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MP 6,1 Latest Boot ROM and SMC version on Mac Pro Late 2013 (trashcan)

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dtelena

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Hi, I am planning to upgrade the SSD on my Mac Pro 2013 (trashcan) with a third party NVME drive and all of them seems to require to have the latest Boot ROM version / SMC version in order to work properly with the machine. My system is showing Boot ROM Version: 130.0.0.0.0 and SMC Version (system): 2.20f18

Are these the latest versions available ? Thanks.
 
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dtelena said:
Hi, I am planning to upgrade the SSD on my Mac Pro 2013 (trashcan) with a third party NVME drive and all of them seems to require to have the latest Boot ROM version / SMC version in order to work properly with the machine. My system is showing Boot ROM Version: 130.0.0.0.0 and SMC Version (system): 2.20f18

Are these the latest versions available ? Thanks.
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If you've installed 10.14.5 or the last security updates for either Sierra or High Sierra, you have the latest versions. This list should be accurate as well: https://eclecticlight.co/2018/10/31/which-efi-firmware-should-your-mac-be-using-version-3/
 
th0masp

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Mine is at 127.0.0.0.0 or something - the version that came with one of the earliest Mojave releases. Works fine with an NVMe as it is so I don't think you'll strictly need the absolute 'latest & greatest', just needs to be recent enough to include boot support for this kind of drive.
 
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dtelena said:
My system is showing Boot ROM Version: 130.0.0.0.0 and SMC Version (system): 2.20f18

Are these the latest versions available ? Thanks.
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Mine is also showing Boot ROM Version 130.0.0.0.0 and SMC Version 2.20f18. I'm running Mojave 10.14.5 so I assume these to be the latest versions. The link mentioned above confirms 130.0.0.0.0 is the latest Boot ROM Version; nobody seems to bother keeping track of SMC versions.
 
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smbu2000

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Mine is the same: 130.0.0.0.0 and SMC 2.20f18 running Mojave 10.14.5.

edit: Looks like 10.14.6 updated the bootrom again as it is now 132.0.0.0.0 on my 6,1.
 
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tsialex

tsialex

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10.16 DP3 has a new MP6,1 BootROM:

Code: 
$IBIOSI$ MP61.88Z.F000.B00.1906132222
Copyright (c) 2005-2019 Apple Inc.  All rights reserved.
Apple ROM Version
  Model:        MP61
  EFI Version:  132.0.0.0.0
  Built by:     root@saumon
  Date:         Thu Jun 13 22:22:30 PDT 2019
  Revision:     132 (B&I)
  ROM Version:  F000_B00
  Build Type:   Official Build, Release
  Compiler:     Apple clang version 3.0 (tags/Apple/clang-211.10.1) (based on LLVM 3.0svn)

10.15 DP3 EFI Version table for non BridgeOS Macs:

(Almost all Catalina supported Macs had firmware upgrades, most got two versions over)

Mac:EFI version:
IM13,1287.0.0.0.0
IM14,1139.0.0.0.0
IM14,2139.0.0.0.0
IM14,3139.0.0.0.0
IM14,4199.0.0.0.0
IM15,1230.0.0.0.0
IM16,1229.0.0.0.0
IM16,2229.0.0.0.0
IM17,1170.0.0.0.0
IM18,1175.0.0.0.0
IM18,3175.0.0.0.0
IM19,11022.0.0.0.0
MB10,1178.0.0.0.0
MB8,1183.0.0.0.0
MB9,1184.0.0.0.0
MBA5,1259.0.0.0.0
MBA6,1117.0.0.0.0
MBA7,1188.0.0.0.0
MBP10,1257.0.0.0.0
MBP10,2280.0.0.0.0
MBP11,1156.0.0.0.0
MBP11,2156.0.0.0.0
MBP11,4194.0.0.0.0
MBP12,1186.0.0.0.0
MBP13,1236.0.0.0.0
MBP13,2259.0.0.0.0
MBP13,3259.0.0.0.0
MBP14,1198.0.0.0.0
MBP14,2198.0.0.0.0
MBP14,3198.0.0.0.0
MBP9,1228.0.0.0.0
MM6,1280.0.0.0.0
MM7,1244.0.0.0.0
MP6,1132.0.0.0.0
 
bitnaut

bitnaut

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Mine is showing 129.0.0.0.0 and fails the integrity check when I run eficheck in Terminal. I’m running latest Catalina DP5. How do I force a firmware update?
 
tsialex

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bitnaut said:
Mine is showing 129.0.0.0.0 and fails the integrity check when I run eficheck in Terminal. I’m running latest Catalina DP5. How do I force a firmware update?
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Reinstall your Apple SSD and boot 10.14.6, doing so will upgrade the firmware to the current one. Catalina firmware upgrades are not consistently working, worked for some of the releases and not for others.
 
bitnaut

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I’ve never removed my Apple SSD and now that I’m in Catalina, it refuses to boot via USB. Maybe I have a bad USB...I’ll try another.

* UPDATE *

Curiously during boot, my USB ports are turned off but I was able to get around this by connecting an old FireWire 800 compact flash reader to a Thunderbolt to FireWire adapter and boot from that....currently installing Mojave but still no firmware update indication.

* UPDATE 2 *

Yup, downgrading to Mojave fixed the firmware. Now at 132.0.0.0.0.

Thanks @tsialex!
 
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dtelena said:
Hi, I am planning to upgrade the SSD on my Mac Pro 2013 (trashcan) with a third party NVME drive and all of them seems to require to have the latest Boot ROM version / SMC version in order to work properly with the machine. My system is showing Boot ROM Version: 130.0.0.0.0 and SMC Version (system): 2.20f18

Are these the latest versions available ? Thanks.
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Any news regarding the latest MP 6,1 firmware after installing 10.15.1?
 
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Apple released 134.0.0.0.0 today with 10.15.3 DP2.

Code: 
$IBIOSI$    MP61.88Z.F000.B00.1912181758
Copyright (c) 2005-2019 Apple Inc.  
All rights reserved.
Apple ROM Version
  Model:        MP61
  EFI Version:  134.0.0.0.0
  Built by:     root@saumon
  Date:         Wed Dec 18 17:58:11 PST 2019
  Revision:     134 (B&I)
  ROM Version:  F000_B00
  Build Type:   Official Build, Release
  Compiler:     Apple clang version 3.0 (tags/Apple/clang-211.10.1) (based on LLVM 3.0svn)
 
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Apple released 10.15.4 DP4 (19E250c) today.

MP61:
Code: 
$IBIOSI$    MP61.88Z.F000.B00.2002052032
Copyright (c) 2005-2020 Apple Inc.  All rights reserved.
Apple ROM Version
  Model:        MP61
  EFI Version:  135.0.0.0.0
  Built by:     root@saumon
  Date:         Wed Feb  5 20:32:36 PST 2020
  Revision:     135 (B&I)
  ROM Version:  F000_B00
  Build Type:   Official Build, Release
  Compiler:     Apple clang version 3.0 (tags/Apple/clang-211.10.1) (based on LLVM 3.0svn)
 
loby

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What is the terminal command to check the EFI version? Thanks in advance.
 
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loby said:
What is the terminal command to check the EFI version? Thanks in advance.
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You can't get the same I post here, it's from the firmware code, but you can easily check the version from terminal.

Code: 
system_profiler SPHardwareDataType

You can grep/parse and refine the results:

Code: 
system_profiler SPHardwareDataType | grep -i "Version" | awk -F ':' '{print $1 $2}'
 
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New BootROM for late-2013 Mac Pro released with 10.15.5 DP4 (19F83c).

MP6,1:

Code: 
$IBIOSI$    MP61.88Z.F000.B00.2004121755
Copyright (c) 2005-2020 Apple Inc.  All rights reserved
Apple ROM Version
  Model:        MP61
  EFI Version:  136.0.0.0.0
  Built by:     root@saumon
  Date:         Sun Apr 12 17:55:07 PDT 2020
  Revision:     136 (B&I)
  ROM Version:  F000_B00
  Build Type:   Official Build, Release
  Compiler:     Apple clang version 3.0 (tags/Apple/clang-211.10.1) (based on LLVM 3.0svn)
 
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tsialex

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Apple just released 10.15.6 DP3 build 19G60d. This one has a new EFI firmware for late-2013 Mac Pro:


MP6,1:
Code: 
$IBIOSI$    MP61.88Z.F000.B00.2006101810
Copyright (c) 2005-2020 Apple Inc.  All rights reserved.
  Model:        MP61
  EFI Version:  137.0.0.0.0
  Built by:     root@saumon
  Date:         Wed Jun 10 18:10:26 PDT 2020
  Revision:     137 (B&I)
  ROM Version:  F000_B00
  Build Type:   Official Build, Release
  Compiler:     Apple clang version 3.0 (tags/Apple/clang-211.10.1) (based on LLVM 3.0svn)
 
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John Boydon

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I have just updated my MacPro6,1 to latest version of Catalina 10.15.6 19G73 from 10.15.5 and my Boot ROM version moved from 136.0.0.0.0 to 137.0.0.0.0.

The strange thing is that I have Intel SSD and to update Boot ROM I didn't swap it with an apple SSD.


Code: 
Boot ROM Version 137.0.0.0.0
SMC Version (system) 2.20f18
Panel Illumination Version 1.4a6
 
loby

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John Boydon said:
I have just updated my MacPro6,1 to latest version of Catalina 10.15.6 19G73 from 10.15.5 and my Boot ROM version moved from 136.0.0.0.0 to 137.0.0.0.0.

The strange thing is that I have Intel SSD and to update Boot ROM I didn't swap it with an apple SSD.


Code: 
Boot ROM Version 137.0.0.0.0
SMC Version (system) 2.20f18
Panel Illumination Version 1.4a6
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Same here...have an OWC Aura Pro X2 and it updated as well. :)

Anyone know what this update did?
 
bitnaut

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Damn, I didn’t even try with my 2GB 970 Evo Plus...just swapped with original boot drive as we’ve all been trained To do.
 
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dtelena

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Anyone else could confirm that now when updating to macOS Catalina 10.15.6 the BootROM can be updated as well but with any NVME brand installed ? If this is true then there would be no point anymore to keep or keep buying an Apple OEM SSD drive just to be able to update the BootROM version of the machine, right ?
 
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Yeah you can update the Boot ROM now with a 3rd party NVMe installed. Apple enabled that a couple updates ago. If I recall correctly tsialex mentioned which version that was in another thread. However, it still needs to be identified as an internal drive. If you have it installed on a carrier board like the AngelShark then that will have to be removed first.

So no reason to keep an Apple OEM SSD handy. I've read there was an issue with a panic if Boot Camp is used on a 3rd party NVMe, but I haven't tested that to see if that's been resolved too.
 
drbill

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loby said:
Same here...have an OWC Aura Pro X2 and it updated as well. :)

Anyone know what this update did?
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Any ideas as to why my MacPro6,1 with OWC aura pro X2 Boot ROM remains at MP61.0120.B00 or what I can do to get it updated if in fact the Boot ROM now updates with 3rd party NVMe installed? I just updated 10.15.6 -> 10.15.7
 
John Boydon

John Boydon

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I have done same update: 10.15.6 -> 10.15.7 and the Boot ROM doesn't change version, still 137.0.0.0.0 as it was on 10.15.6.

drbill said:
Any ideas as to why my MacPro6,1 with OWC aura pro X2 Boot ROM remains at MP61.0120.B00 or what I can do to get it updated if in fact the Boot ROM now updates with 3rd party NVMe installed? I just updated 10.15.6 -> 10.15.7
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BTW, your Boot ROM version (MP61.0120.B00) doesn't match with the format we are used to.

regards
j
 
drbill

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John Boydon said:
I have done same update: 10.15.6 -> 10.15.7 and the Boot ROM doesn't change version, still 137.0.0.0.0 as it was on 10.15.6.



BTW, your Boot ROM version (MP61.0120.B00) doesn't match with the format we are used to.

regards
j
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I have had my MacPro since 2014 and installed the aura pro X2 in 2018. The MP61.0120.B00 Boot ROM came with High Sierra update in 2017 and included support for NVMe booting. Why has Boot ROM not updated since? Latest MacPro6,1 Boot ROM is 137.0.0.0.0

System Report:

Screen Shot 2020-09-25 at 10.46.15 AM.png
 
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