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Tig Bitties

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Also, you're making it sound like the battery of the Edge lasts like twice or three times as long as the battery of the G5. It's 28% bigger, which isn't that much bigger, and probably consumes more power because of the bigger screen. It will probably end up with marginally better battery life, not nearly enough to justify the quickness of recovery.

Have you seen the test results ? The G5 is said to get a god awful horrible 3h to 3.5h Screen On time. Compared to real users experience with the S7 Edge, people reporting 6h to 6.5h Screen On time.

The G5 getting 3.5h is useless for a smartphone, for me that'd be dead by lunchtime on a workday. That kind of crappy battery battery life is like Android phones from 2011.

When it's summertime, and I'm wearing shorts and a T-shirt, and not driving, and not using some European handbag. I don't want to have a spare charger, a long battery, and a cradle in my shirts, that's just ridiculous. I just want the phone in my shorts and nothing else. I'm already carrying my third leg.
 
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gotluck

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Have you seen the test results ? The G5 is said to get a god awful horrible 3h to 3.5h Screen On time. Compared to real users experience with the S7 Edge, people reporting 6h to 6.5h Screen On time.

The G5 getting 3.5h is useless for a smartphone, for me that'd be dead by lunchtime on a workday. That kind of crappy battery battery life is like Android phones from 2011.

Yea that's kind of a separate problem though :) if the phone was more efficient the battery size + removable could have been more appealing. Like you say, the difference between the phones is definitely not isolated to battery size

3.5 is pretty wild when I get ~4-4.5 on a gs4
 

akuma13

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There is conflicting reports on battery life. From what I've read people are getting anywhere from 3-6.5 hours of SOT. I think metal case-gate and LG's QC issues has mired any success this phone could have. From the reviews I've watched and read, it's a competent flagship phone.
 

spriter

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OK, let's break this down for you:

You still haven't answered the question. How is it a problem?

I did: The battery won't last a day.

Replacing the battery gets you back to 100% in under a minute.

I don't want to buy or carry another battery.

You say that you can get a lot out of a bigger battery, but it's going to go dead eventually, and when it does, recovering the power is a long process. About 100 times as long as swapping the battery out.

I'm asleep when it charges.

Also, you're making it sound like the battery of the Edge lasts like twice or three times as long as the battery of the G5. It's 28% bigger, which isn't that much bigger, and probably consumes more power because of the bigger screen. It will probably end up with marginally better battery life, not nearly enough to justify the quickness of recovery.

The S7E does get 6 hours. Sometimes 5, sometimes closer to 7. The battery might only be 28% bigger but that suggests Samsung are making better use of it.

And if swapping batteries is not something that you want to do, the G5 has Quick Charge 3.0. Meaning that it will charge twice as fast as the S7 anyway.

See above. I don't want to charge my phone at all during the day. Or carry a battery because it needs swapping out. Plenty of alternatives that cater for this.
 
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nj-morris

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So you carry a phone, spare battery and a charger with you wherever you go? Seems like a lot of extra baggage, instead of having a phone that can last a day on a single charge???

Not necessarily. If you carried a spare battery, that would be an extra cycle on it's own, and then when the battery runs out you can just keep it until you go home and charge it. And if you're away for longer, then you could just bring the charging case that they provide you with, which carries quite a bit of extra charge, meaning it doesn't need to be plugged in to charge the external battery.

Have you seen the test results ? The G5 is said to get a god awful horrible 3h to 3.5h Screen On time. Compared to real users experience with the S7 Edge, people reporting 6h to 6.5h Screen On time.

The G5 getting 3.5h is useless for a smartphone, for me that'd be dead by lunchtime on a workday. That kind of crappy battery battery life is like Android phones from 2011.

When it's summertime, and I'm wearing shorts and a T-shirt, and not driving, and not using some European handbag. I don't want to have a spare charger, a long battery, and a cradle in my shirts, that's just ridiculous. I just want the phone in my shorts and nothing else. I'm already carrying my third leg.

I've heard differently. I've heard that it'll get a bit over 4h SOT. With two batteries, that's 8h. One extra battery isn't that much extra luggage at all.
 

nj-morris

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OK, let's break this down for you:



I did: The battery won't last a day.



I don't want to buy or carry another battery.



I'm asleep when it charges.



The S7E does get 6 hours. Sometimes 5, sometimes closer to 7. The battery might only be 28% bigger but that suggests Samsung are making better use of it.



See above. I don't want to charge my phone at all during the day. Or carry a battery because it needs swapping out. Plenty of alternatives that cater for this.

I see where you're coming from, but I guess that it's ultimately subjective. In most use cases, a spare battery, which by the way you don't have to buy separately since it's included in the box, along with the charging case for external batteries, would be more beneficial to the user. The trick, there's potentially almost always a battery with 100% charge available. If you are going out of the house, put the full battery in your phone and put the other one in the charger, or if you're going out for longer than the battery will last, bring along the spare battery. That way you can only bring the battery when necessary. And it's not that much extra luggage, as I said in my above post. No charging in the daytime, or at all, and no dead phones.
 

spriter

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Mind the gap....

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Couldn't really miss that with the yellow background.
 

Savor

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Like I have said before, LG is one of the most innovative companies out there but doesn't get as much recognition like its more popular South Korean rival. I started liking LG not since the Chocolate days but when I saw the ad to their LG Viewty in 2007. Music was awesome in it. Then the Optimus G, Nexus 4 & 5, and G2 that all followed. I also prefer LG TV's than the oversaturated, overpriced Samsung ones.

LG smartphones generally are good in all areas like camera and display. Along with Nokia (Microsoft), LG remain the last remaining holdouts for removable batteries. To me, the battery is like the heart of a smartphone. I like having the peace of mind of giving an old phone a new lease on life. Not the service centers. I also don't want to be tracked like with nonremovable. Easier to steal my device but I still prefer the flexibility of swappable batteries. I really do love LG's Knock Code. Not as safe as a password but 86K combinations is fine with no traces like on patterns. And faster to unlock. Imagine putting a 17-letter password? Knock Code is so much cooler and easier.

But I will pass on the G5 for refinement reasons. Waiting for V2 in the G6 of this module design with better refinements like what the S7 edge did to the S6 edge. I just find it odd with the 2800 mAh battery and how LG jips their flagships since the G3 during the dawn of the QHD era. But LG packs 2500+ mAh for midrange to lower devices only needing to power "5 HD. Thank goodness it is still removable and we can react accordingly to how much of a bigger battery we can put in it.

Favorite Smartphone Brands

1. LG (South Korea)
2. Nokia (Finland)
3. Xiaomi (China)
4. Huawei (China)
5. Sony (Japan)
6. Samsung (South Korea)
7. Apple (USA)
8. Motorola (USA)
9. HTC (Taiwan)
10. ASUS (Taiwan)
11. OPPO (China)
12. Meizu (China)
13. ZTE (China)
14. Gionee (China)
15. MyPhone (Philippines)
16. Acer (Taiwan)
17. Lenovo (China)
18. O+ (USA)
19. BlackBerry (Canada)
20. Alcatel (China)

Samsung and Apple are moving up. Taiwanese HTC and ASUS are moving down from my personal experiences. LG and Xiaomi might have only 5-6% market share right now but I love them underdogs. Beware of Huawei, #3 in sales. It might NOT be a total pipe dream if they catch both Apple and Samsung in market share by the start of the next decade with the declining sales of iPhones and general Samsung phones altogether. I am loving the rendered rear of the Huawei P9 with the Leica logo on it. The rear fingerprint scanner since the Mate7 makes alot more sense than on the bottom middle front.
 
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Klyster

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Dec 7, 2013
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I unlock my phone when it's lying on tables and beds and stuff.
A fingerprint scanner on the rear would piss me off no end. I can imagine the smudges on the camera lens would make those super quick impromptu photos a bit of a mess too. But that's just my opinion and I'm sure it works nicely for others.

I did like my KU990, good for photos but horrible resistive touchscreen and dismal battery life.
As a camera it was pretty cool though.. then I got an LG Arena, such a beautiful stainless phone with a wicked for the time screen but the most terrible user interface..so I got the Xperia mini (cool wee phone really).
That was my first android until I got the Galaxy S, never considered an LG phone after that. Almost got another Xperia a few times..but omled had me.

Personally, I think LG should try to improve the complete flagship package and ditch the whacky designs.
Keep making modular if they want but keep it niche until they nail it.
Gambling on your flagship is daft IMO, the G5 should have been like the Flex, a device to test the water rather than a phone to pitch at the majority.
I know some people like buttons on the back but the majority don't, you have to please the majority to sell and make profits.
LG haven't done so well on this front lately.

Then again, they might sell millions of G5's rapidly, beating expectations, and I'd happily eat my hat if they do.. :)
 
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akuma13

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I think the camera(s) on the LG G5 is superb. The only reason the Galaxy S7's main camera trumps others is it's large sensor for low light shots.

 

Surf Donkey

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I think people should at least try a phone with a FP scanner on the back. I would much prefer that real estate go to front facing speakers or less bezel. I have never once had an issue. Just pair Smart Lock with a bluetooth device, or at hour house/work as a "safe place", it rarely ever even prompts you. So it is not like you have to pick up your phone to unlock the device.
 

iFoure

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Jul 1, 2010
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Like I have said before, LG is one of the most innovative companies out there but doesn't get as much recognition like its more popular South Korean rival. I started liking LG not since the Chocolate days but when I saw the ad to their LG Viewty in 2007. Music was awesome in it. Then the Optimus G, Nexus 4 & 5, and G2 that all followed. I also prefer LG TV's than the oversaturated, overpriced Samsung ones.

LG smartphones generally are good in all areas like camera and display. Along with Nokia (Microsoft), LG remain the last remaining holdouts for removable batteries. To me, the battery is like the heart of a smartphone. I like having the peace of mind of giving an old phone a new lease on life. Not the service centers. I also don't want to be tracked like with nonremovable. Easier to steal my device but I still prefer the flexibility of swappable batteries. I really do love LG's Knock Code. Not as safe as a password but 86K combinations is fine with no traces like on patterns. And faster to unlock. Imagine putting a 17-letter password? Knock Code is so much cooler and easier.

But I will pass on the G5 for refinement reasons. Waiting for V2 in the G6 of this module design with better refinements like what the S7 edge did to the S6 edge. I just find it odd with the 2800 mAh battery and how LG jips their flagships since the G3 during the dawn of the QHD era. But LG packs 2500+ mAh for midrange to lower devices only needing to power "5 HD. Thank goodness it is still removable and we can react accordingly to how much of a bigger battery we can put in it.

Favorite Smartphone Brands

1. LG (South Korea)
2. Nokia (Finland)
3. Xiaomi (China)
4. Huawei (China)
5. Sony (Japan)
6. Samsung (South Korea)
7. Apple (USA)
8. Motorola (USA)
9. HTC (Taiwan)
10. ASUS (Taiwan)
11. OPPO (China)
12. Meizu (China)
13. ZTE (China)
14. Gionee (China)
15. MyPhone (Philippines)
16. Acer (Taiwan)
17. Lenovo (China)
18. O+ (USA)
19. BlackBerry (Canada)
20. Alcatel (China)

Samsung and Apple are moving up. Taiwanese HTC and ASUS are moving down from my personal experiences. LG and Xiaomi might have only 5-6% market share right now but I love them underdogs. Beware of Huawei, #3 in sales. It might NOT be a total pipe dream if they catch both Apple and Samsung in market share by the start of the next decade with the declining sales of iPhones and general Samsung phones altogether. I am loving the rendered rear of the Huawei P9 with the Leica logo on it. The rear fingerprint scanner since the Mate7 makes alot more sense than on the bottom middle front.

As a Finn, it warms my heart that you rank Nokia so high on your list :)

Before I had my current G3, I didn't give LG a second tough. I was a loyal Nokia user, like 99% of the nation at that time. But then September 2013 happened (oh my bleeding heart, still hurts :() and all of a sudden I was "forced" to find a new mobile phone manufacturer that would win me as their customer. In picture came Android and with that, LG. And now, after 8 months of owning LG G3, I must say that I'm really happy with my phone and I do like LG as a manufacturer. LG's recent innovations remind me of Nokia and their odd, crazy, but mostly interesting phone designs :p Nokia, like LG right now with the G5 backlash, was frowned upon and called names etc. People didn't always take Nokia seriously but hey, that didn't stop the crazy Finns from going forward with their products :cool:

I give LG thumbs up for creating the G5. Why do the same designs that everybody else are doing? Yes, that is safe but boring. Be yourself. Like the G5's motto goes: Life's Good when you Play More (with modules) :p
 
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Sensamic

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Mind the gap....

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Couldn't really miss that with the yellow background.

Wow. That's terrible. I'm sure that could have been avoided by LG with better design or manufacturing. I guess I'll have to forget about this phone.
 

akuma13

macrumors 6502a
Jan 10, 2006
934
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Just bought
Wow. That's terrible. I'm sure that could have been avoided by LG with better design or manufacturing. I guess I'll have to forget about this phone.

Just bought mine from T-Mobile. It's not as noticeable as that. You really have to look at close to notice it.

-Edit-

Just had my first full charge rundown with the phone. Around 4 hours 50 minutes of SOT doing mostly browsing, music streaming, pictures. All on LTE. No defects/hardware issues apart from some light backlight bleeding on the left side of my screen. I LOVE THE PHONE! The vitoral for this phone is like nothing I've seen before. It's a shame that LG shot themselves in the foot with QC issues.

 
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0000757

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Dec 16, 2011
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Have you seen the test results ? The G5 is said to get a god awful horrible 3h to 3.5h Screen On time. Compared to real users experience with the S7 Edge, people reporting 6h to 6.5h Screen On time.

The G5 getting 3.5h is useless for a smartphone, for me that'd be dead by lunchtime on a workday. That kind of crappy battery battery life is like Android phones from 2011.

I'm getting about 5-6h SOT.
 

MRU

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Aug 23, 2005
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I honestly think think if they had put out two devices with one bring a straight follow up to the G4 and added this G5 as a different spin off product, LG would have had a better response reception wise.

By making it there G5 brand and not a new series, it's so polarising and brings far greater scrutiny to the product - whereas if it was a separate product series accompanying the G5, but would be way more forgiving ...
 

spriter

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May 13, 2004
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Seems hit and miss across reviews which is a bit odd. I think the Verge review hit the key issue for me which is the added value of the Friends. I'm just not seeing that much benefit for the outlay and risk if it's canned for the G6 etc.
 

0000757

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Dec 16, 2011
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Seems hit and miss across reviews which is a bit odd. I think the Verge review hit the key issue for me which is the added value of the Friends. I'm just not seeing that much benefit for the outlay and risk if it's canned for the G6 etc.

I agree.

Honestly though, I didn't buy the LG G5 because of the friends, or even a removable battery. I bought it because it's the closest I'm going to get to stock Android on T-Mobile. It's actually very very nice. I really like LG's UI. Everything they've added is useful and nothing really feels like a cheap gimmick, unlike my Note 5 which, while nice, was so far from stock android and felt very gimmicky.
 
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