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Yeah. I can understand wired charging because I was actively using it until this year when I switched to the iPhone 13.

I just have never seen anyone do a data transfer with their phone wired up to a computer when Airdrop exists. I think it was common practice back in the 2010’s but not anymore.
Wired transfer is almost non-existent today. The people who bring it up as a reason on this forum don't even use it. There are edge cases with regard to Windows and trying to transfer data to that mess, but that's hardly a priority or a reason to change anything.
 
Frankly not a lot wrong, but Apple is being forced by the European Union government to switch to USB-C for iPhones. Apparently many homes have both iPhones and Android phones and they get confused which to use. Apparently pretty dumb in that part of the world, or at least their government. This is the 2nd largest market outside the USA. But a switch to USB-C will just mean they will now need more dongles to support legacy products or spend thousands to upgrade their devices. Modern Macs have USB-C so it won’t be so bad. And USB-C holds hope for faster charging and faster data sync, but those features may be for iPhone 15 Pro models only.
Can I use my MacBook Pro charger to charge my iPad Mini 6 since both use USB-C?
 
There's nothing more anti-innovative then holding onto a connector type, totally proprietary, ridiculously expensive thats more than a decade old and has been replaced by something better, faster and more robust (USB-C) and makes the using of a single cable type between friends, family, your local café, your train station USB ports, outdoor quick chargers MUCH more simple. Not a single one of us would suggest that it would be a great idea if our plug sockets at home were 3 or 4 different styles. One single design is sometimes a GREAT idea. It's pure capitalist propaganda that bureaucrats stifle innovation - companies just don't like regulation even when it works in our favour. In many cases you could replace the word innovation with profits. Bureaucrats occasionally stifle company "profits" to prevent global harms. Don't forget that you vote for your bureaucrats, you can vote them out too (at least it's what we do in Europe).
I'm sure you actually believe that too.
 
Wired transfer is almost non-existent today. The people who bring it up as a reason on this forum don't even use it. There are edge cases with regard to Windows and trying to transfer data to that mess, but that's hardly a priority or a reason to change anything.
People who shoot Apple Raw and ProRes video disagree with you. Apple pushes the video aspects of the latest phones so they don’t consider it a useless edge case.
 
I'm not sure why Apple doesn't just accept USB-C and update every peripheral over the next year or two. It would be guaranteed revenue. Everyone would buy new AirPods, mice, keyboards, etc etc. Free $.
 
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But my SSD is not a iphone.

I would never have guessed that 🙄

However, with USB-C you can attach one (SSD) to the iPhone.
It might not be what YOU want to do with the iPhone, but why spoil the joy for everyone else?

By the way, you seem to have missed the clue from my previous post.
Lightening is slower than USB-C and it is not an industry standard.

Would you want lightening on your Mac instead of USB-C? (Let me guess your answer... "But my Mac is not an iPhone")
Ask yourself why do you want USB-C on the Mac and then ask yourself why those reasons should not be applicable to any device that you own.

Sometime I wish Apple could carry on doing devices with obsolete ports especially for those that are unwilling to move on with the times. Alas...
 
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Frankly not a lot wrong, but Apple is being forced by the European Union government to switch to USB-C for iPhones. Apparently many homes have both iPhones and Android phones and they get confused which to use. Apparently pretty dumb in that part of the world, or at least their government. This is the 2nd largest market outside the USA. But a switch to USB-C will just mean they will now need more dongles to support legacy products or spend thousands to upgrade their devices. Modern Macs have USB-C so it won’t be so bad. And USB-C holds hope for faster charging and faster data sync, but those features may be for iPhone 15 Pro models only.

There is no need to be offensive to an entire continent.
 
…But a switch to USB-C will just mean they will now need more dongles to support legacy products or spend thousands to upgrade their devices.
People can use the Lightning cables they already have with heir Legacy products; some people might get an adapter just so they can use a single cable type, most probably wont. While some people might “spend thousands” to upgrade their iPhone just to get USB-C, most people will just do it when they normally planned on upgrading.
 
What’s wrong with the lighting port and why is apple and everyone else so anxious to get rid of it?
If it had been as powerful as the alternatives, and Apple had shared it, the sure. But since you anyway need other connectors for displays and power, why not standardize?

Another argument I like is that the good Lightning cables are already USB-C on one end. Why not make them the same on both ends?

Lightning was a great alternative to USB-A, USB-B and the old iPhone connector. But I think it is time to move on.
 
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There’s nothing wrong, I agree with you.
Slower? I don’t use lightning for data for like 9 years.
Strange obsession with usb…

But things change and so usb-c is the new standard. Let’s move on 🤷‍♂️
For real. The ONLY time I use it for data in the last 8 or so years is the very occasional encrypted backup to Mac or PC when I got a new phone... and now I don't even do that because direct transfer accomplishes the same thing. The last time I did it was when I had to take my phone in for a screen repair and I wasn't sure if it would be repaired or replaced, so I did an encrypted backup to Mac.

Personally, I prefer the Lightning connector over USB-C, but more power and faster is better so I'm not upset either way.
 
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Frankly not a lot wrong, but Apple is being forced by the European Union government to switch to USB-C for iPhones. Apparently many homes have both iPhones and Android phones and they get confused which to use. Apparently pretty dumb in that part of the world, or at least their government. This is the 2nd largest market outside the USA. But a switch to USB-C will just mean they will now need more dongles to support legacy products or spend thousands to upgrade their devices. Modern Macs have USB-C so it won’t be so bad. And USB-C holds hope for faster charging and faster data sync, but those features may be for iPhone 15 Pro models only.

In Europe people don't tend to have thousands of dollars of Apple products. A switch to USB-C would make it more convenient for the average person.
 
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Nothing wrong with Lightning in particular, and I don't think Apple's too happy about being forced to get rid of it.

Lightning is slower than modern USB-C, and Apple may have been playing it out to keep their proprietary Lightning connectors while also working toward good enough wireless connections & adoption to go portless. Unfortunately, bureaucrats decided to stifle future innovation for wired connectivity by mandating a 2014 connector technology, so if Apple wants to continue selling products where devices without USB-C are banned, they're forced to use USB-C for an interim period. At least until wireless capabilities become more viable for diagnostics and file transfers, and assuming bureaucrats don't attempt to squelch new technologies there as well.
Somehow EU bureaucrats trying to reduce long term ewaste potential and unifying the port situation is “stifling the innovation”. Or people REALLY want to go back to 1980s when every fricking manufacturer uses their proprietary cable on their own stuff only.
But that’s a debate for another time.
When people say slower, do they mean for charging? Surely the vast, vast majority of people don’t use a cable for transferring data. We have this thing called the cloud, and apples version of it has been around even longer than lightning!
Vast, vast majority of US customers maybe.
 
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Will we need to buy a specifically rated USB C cable for those of us with wired only CarPlay? I know the cable causes a lot of issues with Android Auto and I don’t want to have to buy 10 different USB C cables to get the right one that works with CarPlay like I used to have to deal with on Android Auto.
 
I don't know the legislation. Does it specifically mandate USB-C or is more like a standardized connector and that just happens to be USB-C at the moment (could conceivably be something else if a standards group agrees)?
Don’t forget Apple designed USB-C. They had more engineers on the project than the others in the consortium. So it’s not really an Apple vs other standards thing. This switch was likely inevitable, but Apple is forced to do it sooner than they wanted due to the European Union
 
Or they get dirty because people don’t take care of them.
Some of us work in dirty fields and it’s unavoidable. Accusing everyone of not taking care of a cable is avoiding the real issue….why are the contacts exposed? It’s a poor design and blaming the consumer for “not holding it right” is an ignorant position. Apple made a poor design choice. Sorry to shatter everyone’s cookie cutter world. Apple can make poor choices like everyone else.
 
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Wired transfer is almost non-existent today. The people who bring it up as a reason on this forum don't even use it. There are edge cases with regard to Windows and trying to transfer data to that mess, but that's hardly a priority or a reason to change anything.
I don't have a use for wired data transfer, and I would bet a huge percentage of iPhone users don't either.

BUT!

Let's also remember that iPhones are billed as professional video devices at this point, and are capable of generating enormous video files. For those to be usable in any kind of production capacity, they have to be moved off the phone, and faster than wifi or Lightning will let you do it. That's where USB-C comes in.
 
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I'm not sure why Apple doesn't just accept USB-C and update every peripheral over the next year or two. It would be guaranteed revenue. Everyone would buy new AirPods, mice, keyboards, etc etc. Free $.
I guess there are people stupid and wasteful enough to replace their AirPods and keyboards for no other reason than because they charge with a Lightning cable -- but it's depressing to think about when the planet is literally on fire.
 
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