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mhobelsb

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Dec 5, 2008
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My Week 51 RevB is a 1,86 with 120GB HDD (and as bonus lines and flickering. ;) ). The terminal states:

Code:
P .00 6
B133EW03 V2
Color LCD

Greetings

Martin
 

LeonX

macrumors member
Aug 21, 2008
44
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maybe its a stupid question, but I wonder if the coating ist part of the panel or is it something that is applied in a seperate step during the manufacturing process? so basically: is it possible to get the same panel model with diffrent coatings?
 

sonicblue83

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Dec 30, 2008
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Yesterday I got my Macbook Air Rev. B 1.6Ghz 120GB HDD.

I checked my LCD screen and I got the same modell as shokunin, the:

P .00 6
B133EW03 V0
Color LCD

But I don't have any lines and neither flickering. Usually I'm very sensitive to things like that but I can't see absolutely nothing wrong about my screen. I guess I was lucky. :)
 

tobiasvdp

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Dec 30, 2008
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no lines and no flickering here either, quite a gorgeous screen

1,6 BTO SSD,
Factory: W8 (Shanghai China)
Production week: 50 (December)
Production number: 2 (within this week)

ioreg gives me:
P .00 6
B133EW03 V0
Color LCD

Display: 9c9a
Manufactured by: 00000610
Production date: C2486D00
 

LeonX

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Aug 21, 2008
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So after all that panel versions - with or without lines - I cannot see any pattern. And as long as there is no pattern it doesnt make sense to place a second order. I think I will give up for now althouogh I would love to see a flawless unit in person. All five I have seen so far were affected (and it was easy to figure this as they are still surround by rev.As with gorgeous screens here in Germany)...
 

mhnajjar

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Mar 3, 2008
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Any news yet?

I see Ironic is leading his group in the "no lines thread" :D


Any new owners with lines? :confused:
 

Tommigun

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Oct 15, 2008
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Helsinki, Finland
Slightly off topic probably, but I returned my MBA due to the lines and flickering. A REAL shame because I was so looking forward to using it during the holidays on the run.

The lines were so bad that they were very visible even when booting up the darned thing, and my eyes got really strained by the screen in a matter of half an hour or so. I am going to hold off on purchasing another one until this issue is resolved.
 

tbone21

macrumors newbie
Jan 4, 2009
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Just got my 1.8 GHz SSD rev.2 here, week 49. At first boot I thought I saw lines, but I think my mind is playing tricks on me since I've read so many of these forum postings about the line issue. Talk about the power of suggestion! :D

After using it for a few days I don't see any lines, however on the "test pattern" there is a SLIGHT bit of flickering. In normal use I don't see it and my eyes aren't hurting. Overall I am a happy camper.
 

tbone21

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Jan 4, 2009
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Sorry I should've have mentioned this before - I didn't get it through the store, it was via my job (we have a contract with CDW).
 

mhnajjar

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Mar 3, 2008
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I talked to a store manager ealier today and showed him the lines on the MBA revB on the store's display and he said "I do not see anything. The screen looks perfect to me and I am sure if there was anything wrong with it Apple would have acknowledged it." I was :eek::eek::eek: and told him "Apple did not do any recall on the faulty nVidia GPUs in the MBP and did not say anything regarding the unusable MBA revA except locking its cpu frequency and now you are seeing no lines!" :confused:

Now, I am 200% sure that the lines are on EVERY MBA and all the people who are saying that they do not have them, simply DO NOT SEE THEM! I have even seen the lines on revAs that are available on store displays wether Apple or BestBuy.

I decided to forget about the MBA since it is just a faulty machine made by a greedy company. My iMac might be the only Apple machine that I am proud of for now.
 

tubbymac

macrumors 65816
Nov 6, 2008
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I talked to a store manager ealier today and showed him the lines on the MBA revB on the store's display and he said "I do not see anything. The screen looks perfect to me and I am sure if there was anything wrong with it Apple would have acknowledged it."

I should carry around an Optometrist's business card to hand out for situations like that. Maybe some Lenscrafter's 10% discount coupons too. Hand him the card and the coupon, pat him on the back, get a good chuckle and then get thrown out of the store.
 

mhnajjar

macrumors 6502a
Mar 3, 2008
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I like your idea tubbymac. This will be a good payback for their act of stupidity :D
 

dead_smed

macrumors member
Jan 9, 2004
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Milton Keynes
I have a week 45 1.8 SSD,

ioreg gives me:
P .00 6
B133EW03 V0
Color LCD

I believe I have lines and would describe them as a paper grain. Very faint lines from left to right but you have to have your eyes at the right distance and angle from the screen to them (its almost like some kind of polarisation). The 2 1.8 units in the store I bought it from I think also have this problem but didn't notice it before purchase.

From what I've read and what I've seen I do think that most if not all machines have these lines. I'm willing to put up with it but I do feel for the price of the machine this should be put right.

I don't believe this is a software problem I think its a hardware problem to do with the screen / coating on the screen. I think the last OS X update changed the colour profile for the screen to try and hide it but I think this is all that apple is will do.
 

mhnajjar

macrumors 6502a
Mar 3, 2008
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Apple should have stopped their MBA production untill they solve this issue. Unfortunately, they decided to go on and sell us all these crappy machines and opt for a silent fix (new production line) when the time is right for them.
 

ichigo11

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Nov 21, 2006
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Now, I am 200% sure that the lines are on EVERY MBA and all the people who are saying that they do not have them, simply DO NOT SEE THEM! I have even seen the lines on revAs that are available on store displays wether Apple or BestBuy.

I saw 2 perfect screen MBA 1.6 HDD at two different Apple stores, but also saw a MBA 1.6 with lines at another Apple store. I was once a believer that all MBA have lines, however since I saw two perfect screens with my own eyes, I do believer people have perfect screens, well at least on the 1.6 Ghz units.
I do still believer over 80% of the 1.8 Ghz have faulty screens.

I took my MBA to an Apple store first the guy said he couldn't see the lines then later said he did see it but don't think it's that big of problem. I complained and said I paid $2500 for the MBA why would some owners have the perfect screen and I have to settle for the lines.

He said he could have it sent it out to replace the screen and label the issue as uneven brightness, but they will still use the same screen. Since I'm going out of town and unsure the problem will be solved because they won't even recognize the problem, I declined his offer.

So unless Apple acknowledge the problem I don't think us "line" owners will ever get our perfect screens.
 

tubbymac

macrumors 65816
Nov 6, 2008
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I know it's not exactly the same but at 2:02 into it, I see MBA lines, lines!

Wow good catch, hah! The lines finally caught on film :) It's visible from about 2:02 to 2:04 there.

Some commentary though: The lines in that video get stretched into very thick bands and look like they are flickering/moving. That does not happen when you see them with your own eyes. In reality the lines are thinner and don't move/flicker like that unless your viewing angle or distance changes. They appear thicker and appear to move in the video due to the difference between the frame rate of the video camera and the frame rate of the MBA display. So the video is a bit misleading in how it looks but the general idea is there.
 

justit

macrumors 6502a
Dec 1, 2007
640
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He said he could have it sent it out to replace the screen and label the issue as uneven brightness, but they will still use the same screen.

I was quoted 2 days to get a new screen shipped to the store, another 2 days or sooner to have it replaced. It seems the issue will be around until they can offload the inventory. Someone here in a thread actually bought 2 machines, one good one bad and had them replace the screen on the bad one since they had a good one to compare to.
 

That70sGAdawg

macrumors 6502a
May 23, 2008
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Athens, GA USA
This thread needs to be closed. There WAS apparently an issue for many( at least that post here). But, now we have verified 1.6 HDD models (mine included) with perfect screens. From 1 inch, 5 inches, or 10 it's FINE. So , If you want a Macbook Air, buy it, and return it if you happen to get an unacceptable screen until you get one that's acceptable, or don't buy one! But great screens do exist!!!
I had a rev.1 Air, sold it, bought a MacBook Alum (could NOT live with he viewing angles and black level of that model - tried 2), then decided to try a rev 2 Air and I guess lucked out. But it's very simple minded to think that all of them are bad, and everyone needs glasses.
 
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