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Lawmakers Express Concern Over Apple's 'Anticompetitive Treatment' of iMessage for Android App
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lol what? beeper is stealing apple's services and now law makers are concerned? dumb af
I can give you three very recent examples.
1. Apple’s fight against USB C, which is far superior than lightning.
2. Apple’s fight against side loading.. which gives users and publishers a choice.
3. Apple’s fight against open communication standards like RCS.
It's not monopolistic to create a platform. You can make an argument that the law here is being perverted to suggesting Apple must open up because it's *popular*. That's not antitrust behaviour. It's a feature of the phone.
The onus should not be on Apple to remove functionality in order to allow other platforms to use it. If anything, Apple should have a choice whether it wants to join the 80% and add RCS interoperability… not the other way around.
The onus should not be on Apple to remove functionality in order to allow other platforms to use it. If anything, Apple should have a choice whether it wants to join the 80% and add RCS interoperability… not the other way around.
If we’re bringing side loading into this, when do you end the era of Apple contributing to open standards? The App SDK came out like 15 years ago. They had two different proprietary monitor ports in the 90s/2000s, but they did contribute to the (open) USB-C standard and were one of the first manufacturers to put them on laptops. Their record has always been wishy washy, imo. Great example is FaceTime was supposed to be an open standard but they backed out after some patent wars and then never resumed when they ended.
1. Superiority doesn't mean a company should have to throw out its innovations. The amount of e-waste created for this change will be enormous.
2. Sideloading presumes a lot, and it ruins the security principle that most people take for granted.
3. Apple isn't "fighting" RCS. It's saying RCS shouldn't have the right to crack open the wildly successful and secure iMessage platform.
Your arguments aren't that sound.
I kinda shocked most here are missing the point and defending the Apple shield. The only thing I can gather is iPhone people never text any non-iPhone people. No one cares about bubble color. Irrelevant. The point of interoperability is to give everyone a quality experience. Group chats work as intended.They don't now. Photo and video content isn't compressed so it look like garbage. It isn't now. Messages get encrypted because it isn't using archaic MMS/SMS as a protocol. They don't now.
No one cares about iMessage on Android or any other platform. It's about the experience if you dare choose not to have an iPhone and vice versa. Multimedia going from Android to iPhone looks like garbage as well. Everyone benefits and the exclusivity club gets to keep their precious bubble colors. It should not be this way in 2023 and I don't know how anyone can argue against it.
No one cares about iMessage on Android or any other platform. It's about the experience if you dare choose not to have an iPhone and vice versa. Multimedia going from Android to iPhone looks like garbage as well. Everyone benefits and the exclusivity club gets to keep their precious bubble colors. It should not be this way in 2023 and I don't know how anyone can argue against it.
So it’s illegal for a company to pick which platforms they want their own messaging service to be on?
This is beyond ridiculous, iMessage was made by Apple, Beeper was just using iMessage services without Apple’s consent.
This is beyond ridiculous, iMessage was made by Apple, Beeper was just using iMessage services without Apple’s consent.
Apple contributed a great deal in creating Thunderbolt and also contributed a lot in Bluetooth and Wireless standards. They are slowly becoming like Old Microsoft while Microsoft has embraced Open Source and Open Standards under the current CEO. My issue is not with what they do with their proprietary apps or services but what lengths they go to keep it all locked up. This is a terrible stance to take for a tech company and is equivalent to rent seeking.
I feel like Apple was too nice here… instead of claiming it was about security, they should’ve come straight out and said this company was illegally using our servers/ service and we shut them out.
Worse, that blockhead complains that Apple has an iMessage monopoly. The non SMS parts of iMessage are Apple’s lol. Of course it has a monopoly on what it created.
Name another industry where if someone does an "experience" better, all the other companies have a right to attain their level of service by forcing the superior vendor to share.
Apple has every right to block access to their services.
Lawmakers have every right to determine if their practices are monopolistic as defined by the law of the land.
All that being said, it’s difficult to listen to Apple bring up messaging security in their defense of limiting/blocking Beeper when the current system defaults to SMS, the least secure offering available.
I’d respect their answer more if they just said it’s our system and it’s profitable for us to protect it. At least it wouldn’t be a sanctimonious pile of monkey poop.
Lawmakers have every right to determine if their practices are monopolistic as defined by the law of the land.
All that being said, it’s difficult to listen to Apple bring up messaging security in their defense of limiting/blocking Beeper when the current system defaults to SMS, the least secure offering available.
I’d respect their answer more if they just said it’s our system and it’s profitable for us to protect it. At least it wouldn’t be a sanctimonious pile of monkey poop.
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The whole business plan of this ‘company’ was to achieve this: get the attention by crying about… oh whatever.
I’m tired of this nonsense. Make your own message service like WhatsApp, Signal etc. Create your own added value in a saturated message market instead of piggybacking on the ‘Apple is evil’ bandwagon.
I’m tired of this nonsense. Make your own message service like WhatsApp, Signal etc. Create your own added value in a saturated message market instead of piggybacking on the ‘Apple is evil’ bandwagon.
1. Lightning was an innovation in 2012. Today its just a relic. The E-waste concern is genuine but can be easily resolved by a $9 USB-C to Lightning Connector.
2. Why does this security principle only apply to Apple's iOS products and not Macs?
3. Apple is in fact fighting adapting to an open standard of secure and universal messaging. RCS is more secure than iMessage actually.
In the long term it should not and should lead to actually less e-waste, at least according to the studies presented in support of the EU directive.
Sideloading will not be mandatory. Users which only trust the Apple's App Store still will have the ability to exclusively use App Store applications.
RCS has nothing to do with "cracking iMessage": Apple will support RCS which will allow better interoperability with other messaging platforms, but it will not be at the detriment of iMessage as it's a completely separate protocol.
RCS currently doesn't even have a standard for E2E encryption and Apple will not implement third-party extensions to the standard, so iMessage will still have E2E encryption while RCS messages will not and will appear green.
1. Apple was using USB-C in many other places except the iPhone.
2. Go complain about side stepping app restrictions on console and see where that gets you.
3. Apple had to take RCS with the carriers and GSM. Recall that Google RCS is *Google’s* RCS not GSM’s RCS.
Politicians are idiots. This is Apple’s private infrastructure. If they were to force others to use it (those that are not Apple customers at that) then anyone should be able to use Twitter and Reddit APIs for free too.
With RCS support coming there shouldn’t be any legitimate gripes.
With RCS support coming there shouldn’t be any legitimate gripes.
People will still complain. They will cry about bubble colors or that 3rd party E2E isn’t supported.
Reverse engineering, under most circumstances, is completely legal. They didn't crack encryption, break into Apple's servers, or anything that would violate the CFAA.
So if imessages has to work every where feature for feature, shouldn’t all software? How come we can have Switch exclusives? Windows only?
Apple has a product set unique to their hardware - why is that bad? Don’t like it, use another app or device. As said, if Apple has to make iMessages open, shouldn’t WhatsApp be open too??
ugh.
Apple has a product set unique to their hardware - why is that bad? Don’t like it, use another app or device. As said, if Apple has to make iMessages open, shouldn’t WhatsApp be open too??
ugh.
This is not true at all.
Apple created iMessage as a way to extend SMS's limited capabilities for iPhone users.
RCS was created by GSM Association to replace SMS. Like Apple before it, Google extended RCS on their own Google Messages app with missing features, such as end to end encryption. To date, Google has not submitted their own end-to-end encryption to RCS standard.