Other Lightning port

[Richard8655]

From what I've read, the EU is trying to be pro consumer by reducing the number of incompatible adapters, cables, ports, and interfaces. And not have to spend a lot more money for the variety of proprietary device connections out there. It was also intended to reduce electronic waste in having to buy and keep all these incompatible connectors. Apple objected but lost.

 

[ignatius345]

It's more depressing to me to think there are people that actually believe that replacing a keyboard has some direct impact on what the sun is doing. It should depress everyone frankly.

No, the sun does what the sun does. The atmosphere, however... that's a different story.

 

[Fat_Guy]

Lightning is superior to USB-C in every way except data transfer. I don’t count charging as that should be magsafe as we go into a port-less future.


Cables are not the future.

 

[mpavilion]

How do you “portless” folks transfer all the photos from your phone to your computer periodically? Every six months or so, I plug in the phone, open the Photos app on the Mac, click “transfer all (and delete from phone)”… is there some AirDrop way I could be doing this(?)

 

[Abazigal]

How do you “portless” folks transfer all the photos from your phone to your computer periodically? Every six months or so, I plug in the phone, open the Photos app on the Mac, click “transfer all (and delete from phone)”… is there some AirDrop way I could be doing this(?)

I guess I just don’t. iCloud syncs my photos automatically and I really haven’t had to plug in anything to my phone in ages.

I guess I wouldn’t mind some sort of continuity interface coming to the iPhone as well, if I ever needed to drag and drop files to and from my phone.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I plug my iPhone into a computer weekly to drag photos and videos off from testing I’ve fine at work. It’s an absolute nightmare transferring that much data via a cloud and accessing it. I get the feeling this process will get a lot more difficult once the ridiculous concept of a port-less iPhone becomes a reality. Apple aren’t known for making things easy as they introduce compromises to make devices thinner or more aesthetically pleasing to look at.

 

[ApplesAreSweet&Sour]

But my SSD is not a iphone.

I think what you and many others in here fail to grasp is how many public and private institutions, offices and businesses in Europe increasingly are moving towards “digitalization” aka the process of moving all documents and work into the digital.

Our governments alone are big and costly, with tons of legal work. But the latter part is something we are eagerly working towards making more feasible and cost efficient.

In this process, the need for and reliance on smartphones, tablets, laptops and other mobile devices and non mobile devices is rapidly increasing.

These products should preferably be cross-compatible in key areas: Having to buy and store extra cables and chargers for devices with (arbitrarily) proprietary connectors is anything but ideal and is not only a huge negative impact on the bottom line, it’s also a day to day annoyance leading to lost productivity and technical difficulties that could easily be avoided if the I/O of smartphones, tablets and laptops were identical across brands.

There is also no “forcing” of Apple going on to ditch Lightning. Apple can create unique E.U. iPhones or flat out stop selling them in Europe once the legislation takes effect -But losing all E.U. iPhone sales from 2024 and beyond is making Apple change its business strategy for iPhones to one that suits the needs of E.U. citizens, businesses and public institutions better.

Small loss for Apple’s shareholders, big win for consumers, governments and businesses in the E.U.!

 

[jwolf6589]

I think what you and many others in here fail to grasp is how many public and private institutions, offices and businesses in Europe increasingly are moving towards “digitalization” aka the process of moving all documents and work into the digital.

Our governments alone are big and costly, with tons of legal work. But the latter part is something we are eagerly working towards making more feasible and cost efficient.

In this process, the need for and reliance on smartphones, tablets, laptops and other mobile devices and non mobile devices is rapidly increasing.

These products should preferably be cross-compatible in key areas: Having to buy and store extra cables and chargers for devices with (arbitrarily) proprietary connectors is anything but ideal and is not only a huge negative impact on the bottom line, it’s also a day to day annoyance leading to lost productivity and technical difficulties that could easily be avoided if the I/O of smartphones, tablets and laptops were identical across brands.

There is also no “forcing” of Apple going on to ditch Lightning. Apple can create unique E.U. iPhones or flat out stop selling them in Europe once the legislation takes effect -But losing all E.U. iPhone sales from 2024 and beyond is making Apple change its business strategy for iPhones to one that suits the needs of E.U. citizens, businesses and public institutions better.

Small loss for Apple’s shareholders, big win for consumers, governments and businesses in the E.U.!

I dont disagree however moving everything to digital is very costly. You know how many books I have that have no apple books or ebooks file? Do you know I have blue ray's that are not available digitally?

It would be nice to have everything digital but then again it's also nice to have hard copy backups of everything just encased digital fails and my computer breaks, or is hacked.

 

[Miha_v]

I use both lightning port and USB-C daily. I understand the tendency toward unifying ports, but honestly, I prefer the simplicity of the lightning port design: nothing hollow in the structure of it (meaning: less chance of something breaking).

With USB-C, you have to be more careful when connecting it. Not a big issue of course, but connecting lighting is just a tad snappier and simpler. On USB-C you have to be a bit more aware at which angle you connect it (lightning port with bevels just slides in, even when not perfectly aligned).

 

[Lifeisabeach]

What’s wrong with the lighting port and why is apple and everyone else so anxious to get rid of it? My iPhone 13, Apple TV remote, AirPods, Magic Mouse, all use lightning and I am not upgrading the moment they all feature USB-C ports.

It's "fine" for what it does, but with USB-C the de-facto standard for charging peripheral devices, it just makes sense to go all in as devices are upgraded/replaced. No, I wouldn't replace anything JUST because it has USB-C, but for the past 3 years now, when I shop for a device, I've been deliberately seeking out USB-C options and even holding out until a USB-C version is available in what I like. In the case of the iPhone, I've been rocking a Xr for nearly 5 years now. I've deliberately held off upgrading as I've been anticipating the change, but otherwise have been happy with the Xr and have been content to have stuck with it this long. Once this is gone, that will leave just my PowerBeats Pro charging case and an ATV remote that charge over Lightning. I'm not going to rush to replace either, but the writing is on the wall here... Lightning is almost completely phased out, leaving just the one connector to rule them all when it happens.

 

[Sami13496]

Enlighten us

Political discussion is not allowed here. Sorry.

 

[saber32au]

It’s an absolute nightmare transferring that much data via a cloud and accessing it.

Agree!

A few weeks ago I transferred about 30GB of photos and videos off my work iphone (it was around 4500 files in total).

Took about 30mins or so using a lightning cable to transfer all files to my pc. Quick, painless and easy.

Using the cloud would have taken much much longer, and forget about airdrop. It only works on Apple devices, and I haven't found airdrop as a reliable method to transfer a large number of files. I've found 800-1000 files is about the limit; any more I either find batches of files are not transferred (no idea why), or the file transfer fails part way through.

Whilst it would have been nice to transfer data faster, I have no complaints using the lightning cable. Connect phone to laptop, start file transfer, charge phone and disconnect when done. Again it was quick, painless and easy.

Cable FTW!

 

[ignatius345]

How do you “portless” folks transfer all the photos from your phone to your computer periodically? Every six months or so, I plug in the phone, open the Photos app on the Mac, click “transfer all (and delete from phone)”… is there some AirDrop way I could be doing this(?)

iCloud. My photos library is always identical across my iPhone and both my Macs. I'm paying a fair bit for the privilege (lots of photos) but it's basically seamless.

I'm not advocating for a portless phone, by any means. When I want my phone charged fast, I reach for a cheap Anker 30W fast charger and plug it in. Hard to see the advantage of replacing an inexpensive and widely available cable for a MagSafe puck that costs a full forty dollars, takes up more space in my bag and gives me no advantage other than "it's magnetic." No wonder Apple is pushing this crap so hard!

 

[SilvioInfante]

No, the sun does what the sun does. The atmosphere, however... that's a different story.

I promise you, buying a keyboard will not affect either.

 

[klky]

Specs and standards aside, I actually prefer the physical design of the lightning connector. It just feels a lot more robust.

 

[kamikazeeMC]

How do you “portless” folks transfer all the photos from your phone to your computer periodically? Every six months or so, I plug in the phone, open the Photos app on the Mac, click “transfer all (and delete from phone)”… is there some AirDrop way I could be doing this(?)

Shared folder on my desktop, added in the Files app. Then in Photos select the images/videos and share to files. And the other way, putting stuff in that share then copying from my phone.

 

[Reverend Benny]

I use both lightning port and USB-C daily. I understand the tendency toward unifying ports, but honestly, I prefer the simplicity of the lightning port design: nothing hollow in the structure of it (meaning: less chance of something breaking).

With USB-C, you have to be more careful when connecting it. Not a big issue of course, but connecting lighting is just a tad snappier and simpler. On USB-C you have to be a bit more aware at which angle you connect it (lightning port with bevels just slides in, even when not perfectly aligned).

I agree, USB-C are more fragile and are quite messy when it comes to standards and cable types (what they can transfer and so on).

But I do like the idea of only having one connector type, this also means all non-apple manufacturers are forced to move to USB-C.

Its a shame Apple didn't share their lightning port and allowed other manufacturers to use their standard, that way Lightning could have been a standard not USB-C.
Both connectors have their pros and cons and its also down to who manufacturers the cable. Some lightning and USB-C cables are weak in design and fragile.

Thats why I hope Apple really pushes some sort of MFi program for USB-C so that customers that want quality know what to look for.

 

[MyPhone99]

What’s wrong with the lighting port and why is apple and everyone else so anxious to get rid of it? My iPhone 13, Apple TV remote, AirPods, Magic Mouse, all use lightning and I am not upgrading the moment they all feature USB-C ports.

Nothing wrong with Lighting port. Move towards USB-C may cause some problems in the first 1-2 years for the folks who have other devices with lighting ports. Like if you own an ipad/secondary(work) iphone with lighting ports etc But in the larger perspective its good to move towards a standard port. Thats why i may not upgrade to iphone 15 series until i plan to upgrade my ipad air 2 and iphone 12 (work phone)

 

[darngooddesign]

Will we need to buy a specifically rated USB C cable for those of us with wired only CarPlay? I know the cable causes a lot of issues with Android Auto and I don’t want to have to buy 10 different USB C cables to get the right one that works with CarPlay like I used to have to deal with on Android Auto.

I'm using a 3rd party Lightning cable in my Mazda so I see no reason why CarPlay wouldn't work with any USB-C cable; but, worst case scenario buy the Apple cable which supports CarPlay.

 

[darngooddesign]

...Unfortunately, bureaucrats decided to stifle future innovation for wired connectivity by mandating a 2014 connector technology, so if Apple wants to continue selling products where devices without USB-C are banned, they're forced to use USB-C for an interim period. At least until wireless capabilities become more viable for diagnostics and file transfers, and assuming bureaucrats don't attempt to squelch new technologies there as well.

First of all, only the USB-C port shape has been mandated. Secondly, USB-C has proven itself more than robust enough to give us fast charging and TB4 data speeds. The mandate also allows for adopting superior open-standard port technologies should they arise.

 

[janeauburn]

What’s wrong with the lighting port and why is apple and everyone else so anxious to get rid of it?

Nothing.

And because people have to have something to lust after. USB-C sucks.

 

[Andeddu]

Could Apple just design a newer and faster lightning port for those who want faster transfer speeds? I prefer the design as I have made the decision that USB-C is less desirable because it doesn’t provide a very satisfying “plugging in” experience. It doesn’t gratifyingly pop into the port because the port has a stupid ugly tongue. It just doesn’t feel or look very Apple.

I don’t like it. I’d rather keep the lighting port.

 

[darngooddesign]

Could Apple just design a newer and faster lightning port for those who want faster transfer speeds? I prefer the design as I have made the decision that USB-C is less desirable because it doesn’t provide a very satisfying “plugging in” experience. It doesn’t gratifyingly pop into the port because the port has a stupid ugly tongue. It just doesn’t feel or look very Apple.

I don’t like it. I’d rather keep the lighting port.

They a faster USB 3.0 Lightning port on the first and second 13” iPad Pros and the 10.5” iPad Pro, but they didn’t do anything else with it.

 

[bobthebuilderissus]

What’s wrong with the lighting port and why is apple and everyone else so anxious to get rid of it? My iPhone 13, Apple TV remote, AirPods, Magic Mouse, all use lightning and I am not upgrading the moment they all feature USB-C ports.

becuase now i can charge a iphone with my 120w LG Gram charger

and EU regulations basically told apple to leave or change ports. so apple had to change ports


also, iphones last about 5-6 years, just hold onto yours till you can switch to USB-C

 

[bobthebuilderissus]

Could Apple just design a newer and faster lightning port for those who want faster transfer speeds? I prefer the design as I have made the decision that USB-C is less desirable because it doesn’t provide a very satisfying “plugging in” experience. It doesn’t gratifyingly pop into the port because the port has a stupid ugly tongue. It just doesn’t feel or look very Apple.

I don’t like it. I’d rather keep the lighting port.

and i perfer my job to be less "uhm yeah so my iphone isnt charging." hopefully they redesigned the actual port so it doesn't mean i have to take everything but the battery just to change the charging ports.
that pop sound is your lighting ports teeth grinding together btw