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not a big issue but has anyone had any issues with the paint letting loose on the metal parts? I got mine in March 2019 so it's only 3 months old) and the paint on the stand is already coming off.. Only moved it a couple times.. Taking it to the Apple store for such a minor problem is a bit pedantic so I'm thinking about doing a paint touch up myself, but I'm not quite sure what the color code would be.. does anyone here know? :rolleyes:
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PSA: a new version has just been released!

- Model#:
"27MD5KL".

- Extra feature (and it is just ONE; a minor one):
DisplayPort support over (non-Thunderbolt 3) USB-C. Meaning a year after the new iPad Pro's came out with support for 5K, this is literally the only 5K display that they can use to do so.

Hence the extra inclusion of a 1.5m USB-C cable. And that's it folks.

£1180:
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/HMUB2B/A/lg-ultrafine-5k-display

$1300:
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HMUB2LL/A/lg-ultrafine-5k-display

€1400:
de: https://www.apple.com/de/shop/product/HMUB2ZM/A/lg-ultrafine-5k-display
fr: https://www.apple.com/fr/shop/product/HMUB2ZM/A/moniteur-5k-ultrafine-de-lg
es: https://www.apple.com/es/shop/product/HMUB2SM/A/monitor-ultrafine-5k-de-lg

One can estimate they'll likely drop a note about such functionality when the second gen of these new design iPad Pro's get released in Sep/Oct, no doubt.
Otherwise, no change to the ones we've already got, really. ;-)
 
PSA: a new version has just been released!

- Model#:
"27MD5KL".

- Extra feature (and it is just ONE; a minor one):
DisplayPort support over (non-Thunderbolt 3) USB-C. Meaning a year after the new iPad Pro's came out with support for 5K, this is literally the only 5K display that they can use to do so.

Hence the extra inclusion of a 1.5m USB-C cable. And that's it folks.
It has another new feature: it can deliver and charge up to 94 watts over USB-C or Thunderbolt 3, up from previous 85 watts. Since 15-inch MacBook Pro includes 87 watts power adapter, it probably won't matter much in practice.
 
It has another new feature: it can deliver and charge up to 94 watts over USB-C or Thunderbolt 3, up from previous 85 watts. Since 15-inch MacBook Pro includes 87 watts power adapter, it probably won't matter much in practice.
Presume this will be for the forthcoming “16-inch MacBook Pro” later this year - the XDR display lists 96W charging, so seems to make sense.
 
PSA: a new version has just been released!

- Model#:
"27MD5KL".

- Extra feature (and it is just ONE; a minor one):
DisplayPort support over (non-Thunderbolt 3) USB-C. Meaning a year after the new iPad Pro's came out with support for 5K, this is literally the only 5K display that they can use to do so.

Hence the extra inclusion of a 1.5m USB-C cable. And that's it folks.

£1180:
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/HMUB2B/A/lg-ultrafine-5k-display

$1300:
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HMUB2LL/A/lg-ultrafine-5k-display

€1400:
de: https://www.apple.com/de/shop/product/HMUB2ZM/A/lg-ultrafine-5k-display
fr: https://www.apple.com/fr/shop/product/HMUB2ZM/A/moniteur-5k-ultrafine-de-lg
es: https://www.apple.com/es/shop/product/HMUB2SM/A/monitor-ultrafine-5k-de-lg

One can estimate they'll likely drop a note about such functionality when the second gen of these new design iPad Pro's get released in Sep/Oct, no doubt.
Otherwise, no change to the ones we've already got, really. ;-)

These are great news for those who wanted an external high dpi display for the iPad Pro.

Not sure if I'm picking up the display yet

It has another new feature: it can deliver and charge up to 94 watts over USB-C or Thunderbolt 3, up from previous 85 watts. Since 15-inch MacBook Pro includes 87 watts power adapter, it probably won't matter much in practice.

Smells like they are either preparing for the 16" or for next year models.. just saying
 
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Assuming the webcam/iSight/Facetime camera is the same as the previous model, what is the quality like? Does it compare favorably to a high quality phone front-facing camera or even a dedicated third party webcam like a Logitech?

The MBP has a pretty crummy web camera so this would be a potential factor in my decision between the 24" and 27" displays.
 
PSA: a new version has just been released!

- Model#:
"27MD5KL".

- Extra feature (and it is just ONE; a minor one):
DisplayPort support over (non-Thunderbolt 3) USB-C. Meaning a year after the new iPad Pro's came out with support for 5K, this is literally the only 5K display that they can use to do so.

Hence the extra inclusion of a 1.5m USB-C cable. And that's it folks.

£1180:
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/HMUB2B/A/lg-ultrafine-5k-display

$1300:
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HMUB2LL/A/lg-ultrafine-5k-display

€1400:
de: https://www.apple.com/de/shop/product/HMUB2ZM/A/lg-ultrafine-5k-display
fr: https://www.apple.com/fr/shop/product/HMUB2ZM/A/moniteur-5k-ultrafine-de-lg
es: https://www.apple.com/es/shop/product/HMUB2SM/A/monitor-ultrafine-5k-de-lg

One can estimate they'll likely drop a note about such functionality when the second gen of these new design iPad Pro's get released in Sep/Oct, no doubt.
Otherwise, no change to the ones we've already got, really. ;-)

That's interesting! Too bad I'm out of my return period as I do have an 11 inch iPad Pro.
 
More news... only works at 4K resolution with the 2018 iPad Pro.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/lgs-new-ultrafine-5k-display-limited-to-4k-resolution-when-used-with-2018-ipad-pro.2191964

Which kind of contradicts their iPad keynote last year saying "you can even connect it to a 5K display", with no major caveat mentioning it'd only be at 4K res, though. Very bait'n'switch-esque or smoke & mirrors, if you ask me. All while taking nearly the whole year to actually release something, via LG.

So not that amazing after all, as there are other 4K USB-C displays on the market already. So really, all this offers is a SINGLE display for the clearer 5K macOS and bit less clear 4K iOS/iPadOS functionality.

Have to wait until this year's iPad's to see if anything improves with USB-C port functionality on them (perhaps DisplayPort 1.4 alt.mode at 5K/60Hz? Or something else).
 
Good to hear. Hopefully, this encourages them to put some more focus on developing firmware updates.
 
One other notable feature is that this is the panel from the 2017 iMac/iMac Pro. The first generation display used the panel from the 2015 iMac (which if you look at the iMac forum, also had image retention problems). 2 years later and I don't think I've seen any reports of Image Retention on the 2017 iMacs, so this display could have that issue fixed as well.

EDIT: it seems like the 2016 UltraFine had the panel first before the 2017 27 inch iMac, so there goes my theory that this issue was fixed with a different panel. Hopefully this one still has been fixed.
 
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One other notable feature is that this is the panel from the 2017 iMac/iMac Pro. The first generation display used the panel from the 2015 iMac (which if you look at the iMac forum, also had image retention problems). 2 years later and I don't think I've seen any reports of Image Retention on the 2017 iMacs, so this display could have that issue fixed as well.

EDIT: it seems like the 2016 UltraFine had the panel first before the 2017 27 inch iMac, so there goes my theory that this issue was fixed with a different panel. Hopefully this one still has been fixed.

My first UltraFine 5K exhibit image retention issues, and was immediately swap out with another one at Apple store. The second one been almost 2 years, no retention issues.

Most likely UltraFine were the first one to use the new panel than the 2017 iMac.
 
My first UltraFine 5K exhibit image retention issues, and was immediately swap out with another one at Apple store. The second one been almost 2 years, no retention issues.

Most likely UltraFine were the first one to use the new panel than the 2017 iMac.

How long did it take for the Image Retention show up on the first display you bought?
 
They are not very good with quality control...

This has always been the case, but they make the largest number of lcd panels of any manufacturer I can think of. For the most part, whatever display you buy these days probably uses an LG panel. It has been that way for more than a decade at this point. You are basically stuck with them in some sense.
 
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This has always been the case, but they make the largest number of lcd panels of any manufacturer I can think of. For the most part, whatever display you buy these days probably uses an LG panel. It has been that way for more than a decade at this point. You are basically stuck with them in some sense.

UltraFine 5K is the only one with the retina PPI that I can find. Also have another monitor BenQ PD2720U with far superior quality and near perfect uniformity out of box with no calibration required. The only downside is 4K 27", which isn't optimal. BenQ AFAIK uses AU Optronic panel, which is far superior than LG's crap.
 
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UltraFine 5K is the only one with the retina PPI that I can find. Also have another monitor BenQ PD2720U with far superior quality and near perfect uniformity out of box with no calibration required. The only downside is 4K 27", which isn't optimal. BenQ AFAIK uses AU Optronic panel, which is far superior than LG's crap.

I had not heard of that one, but I'm glad to be wrong this time. It's nice to see another brand get in there. With a few exceptions, anything larger than phone size seemed to be using LG for the longest time, in spite of the existence of a couple other manufacturers in that space.

By retina, do you mean it's able to perfectly scale the UI compared to the older 27" displays? I think that's the main reason Apple tended to prefer 5K here. They always went with resolutions that replaced 1 pixel with 4 when going from old to new. If you're just worried about pixels per inch, have you viewed one up close? I'm skeptical that it would look much different outside of cases where UI elements aren't drawn optimally well.

I personally tend to regard calibration as nonsense on most models, because most models are not able to rely on any kind of internal adjustment. They just remap the output signals going to the monitor in a rather imprecise way by measuring what is emitted by the display.
 
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One other notable feature is that this is the panel from the 2017 iMac/iMac Pro. The first generation display used the panel from the 2015 iMac (which if you look at the iMac forum, also had image retention problems). 2 years later and I don't think I've seen any reports of Image Retention on the 2017 iMacs, so this display could have that issue fixed as well.

EDIT: it seems like the 2016 UltraFine had the panel first before the 2017 27 inch iMac, so there goes my theory that this issue was fixed with a different panel. Hopefully this one still has been fixed.


I really hope some people can chime in about the image retention problems being fixed with this ‘new’ display. only real issue i have with my ultrafine. it just makes it look ultramessy
 
I had not heard of that one, but I'm glad to be wrong this time. It's nice to see another brand get in there. With a few exceptions, anything larger than phone size seemed to be using LG for the longest time, in spite of the existence of a couple other manufacturers in that space.

By retina, do you mean it's able to perfectly scale the UI compared to the older 27" displays? I think that's the main reason Apple tended to prefer 5K here. They always went with resolutions that replaced 1 pixel with 4 when going from old to new. If you're just worried about pixels per inch, have you viewed one up close? I'm skeptical that it would look much different outside of cases where UI elements aren't drawn optimally well.

I personally tend to regard calibration as nonsense on most models, because most models are not able to rely on any kind of internal adjustment. They just remap the output signals going to the monitor in a rather imprecise way by measuring what is emitted by the display.

You can tell the difference between the PPI level of 217 and 163. It's pretty clear to my eye.
Both are clear, but 217 ppi is far superior to look at IMO. It is also smoother for some reason in MacOS.
 
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I really hope some people can chime in about the image retention problems being fixed with this ‘new’ display. only real issue i have with my ultrafine. it just makes it look ultramessy

I would be skeptical too but I think it's actually true!

I bought my UF5K in December 2018 to go with my Mac Mini, and after a few days of usage I already noticed some minor image retention. I use dark mode all the time and typically the static items on the menu bar would burn in after 10 minutes of usage. At first Apple wasn't willing do something about it (they sent me to LG and LG sent me to some autharized Panel repairshop). Thank god I didn't go for that. I would've been without a monitor for weeks and probably wouldn't be fixed) After another long back and forth with Apple, in March 2019 they finally decided to exchange mine for a new one.
Low and behold, I've been using this monitor heavily, for more than 8 hours each day, and it still doesn't have any trace of image retention! *knocks on wood*
So yes.. I think I can actually attest to the rumors of LG having ''fixed'' this issue on newer displays.

The warranty process was awful though.
 
Is this monitor usable with Razer eGPU solution and latest Mac OS?

I see there are a lot of threads where people say that this monitor works only with Blackmagic eGPU, but all threads are pretty old.
 
Is this monitor usable with Razer eGPU solution and latest Mac OS?

I see there are a lot of threads where people say that this monitor works only with Blackmagic eGPU, but all threads are pretty old.
No for the original monitor. It requires a Thunderbolt 3 connection which the Razer doesn't have.

The new version just released supports USB-C alt mode so if you have a graphics card with USB-C it will physically connect. Problem is last looked only RTX 2080 or similar have one. Apple only has AMD drivers so still out of luck.
 
Is this monitor usable with Razer eGPU solution and latest Mac OS?

I see there are a lot of threads where people say that this monitor works only with Blackmagic eGPU, but all threads are pretty old.
Based on what I've read, it wasn't the Blackmagic eGPU, but the Blackmagic Pro. The Pro adds an additional Thunderbolt controller, so you have an additional Thunderbolt port.

There are dual-slot Thunderbolt enclosures (like the Akitio Node Duo) that would allow you to install a graphics card into one slot and a Thunderbolt controller into the other. It seems like you can drive a monitor that way. If it works well, that would represent a potentially cheaper option than the Blackmagic Pro - and one that you could continue to upgrade the graphics card with.
 
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Joined the owners' club today with the new model - the panel is amazing, a big upgrade on my Thunderbolt Display. One cable for charging and connecting the display is also a small but useful change.

It is a bit more wobbly, but I like the design much more than I thought I would from photos.

Only issue was that the TB3 cable which came with it was faulty - Apple wanted to replace the whole monitor which is a hassle I could really rather do without. Ended up just buying a Belkin cable and it's all fine, though will hopefully be able to get a replacement from LG as they aren't cheap!
 
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