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gotluck

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Well, see I have a rMBP and an iPad 2 anyway. I might trade up my Nexus 4 for an iPhone 6 if the screen is bigger though, iOS 8 addresses all the problems I had with iOS but of course YMMV.

So you can see how I would take issue with the statement that iOS integration is better. Only if you have a Mac. If not, it's worse for sure.
 

Robster3

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Android is the not the problem its the phones that have to run it, there is not one flagship phone this year that is up to it.
 

HishamAkhtar

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Android is the not the problem its the phones that have to run it, there is not one flagship phone this year that is up to it.

Agreed. Which is weird considering how good the offerings were last year. Sony Z2 and One M8 look the best but they still have question marks. S5 not performing has been a huge let down for Android overall.

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I assume most Android users also have a Mac. Sorry my bad.

This is what has kept me on the iPhone. The integration with Macs and iPads is so good that it's hard to leave the Apple ecosystem.
 

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Put me under this category. I'm probably selling all my Androids and jumping back to iOS next month.

I love Android, but the terrible integration with my cars and various devices around the house is getting annoying. iOS just works better for some things.

However, depending on how great the Note 4 will be, I'm holding off to make a choice between the two.
 

AustinIllini

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Android is the not the problem its the phones that have to run it, there is not one flagship phone this year that is up to it.

Agreed. Which is weird considering how good the offerings were last year. Sony Z2 and One M8 look the best but they still have question marks. S5 not performing has been a huge let down for Android overall.

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This is what has kept me on the iPhone. The integration with Macs and iPads is so good that it's hard to leave the Apple ecosystem.

I echo both of these sentiments. The build quality of the Nexus 5 is unacceptable. The radio cuts out, the battery is of questionable integrity, and the build material just isn't there. Until Google mans up and releases a vanilla android, top of the line phone, I will be going to iOS for the foreseeable future.

Maybe Android Silver is it, but that is still a pipe dream at this point.
 

Vegastouch

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I echo both of these sentiments. The build quality of the Nexus 5 is unacceptable. The radio cuts out, the battery is of questionable integrity, and the build material just isn't there. Until Google mans up and releases a vanilla android, top of the line phone, I will be going to iOS for the foreseeable future.

Maybe Android Silver is it, but that is still a pipe dream at this point.

Intereseting, i think the build quality of the Nexus 5 is great and im disapointed HTC is going to build the next one and will probably have an aluminum back on it like the Nexus 8 or 9 rumor has it.....whatever it will be called. Id much prefer the build of the current Nexus 7 and 5 to those.
 

AustinIllini

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Intereseting, i think the build quality of the Nexus 5 is great and im disapointed HTC is going to build the next one and will probably have an aluminum back on it like the Nexus 8 or 9 rumor has it.....whatever it will be called. Id much prefer the build of the current Nexus 7 and 5 to those.

Google did the best they could to create a $350 developer android phone. What I think a number of us are looking for is what is literally an iPhone quality device running the unadulterated, up-to-date Android build.

Obviously, that device does not exist. HTC, Motorola, and Samsung have flagship phones which, for all the positives they provide, are still subservient to the carrier and OEM upgrade policies.
 

Lloydbm41

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Put me under this category. I'm probably selling all my Androids and jumping back to iOS next month.

I love Android, but the terrible integration with my cars and various devices around the house is getting annoying. iOS just works better for some things.

However, depending on how great the Note 4 will be, I'm holding off to make a choice between the two.

Curious what kind of car you have, because my Moto X works flawlessly over A2DP via BT on my Volt.
I'll be comparing it to the iPhone 6 (once I get it), but I can't imagine how things can get any better.
 

Vegastouch

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Google did the best they could to create a $350 developer android phone. What I think a number of us are looking for is what is literally an iPhone quality device running the unadulterated, up-to-date Android build.

Obviously, that device does not exist. HTC, Motorola, and Samsung have flagship phones which, for all the positives they provide, are still subservient to the carrier and OEM upgrade policies.

If you want that you probably will have to get the Silver line. Nexus phones are always going to be a developer line and they were never intended to be iPhone quality, but for me, they are fine and the Nexus 5 imo is pretty damn good for a developer phone.

I love the back on the N5 a lot more than the HTC M8 and the iPhone. You will probably get what you are looking for with the Silver line but it wont be $350.

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Curious what kind of car you have, because my Moto X works flawlessly over A2DP via BT on my Volt.
I'll be comparing it to the iPhone 6 (once I get it), but I can't imagine how things can get any better.

Agree. We have a 2013 Nissan Altima and my N5 works good in that. In fact the car funcuality can be better because you cant send a text back handsfree because you have to choose one of their replies and they rarely match what i want to say and it just doesnt do everything well that it is supposed to.

My 2007 Dodge Ram doesnt have Bluetooth capability so i use a Motorola Roadster and that thing works great. Much better than the cars bluetooth does. So yeah id say its the cars fault if things arent working good.

I used to work at Toyota as recently as 2012 and not every phone worked well with them.
 

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Curious what kind of car you have, because my Moto X works flawlessly over A2DP via BT on my Volt.
I'll be comparing it to the iPhone 6 (once I get it), but I can't imagine how things can get any better.

I have two cars. Audi S7 and BMW X5.

On both cars, the basic functions (with my Androids) work well, such as contact syncing, taking and receiving calls, but the problems occur during A2DP streaming. It's slow to respond when I switch the track, or it just doesn't work. Or the meta-tag data doesn't update on the MMI/iDrive screen.

Now if I plug in my 5S to my X5, I get album art and I can control Spotify, etc from the iDrive controller. Same with the Audi. The integration is just superior.

Now I'm sure once CarPlay and Android Auto take off, all of this will change. Audi is one of the first makers to sign up for both CarPlay and Android Auto. I'm excited to see what the future holds.
 

Lloydbm41

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I have two cars. Audi S7 and BMW X5.

On both cars, the basic functions (with my Androids) work well, such as contact syncing, taking and receiving calls, but the problems occur during A2DP streaming. It's slow to respond when I switch the track, or it just doesn't work. Or the meta-tag data doesn't update on the MMI/iDrive screen.

Now if I plug in my 5S to my X5, I get album art and I can control Spotify, etc from the iDrive controller. Same with the Audi. The integration is just superior.

Now I'm sure once CarPlay and Android Auto take off, all of this will change. Audi is one of the first makers to sign up for both CarPlay and Android Auto. I'm excited to see what the future holds.
Ahh, I see where you are coming from. Meta-Data/Album art is slow to update (or doesn't update at all depending on the app) with Android. This I have noticed now that you mention it.
I don't have any issues switching tracks when using music on the phone, but do get a 1-2 second delay when using Pandora or Songza, But this is due to connection speed to the internet, isn't it? Takes time to get the next song from the cloud?

BTW, I can control streaming and on phone music via my Volts steering wheel controls. Maybe a software difference in A2DP between my car and yours? No idea? But if the iphone6 integrates into my cars system better than my Moto X, I will be one happy person.
 

flameproof

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I like Android but do get frustrated at times with their apps. Because I use my iPad Mini daily I get to compare the equivalent app on iOS and it's always consistently better. For this reason I'm seriously considering the iPhone 6.

I used an iPhone for 2 years (and still use it as a 2nd out-of-country-phone) and switched to the Nexus 5 late last year. And I never looked back. There is not a single app of function I miss (other then battery life).

Screen size aside, what I love most was getting rid of iTunes. On Android it's also easier to move files around, lets say to Whatsapp or Wechat. Then I can edit text files that I have a Dropbox (can't do in iOS). I don't really like to type a lot on the phone, but the Android keyboard were you swoosh over the keys and not really type is also a way better experience.

The Nexus is also way faster then my iPhone, and I can do wireless charging. And then it's just half the price....

I still use the iPhone when I am out of country - and that's a good reminder that I won't buy any iPhone again. Ever.
 

blairh

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I used an iPhone for 2 years (and still use it as a 2nd out-of-country-phone) and switched to the Nexus 5 late last year. And I never looked back. There is not a single app of function I miss (other then battery life).

Screen size aside, what I love most was getting rid of iTunes. On Android it's also easier to move files around, lets say to Whatsapp or Wechat. Then I can edit text files that I have a Dropbox (can't do in iOS). I don't really like to type a lot on the phone, but the Android keyboard were you swoosh over the keys and not really type is also a way better experience.

The Nexus is also way faster then my iPhone, and I can do wireless charging. And then it's just half the price....

I still use the iPhone when I am out of country - and that's a good reminder that I won't buy any iPhone again. Ever.

I just find iOS app quality to be superior to Android. Also I use Google Music now so it's irrelevant if I choose iOS or Android as they both have a dedicated app. I think 3rd party keyboards in iOS 8 will allow this. Price is obviously a huge difference between the N5 and flagship iPhone.
 

Tig Bitties

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Why would I ever leave Android to go back to an iPhone ? Android phones have much better battery life, the new iPhone 6 I don't expect to be any better. Plus the new iPhone is just more of the same, nothing new except larger screen, but with an OS that looks like someone left the app drawer open the whole time.
 

flameproof

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I just find iOS app quality to be superior to Android.

I think you have to look at the individual apps you work with. There is no question that i.e. Dropbox works better on Android as iOS puts many restrictions on it.

Many app are totally not available on iOS at all, utorrent i.e., or a file browser of any form, something that's with us PC users since Windows 3.1 (and on DOS it was Norton Commander. )

For me it's hard to go back to iOS, that gives me less for double the price. (I would not consider the high end Samsung phones though simply for the price)
 

blairh

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I think you have to look at the individual apps you work with. There is no question that i.e. Dropbox works better on Android as iOS puts many restrictions on it.

Many app are totally not available on iOS at all, utorrent i.e., or a file browser of any form, something that's with us PC users since Windows 3.1 (and on DOS it was Norton Commander. )

For me it's hard to go back to iOS, that gives me less for double the price. (I would not consider the high end Samsung phones though simply for the price)

It's a widely believed statement. iOS apps tend to be more polished. Better performing. I can personally speak to two apps that have performed very poorly for me consistently (Xfinity TV & Facebook Messenger) versus when I use them on my iPad. I can only speak for my needs but the things you state on Android are irrelevant for my needs. The price difference as I stated before is a huge advantage for the N5. However if I decide to get an iPhone 6 it will most likely be via a subsidized price.
 

Lloydbm41

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I think you have to look at the individual apps you work with. There is no question that i.e. Dropbox works better on Android as iOS puts many restrictions on it.

Many app are totally not available on iOS at all, utorrent i.e., or a file browser of any form, something that's with us PC users since Windows 3.1 (and on DOS it was Norton Commander. )

For me it's hard to go back to iOS, that gives me less for double the price. (I would not consider the high end Samsung phones though simply for the price)

I think with iCloud, the issue with lack of file browser/directory access becomes less relevant. Granted, you need cell reception or wi-fi to access your files, but the need for onboard access to files isn't a necessity it once was.

As for torrenting, Apple will likely never allow it, even though there are legit uses for it. But, be honest, most people use torrents for downloading pirated movies and TV shows. Apple has always been vehiment about stopping piracy.
 

Vegastouch

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It's a widely believed statement. iOS apps tend to be more polished. Better performing. I can personally speak to two apps that have performed very poorly for me consistently (Xfinity TV & Facebook Messenger) versus when I use them on my iPad. I can only speak for my needs but the things you state on Android are irrelevant for my needs. The price difference as I stated before is a huge advantage for the N5. However if I decide to get an iPhone 6 it will most likely be via a subsidized price.

And some arent. The Apps i use that are on both phones work the same from what ive seen. There are some great apps on Android that arent even on iOS and same for iOS that arent on Android.

The Facebook Messanger....that was screwed up by Facebook. It was working fine the way it was and now are making everyone download their Messenger app which i dont like as well.


One immediate negative i see for the iPhone 6, 4.7" screen is the battery is only going to be 1810 mAh which is only a little bigger than the 5s for a much bigger phone.
 

Shanghaichica

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It's a widely believed statement. iOS apps tend to be more polished. Better performing. I can personally speak to two apps that have performed very poorly for me consistently (Xfinity TV & Facebook Messenger) versus when I use them on my iPad. I can only speak for my needs but the things you state on Android are irrelevant for my needs. The price difference as I stated before is a huge advantage for the N5. However if I decide to get an iPhone 6 it will most likely be via a subsidized price.
Whilst I agree that some apps are better on iOS, Facebook is not one of them. The thing crashes a lot on both my ipad air and ipod touch 5th generation. Even the change log in the latest update States that it reduces the crash rate by about 50%.

I accept that everyone has their own preference, however I personally think that they both have their advantages and disadvantages which is why I own both.

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I think with iCloud, the issue with lack of file browser/directory access becomes less relevant. Granted, you need cell reception or wi-fi to access your files, but the need for onboard access to files isn't a necessity it once was.

As for torrenting, Apple will likely never allow it, even though there are legit uses for it. But, be honest, most people use torrents for downloading pirated movies and TV shows. Apple has always been vehiment about stopping piracy.

If you store a lot of files on your device then you need a good filing system to organise it all, otherwise it will be a mess and it will be hard to find anything.

I store a lot on my Samsung Galaxy S5 and I couldn't do the same on an iPhone as it would just be a huge mess.

However having said this, icloud drive looks promising and hopefully will address this.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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This thread is definitely reinforcing my next upgrade to the iPhone 6. I often look to see if I can be tempted back to android but when I look at people's reasons for loving android over iOS on many of these threads, none of it applies to my needs and makes me realise I'm getting a good experience on the platform I'm on. I left android because I wanted something different and I'm not bored of iOS just yet. :)
 

cracksoup

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If the iPhone 6 will have much better battery life than my Note 3 (which it just won't), I would be tempted. However, if I was going to switch, I would have to leave behind the S pen, great widgets, custom default apps, the ability to download whatever I want in the browser, Utorrent and much more.

I'm sure the iPhone 6 will be fantastic and I am tempted to buy one for the design and flawless apps. However, those reasons are not compelling enough to justify a purchase for $800 when I already have the more than capable Note 3.
 

yeongil

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After 5 years of using an iPhone, I jumped shipped to my first Android device in June of 2013. (S4 Active.)Since then I have also used the HTC First, Nexus 5, and now the Moto X.

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Curious if anybody who left their iPhone for a larger Android device will now consider jumping ship for a (finally) larger screened iPhone.
Hell no. I too went from an iPhone (4S) to a Samsung Galaxy S4 Active, but a little later than the OP (Sep 2013). I'm satisfied with my S4 Active, and I'd like to use it for another year, if possible.
 

blairh

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And some arent. The Apps i use that are on both phones work the same from what ive seen. There are some great apps on Android that arent even on iOS and same for iOS that arent on Android.

The Facebook Messanger....that was screwed up by Facebook. It was working fine the way it was and now are making everyone download their Messenger app which i dont like as well.


One immediate negative i see for the iPhone 6, 4.7" screen is the battery is only going to be 1810 mAh which is only a little bigger than the 5s for a much bigger phone.

Some aren't. Sure. It's an impossible thing to declare either way. I'll say that most (most) people regard iOS apps to be superior in performance. Others will disagree. But that's a widely believed sentiment. In my personal experience I believe iOS apps in general are superior in performance.

Facebook Messenger on Android has a known bug. Previously sent photos don't always reappear when you attempt to scroll back in your conversations. This has been a problem for me in the past. Facebook Messenger on iOS has never had this issue for me.

Xfinity TV, an app I attempt to use several times weekly, is completely unreliable.

I have zero concerns about the iPhone 6's battery life. To begin with, it isn't even out yet. I'll save judgement for professional reviews and forum users real world usage. I've also never owned a smartphone where the battery life has forced me to move onto something else. Perhaps this is simply how I use my phone daily. But I imagine I use my phone much like most others do too.

Today I learned that Verizon is now offering single line users a monthly rate of $60 for unlimited talk and text plus 2 GB of data. That is identical to what I'm getting now from AT&T but I'm paying $5 more a month. I'll reserve final judgment until the keynote but now the price of the phone isn't an issue.
 

Lloydbm41

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Today I learned that Verizon is now offering single line users a monthly rate of $60 for unlimited talk and text plus 2 GB of data. That is identical to what I'm getting now from AT&T but I'm paying $5 more a month. I'll reserve final judgment until the keynote but now the price of the phone isn't an issue.
Yeah, but then you are stuck using Verizon!
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