking copyright law to rip music from your cd's to itunes. and i bet all of you have done that!
I feel sorry for you if you have to resort to using personal insults. Here was me thinking people could have constructive debates, but then again, you did say earlier you didn't care that I cared so I don't know why it's bothering you so much.
I used iPod Rip back when my iTunes library was deleted and everything was on my iPod. Worked like a charm, though it used to have a limited number of days/uses on it.
Yup. Format shifting is illegal in some countries and frowned upon in the rest.
You're not supposed to lend out DVDs, CDs and games too.
Yup. Format shifting is illegal in some countries and frowned upon in the rest.
You're not supposed to lend out DVDs, CDs and games too.
I agree with all this crazy morality police replies also but the original topic creator basically baited them with their thread title.
A simple, can I get songs from my ipod to a new computer topic would have sufficed and given the same result.
And who says the seller didn't sell those songs with the iPod?
Maybe he destroyed all the originals he had access to and passed it to his the buyer?
Is it illegal for me to sell my entire CD collection?
A simple, can I get songs from my ipod to a new computer topic would have sufficed and given the same result.
And who says the seller didn't sell those songs with the iPod?
Maybe he destroyed all the originals he had access to and passed it to his the buyer?
Is it illegal for me to sell my entire CD collection?
Wrong. People spend a certain amount of money on music. If someone buys CDs and later sells them used, that person will have more money to buy more CDs. It is just a variation of discriminatory pricing, which is known to improve total profits while at the same time producing more value to customers (aka win-win situation).
You mean much like how the OP never asked for your condescending "You're a criminal" rhetoric? If the OP wanted a moral lecture, he'd have asked too.
Please point out where I called the OP a criminal. It seems quite obvious that the OP had the wrong impression about how copyright works and about the legal status of the songs on his iPod, and pointed it out to him. Unlike some posters (including you) who are trying to tell him what tools to use to commit copyright infringement, I am sure that he has no intention to do any such thing.
You should know that (1) copying from hard drive to RAM is copying, (2) such copying is completely legal if your copy on the hard drive is legal in the first place, and (3) it is illegal if the copy on the hard drive is illegal. So your guess is stupidly wrong: Copying music _that you own_ from hard drive to RAM is completely legal.
Entirely legal of course, as long as you destroy all copies you made and backup copies.
That's the thing about public forums. You can ask whatever you want and other people can answer with whatever they want. Seems pretty fair to me. If someone can't handle other people having a stronger conscience he can always just stick to asking people he knows in person. Once he posts here he gets to hear all sorts of views, including those that might not match up perfectly with his own view. For all the people calling others "moral police" keep in mind that police don't post suggestions on message boards; they handcuff you and haul your ass to jail. Until you see MR users doing that, maybe you could lose the outlandish exaggerations and stick to reality.
youtube? Never heard of it.
As for the songs... the choice is toss them and feel like you're morally upstanding, or keep them and, well, have 8,000 ***** free songs!!!!!!!
But those methods mentioned above work if so desired.
Actually, you are legally allowed to resell music you legitimately purchased, so long as you did not agree to something restricting resale at the time of purchase. Even then, when it comes to selling CD's courts often will rule such no-resale agreements are non-binding. If, however, they came from iTune stores, then you really didn't buy anything. You just licensed it, so you have no resale rights...
Ultimately, if they are not copy protected songs, you should just be able to copy them off with itunes. Provided you did not agree with the purchased the iPod from to erase the music, it is perfectly legal. Legally the seller should erase/destroy other copies...
Bill
I suspect most people would truthfully answer, yes they would, if they thought:
1. They would never be caught.
2. Nobody at the store would be punished or suffer as a result.
3. It cost the store nothing to restock the shelves.
Traditional morality just does not work with intellectual property. People look at the big music companies, and say they aren't helping the artists, so why should they care?
I'm not saying I agree, or disagree with this view. I'm just stating a fact. Artists that accept this and use open licensing will be much more successful than those who try and live with the business models of the past, that only reward huge publishers.
Why would anyone delete 8000 of their own songs? I'd be shouting expletives all day if I did that to myself
i deleted 500 GB worth of songs by accidentally formatting the wrong hard drive on my computer. there wasn't any expletive shouting though.
hell yeah i would. its not my responsibility to check and make sure the person emptied it out before he sold it to me. i hate how people on this forum always want to be moral police.
i would say its pretty insulting to call someone a criminal. or to underestimate someones mental abilities by pointing out that something is "theft on a large scale" when anybody with a brain could see that.
"It's still theft on a large scale" really? i would have never figured that one out. thanks so much!!!
Theft is not the correct term.
Here is a helpful picture to show why it is not theft:
