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Kuo: Apple Better Off Taking 25% Tariff Hit Than Move iPhone Production to US
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I doubt that Apple will increase only US prices, so probably customers all around the world are going to pay for it.
TSMC would be the one building it with help from apple.
“…with no guarantee of replicating the scale, cost structure, or speed of existing operations in Asia.“
Or levels of quality.
Or levels of quality.
Very unlikely as TSMC is a processor manufacturer, not an assembler.
There are 49 national emergencies declared at the current moment. The longest-lasting dates to November 1979. There is always a national emergency.
https://digitaledition.chicagotribune.com/tribune/
&, according to a Mistral search:
Also, maybe part of the problem is an engineering degree in the US costs a hillion jillion dollars.
&, according to a Mistral search:
There's no way in hell anything in the US can compete with that. & these are trained, skilled assembly workers...
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You can't assemble the iPhone with out a cpu (which is probably the most expensive part).
I see you forgot the other previous former president. It’s as if your memory goes back only 4 years.
There are no facts in this article, so the facts don't exist. Kuo is simply stating an opinion -- he has no influence over decisions that are made.
More helpful than someone that just endlessly throws money at Ukraine with nothing in return for our support.
First apple pac’s need to stop supporting gop candidates and stop supporting the us chamber of commerce who on,y supports republicans perhaps they also need to incorporate in the EU
They would only have to wait 1 1/2 years. Congress has the power to override tariffs.
Why would Apple support the Dems that try to increase taxes and impose even more regulations on businesses and shareholders?
Do people THINK before they put their political opinions in writing?
“shifting iPhone production to the United States could increase the per-unit cost of an iPhone to approximately $3,500”. If true, that is insane. I thought they were just assembled in China at the cost of about $10 a phone.
Because that would be likely less damaging than what's happening now?
I mean, you do realize the tariffs imposed by the current administration are effectively a huge tax on Apple's business, right? Whatever the opposition would impose is likely going to be less expensive for Apple than what the current administration is actually doing.
About regulation, I'm sure Apple doesn't like to be told how to do business, but at least regulation has a process. The current administration is basically telling Apple how to do business without process and threatening them with further taxation as retaliation if they don't operate the way the government wants.
China has a whole infrastructure already in place on top of cheap labor. Shifting production to the US would require first to build infrastructure and that would be on top of US's expensive labor.
The 3.5K price reflects the multi-billion investments over multiple years that Apple would need to even start and obviously would have to be recouped.
Apple will spread out its factories in the future. When automation, fully robotic plants, and factory robots are a thing. Once you cut people out of the factory and can have it run 24-7, having them spread across the world makes sense. So getting what we wish for in this sense is many factories in the US that hardly have any people in them.
Raising taxes from 21% to 35%+ isn't a good substitute for tarriffs, not to mention the other stuff businesses would have to pay for -- including extra taxes for shareholders capital gains, increased costs in benefits given to employees, and an increase in federal overtime tax. There would also be a significant increase in the costs of doing business due to "the green movement," since many companies rely on gasoline for their vehicles, and also gasoline for their planes to transport items. Not to mention, the Democrats and lefties (see Europe) want to tell Apple to conform to less profitable guidelines, like opening up the App Store, which that alone has an effect on profits.
People are tired of jobs being sent overseas. Apple has a choice -- either move some of the manufacturing out of China and back to the U.S. and pay significantly less taxes, or continue to do the stupid thing and keep manfacturing in China and pay the tarriffs.
I don't know why people feel sorry for Apple here. Apple doesn't make life saving products, or sell food, drinks, or other essential goods to people -- they sell laptops, tablets, and cell phones. If people don't want to pay the tarriffs in the end, buy a Samsung phone.
Not my fight here, but the world economic ruin was China's fault -- the very country we're trying to impose tarriffs on. Before COVID, inflation was at record lows and gas prices were stablized and low, and the unemployment rate was at an all-time low. Taxes were lowered significantly on business from 35% to 21%, and taxes were lowered for the middle class.
It's almost like people can't see farther back than 2020.
Have you ever seen bell curve? It's quite easy to see how you and 77 million other voters are on the left side of one that would clearly support the claim.
Math is not “opinions.” Take your alternative facts elsewhere.