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What will the Mac Pro 'November Surprise' be?

  • New Mini Tower form factor with easy expansion, whipping Mac enthusiasts into a frenzy of delight

    Votes: 19 9.2%
  • Designating some sort of high powered iMac as the new 'Mac Pro', discontinuing cylinder

    Votes: 20 9.7%
  • Spinning off PC operations into separate company, owned by Mac executives

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Selling PC operations to some Lenovo type company

    Votes: 4 1.9%
  • Declaring an end to PC operations and donating OSX to some sort of open source project

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Upgrade the Cylinder to the latest technology

    Votes: 46 22.2%
  • Selling OSX as stand alone software supporting designated 'Hackintosh' configurations

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • No November surprise, fog and uncertainty

    Votes: 110 53.1%
  • Other (specify in notes)

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Doesn't matter, Anything Tim does will be the Best of All Possible Worlds as far as I am concerned

    Votes: 2 1.0%

  • Total voters
    207

OS6-OSX

macrumors 6502a
Jun 13, 2004
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Or an October surprise! A real Trick or Treat!:p
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NY Guitarist

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Mar 21, 2011
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Pure speculation on my part: ARM based 'Mac' Mini and Macbook Air laptops.

MAYBE a slightly upgraded Mac Pro.
 

ITguy2016

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May 25, 2016
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What happened to October? First it was June, then September, then October (which isn't over yet), and now we're on to November? What is the basis for a November event?
 
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iMcLovin

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Feb 11, 2009
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I think the Mac Pro will be discontinued. Apple will focus on major consumer based computers in the future and first off the Mac Pro will die. The iMac will slowly get the same fate with less frequent updates and less impressive internals. Apples grand scheme will be to replace all machines with custom apple/arm based cpus and every machine they create will be thin, small and mobile and sexy... made as an expansion to the iOS devices and mundane tasks such as web browsing and word/excel tasks which most people do. I don't think apple see a link between the success of the Macs and iOS and they don't see the future being in need of high end desktop computers except for a small number (in their measurements) of pro users - and they don't care much to have a stake at that market. And to answer thread starters , I think the Mac Pro will be discontinued the same way as the apple display. likely the current model could be the last. This is the only reasonable explanation why there has been no updates despite it should have been a fairly easy task to update the Mac Pro and slap on the "new" tag again.
 
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h9826790

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Apr 3, 2014
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When Apple talked about the upcoming APFS filesystem, they said how in use it's going to scale from the Apple Watch to the Mac Pro. APFS is still in development, so to me that is an obvious forward-looking statement about the continued existence of the Mac Pro product line.

But this statement didn't stop Apple make the next so call Mac Pro may be actually an iPad Pro.
 

Philocetes

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Original poster
Sep 23, 2016
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@iMcLovin well reasoned response, and I find it pretty persuasive given the facts before is. I suppose if they are going to let the mac pro go, the exit strategy can be to just keep selling what the factories are geared up for to make as much money as possible without any new investments. Its pretty cynical to not be candid with the user base, but perhaps that's considered a minor group to offend. Personally, I have stocked up on cMPs and will use those till they break, and maybe a hack in the future if my computing needs unexpectedly skyrocket (I am getting into video).

Windows is always out there, and I have win10 at home on a vm as I need it to remote into work, but as to switching my mail music and video editing to it--no need at this point.
 
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Hank Carter

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Oct 1, 2015
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I think the Mac Pro will be discontinued. Apple will focus on major consumer based computers in the future and first off the Mac Pro will die. The iMac will slowly get the same fate with less frequent updates and less impressive internals. Apples grand scheme will be to replace all machines with custom apple/arm based cpus and every machine they create will be thin, small and mobile and sexy... made as an expansion to the iOS devices and mundane tasks such as web browsing and word/excel tasks which most people do. I don't think apple see a link between the success of the Macs and iOS and they don't see the future being in need of high end desktop computers except for a small number (in their measurements) of pro users - and they don't care much to have a stake at that market. And to answer thread starters , I think the Mac Pro will be discontinued the same way as the apple display. likely the current model could be the last. This is the only reasonable explanation why there has been no updates despite it should have been a fairly easy task to update the Mac Pro and slap on the "new" tag again.


I would be surprised if OS X isn't dead in 5 years or less.

It's starting to look like Apple is seeking a transition to iOS and will simply let the Mac die a slow death. If they keep updating the Mac OS and hardware at the current rate sales will drop off a cliff as customers walk away in disgust. Then they will be able to use the old 'Oh well, the Mac wasn't selling' excuse to put it out to pasture. Professionals or anyone else in need of a device that is more than an oversized iPhone will switch to Windows. Sooner or later we'll probably see some sort of Surface style iPad device with a marginally more sophisticated version of iOS and a keyboard that may be picked up by the MacBook Air crowd.

Since the passing of Jobs there is no one left at Apple who is an advocate for the Mac. Tim 'Stay Tuned' Cook certainly isn't. The rest of management is busy with the iPhone, services, the music business or fashion industry. Jony looks to be borderline retired, with someone like Mac Newson waiting in the wings.
 

jwpoof

macrumors member
Jan 11, 2006
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I hope Apple doesn't pull a FCPX; make an iMac Pro model and call it an 'upgrade'.

If they do, then that iMac will have to be more powerful than anything in the current Mac Pro lineup, from the standpoint of both CPU and GPU. The FCPX team held a NDA-bound sneak preview of the future of that platform months ago for users. As a professional user of FCPX, it makes NO sense for Apple to continue to develop FCPX while simultaneously eliminating the computers that run it best.

I have a cylinder and I continually push it to the limit using FCPX. I know people are down on Apple (me too), but again, it makes no sense to have aggressive plans for the future of your editing platform while getting rid of the desktop machines that run it best. As currently configured, an iMac doesn't come close to replacing a Mac Pro in terms of durability and consistent, non-throttled encoding, rendering, and use.

If Apple gets rid of the Mac Pro and fails to replace it with something more powerful and capable, then FCPX would be on the chopping block too. And given that it is widely believed to be the most-installed editing platform in the world, I find that unlikely.

I find it more likely that Apple would actually re-introduce an expandable tower than eliminate the line altogether. And I'm not holding my breath on that. I think they'd partner with HP and produce a Z-series with OS X before completely eliminating the option.
 
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Jack Burton

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Feb 27, 2015
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I need a tower, or at the very least, an nVidia graphics option in a blistering fast quad core iMac. This past week two more plugins for my apps of choice just went with Cuda, and two more have only "limited" open cl support (translation, not full production ready).

If Apple discontinues the Mac Pro, or announces mac pros and iMacs with no nVidia option, I'm going to have no choice but to go completely with windows. This time, though, I'm cleaning house.

I need a new phone. Would love an iPhone 7 despite the lack of headphone jack, but if I can't get a mac that meets my needs I'm moving out of Apple's ecosystem all together. Selling the iPad Air 2, going Android flagship for a phone, and ditching every other piece of mac hardware. Best to rip the band aid off all at once.

I LOVE using the mac. But I can't hang around waiting for master to give Dobby a sock. I've got work to do.
 

koyoot

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Jun 5, 2012
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I need a tower, or at the very least, an nVidia graphics option in a blistering fast quad core iMac. This past week two more plugins for my apps of choice just went with Cuda, and two more have only "limited" open cl support (translation, not full production ready).

If Apple discontinues the Mac Pro, or announces mac pros and iMacs with no nVidia option, I'm going to have no choice but to go completely with windows. This time, though, I'm cleaning house.

I need a new phone. Would love an iPhone 7 despite the lack of headphone jack, but if I can't get a mac that meets my needs I'm moving out of Apple's ecosystem all together. Selling the iPad Air 2, going Android flagship for a phone, and ditching every other piece of mac hardware. Best to rip the band aid off all at once.

I LOVE using the mac. But I can't hang around waiting for master to give Dobby a sock. I've got work to do.
Sorry my friend, but don't wait. If you will wait, you will get hugely disappointed with Apple offering no Nvidia hardware in their computers.
 

Jack Burton

macrumors 6502a
Feb 27, 2015
844
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Sorry my friend, but don't wait. If you will wait, you will get hugely disappointed with Apple offering no Nvidia hardware in their computers.

Well, I'm also waiting for my bank account to build up a bit more and I'm in the middle of some animation classes, so I'll be busy. So waiting is kind of necessary. ;) Plus my 5.5 year old overclocked franken PC still holds its own against a non overclocked skylake like the iMac.

Plus I wouldn't mind Kaby Lake coming out to see what that's like. If it isn't the new hotness we are hoping for, at the very least it might mean a drop in skylake prices.

I think my needs will most likely mean going for the highest clock speed processor intel has and throwing serious dough behind some nVidia GPUs. The whole CG industry is moving that way. I'm willing to eat some cost and go with an external GPU on an iMac if necessary (or if possible), but at this point what's another 3 months of waiting?
 
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