You’re absolutely right. I think I meant Apple TV+ which is still pretty new so nothing to brag about at this point.
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Didn’t wanna go there, but yeah not the proudest moment for Steve. I still use my mac.com email though. I guess I got something from it.
It’s much better than ios7 roll out when they changed the UI. It’s a beta, but Apple beta gets more attention than other companies release candidates.
The internet was absolutely teeming with people whinging about how expensive Apple products were, back in the days when SJ was alive. There was always some goon talking about how you could get a computer with the "same specs" as a Mac for way less money, and there was always some old ponytail talking about how Macs in the early '90s were built better.
For my money, Apple stuff still has the best UI and the tightest integration among its products of anything I've tried. And, in many cases these days, the best performance overall. There are still bugs (but show me an OS without bugs, I dare you), and Siri makes me want to claw out my eyes, but I feel like I'm getting damn good value for my money overall.
What IBM was. Then the folks with the pirate flag (and a hammer-throwing TV commercial) came along.
Interesting fact: this is the only widely known issue with iPhone networking but there are many not-so-known incidents. The reason why iPhone 4 became famous was probably because issue was in every media imaginable back then.
For example iPhone 5 had few wifi reception issues: if there was a wall, wifi was off. Smh issue was very common after iOS 7 update so it might have been a bug. And iPhone 6 had very poor cellular connection, it was a great luck to have normal 4G on it. And 6s, it was a dumpster fire: it often didn't deliver notifications and calls in time. I don't know it was a bug or smth but this phone made me rage quit straight into Galaxy S10+ (and then back to iPhones, tho)
Fun thing is, Apple products were definitely MORE expensive 15-20 years ago than now. And there was lots of fragmentation in terms of CPU speed, added GPU and more. Buying Windows laptop was a good choice back then because you actually got same Core 2 Duo for 2x less the price.
Nowadays buying a Windows laptop for 1000$ is...uhm, well... not the best way to spend money on tech to say it politely. Just a day ago or so there was an ad on MR where you could grab M2 Air for 700$. Back in 2007 that dream could have been achieved only if one bought it second hand
Yeah, Mac prices have plummeted as the market has gotten so much bigger. The price for Apple's cheapest laptop (iBook, MacBook, MacBook Air) has been ~$999 for like 20 years now.Just a day ago or so there was an ad on MR where you could grab M2 Air for 700$. Back in 2007 that dream could have been achieved only if one bought it second hand
It's still in BETA you moldy potato.
go look at the very first Mac OS X Beta. it looked absolutely nothing like the final release.
not to mention the centered apple logo in the menu bar.
I should hope that in addition to whinging here (which does nothing), people are actually using the beta as intended and submitting their feedback to Apple (which affects future development).
I doubt it. Folks who are actually testing and understand beta probably don’t have for whining and have Apple fix the defects.
It’s funny all the people who say “it’s a beta! They will fix it!” It’s been years and they don’t fix it. It just gets worse and worse every release.
They have the most powerful chips and can’t even hit a stable 60 fps in any animations. But yet an iPhone from 2011 was able to do it no problem? They won’t fix it because they don’t have to. You still buy it.
I remember beta testing an iOS release years ago and there was a bug with attaching pictures to a message. I submitted reports. Had Apple devs call me to get more information. Submitted crash reports to them. Guess what? 7 iOS versions later, the bug still exists. So are they incompetent and can’t fix it, or do they just not care enough to fix it?
They have the most powerful chips and can’t even hit a stable 60 fps in any animations. But yet an iPhone from 2011 was able to do it no problem? They won’t fix it because they don’t have to. You still buy it.
I remember beta testing an iOS release years ago and there was a bug with attaching pictures to a message. I submitted reports. Had Apple devs call me to get more information. Submitted crash reports to them. Guess what? 7 iOS versions later, the bug still exists. So are they incompetent and can’t fix it, or do they just not care enough to fix it?
I don’t know how much we should compare this years (multiple) beta(s) to something that literally happened a quarter century ago.
Apple, today, has all the resources they could every possibly need to get it right before the public ever knows a thing.
Just reminded me there was a strange period when they renamed the whole service .mac, before the strange period of MobileMe
Yes. It was called .mac for a bit. Honestly Steve didn’t know what to do with it, and didn’t have a team to execute.
I would like your comment more if it hadn't referred to a total catastrophe in man/machine interfacing, namely the keyboard, which is so essential and yet was so awful during the Butterfly keyboard years.
Speaking of "stripped-down junk", I can only wonder how well the A-series MacBook Airs will perform?
It’s almost laughably predictable. 8GB RAM, single port and headphone jack, no MagSafe, 128GB single Nand chip SSD, M1 comparable performance, cheaper panels with lower brightness and terrible onboard camera, no TouchID, no backlit keyboard, lower standard networking chips, lower cores than M1 Air, tinny speakers, 1cm x 1cm aluminium foil heatsink, Elmer glued components, and muted pastel colours that are a part of the 50 shades of Space Grey. Hinge that opens beyond 90º is BTO, if you want wheels for it add another $499 + tariffs, for rolling with China. Emoji quick key where the TouchID should be is also BTO. Excellent battery life and “good enough for most people” performance. As if good enough is the standard we hold Apple to. OK I am just kidding. Or am I psychic?
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Your prognosticative clairvoyance is so specific one must wonder if you've lived through such disappointment before?
