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aerok

macrumors 65816
Oct 29, 2011
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I have a shoot coming this Sunday, hopefuly we'll get the update by then :confused:
 

dwig

macrumors 6502a
Jan 4, 2015
908
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Key West FL
I have a shoot coming this Sunday, hopefuly we'll get the update by then :confused:

I would NEVER consider updating hardware or software when I had any important work pending.

I would only update when I had some time to test and evaluate the new version before having to use it for real work.
 

MCAsan

macrumors 601
Jul 9, 2012
4,587
442
Atlanta
....if they will do March?!?!


At least OnOne says Perfect Photo Suite 9.5 will be out in 2 weeks. Makes me wonder if thy want LR 6 out first.
 

aerok

macrumors 65816
Oct 29, 2011
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I would NEVER consider updating hardware or software when I had any important work pending.

I would only update when I had some time to test and evaluate the new version before having to use it for real work.

You're absolutely right but it's just a TF portrait shoot, no money involved and it would be perfect to test the new version.
 

skaeight

macrumors regular
Jan 7, 2009
212
3
Starting to lose interest if I'm honest. I mean, I'll probably just pay my £50 upgrade fee just for the sake of owning it and having the option, but I've been really enjoying VSCO Cam. It's proving to be such a versatile and powerful app, available on my iPhone and iPad. Just wish they had a RAW convertor desktop app, they could be a great competitor. I know they sell Lightroom 5 presets, but that's not the same as using their app - in my opinion.

I'm honestly starting to think about this again myself. It has nothing to do with the LR delay, but I like you do a lot of my quick edits in VSCO Cam (and I have a film pack, ironically in my opinion the $10 filter packs are better than the $100 film pack).

The other side of this is I just can't get the simplicity and amazing performance of Photos out of my head. It is way way way too simple, but in a way that could be a good thing (limiting options can sometimes help you create better things). Syncing my LR library to different computers isn't quite as seamless as I would like and is actually taking up a lot of room already (30 GB from 2 months of shooting + back catalog). The nearline storage of Photos is so appealing - I'd love to be able to edit photos on my laptop but it is such a pain right now.

So I don't know, we'll see what happens. I am already locked into LR for a year, but I'm going to keep a close eye on Photos and will likely use both for a while until I fall into a rhythm.

Seriously though if VSCO would create a plugin for Photos (when this is possible) or a whole Mac app, that might be it for me. I'm just feeling like LR may be too heavy for my needs at the moment.


BTW, you have some amazing photos on your Flickr page, great work.
 

AppleHater

macrumors 6502a
Jun 9, 2010
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If I buy Lightroom 5 now and Lightroom 6 comes out in a couple weeks, would I be screwed or get a free upgrade?
 

skaeight

macrumors regular
Jan 7, 2009
212
3
If I buy Lightroom 5 now and Lightroom 6 comes out in a couple weeks, would I be screwed or get a free upgrade?

You may be able to upgrade, but there aren't any guarantees. I'd recommend either waiting or if you need it now and are ok with a monthly fee, get the CC Photography suite.
 

576316

macrumors 601
May 19, 2011
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I'm honestly starting to think about this again myself. It has nothing to do with the LR delay, but I like you do a lot of my quick edits in VSCO Cam (and I have a film pack, ironically in my opinion the $10 filter packs are better than the $100 film pack).

The other side of this is I just can't get the simplicity and amazing performance of Photos out of my head. It is way way way too simple, but in a way that could be a good thing (limiting options can sometimes help you create better things). Syncing my LR library to different computers isn't quite as seamless as I would like and is actually taking up a lot of room already (30 GB from 2 months of shooting + back catalog). The nearline storage of Photos is so appealing - I'd love to be able to edit photos on my laptop but it is such a pain right now.

So I don't know, we'll see what happens. I am already locked into LR for a year, but I'm going to keep a close eye on Photos and will likely use both for a while until I fall into a rhythm.

Seriously though if VSCO would create a plugin for Photos (when this is possible) or a whole Mac app, that might be it for me. I'm just feeling like LR may be too heavy for my needs at the moment.


BTW, you have some amazing photos on your Flickr page, great work.

If they had a clarity slider to VSCO Cam, I'll be all set. Photos is definitely an interesting area but I'll keep my eye on it, just as you are. You summed it up nicely when you said Lightroom feels too heavy for your needs now, that's basically exactly as I feel!

Also, thanks so much for your kind works concerning my Flickr!
 

lcseds

macrumors 65816
Jun 20, 2006
1,228
1,120
NC, USA
Photos does not look too bad for modest users like myself. But I need a way to remove unwanted objects similar to the healing brush in LR. The only tool in photos is one that just smudges and smears. Looks like it would be fine for solid back rounds but useless otherwise. If I can get a healing brush and NIK plug-ins, Photos may suit my needs.
 

skaeight

macrumors regular
Jan 7, 2009
212
3
Photos does not look too bad for modest users like myself. But I need a way to remove unwanted objects similar to the healing brush in LR. The only tool in photos is one that just smudges and smears. Looks like it would be fine for solid back rounds but useless otherwise. If I can get a healing brush and NIK plug-ins, Photos may suit my needs.

I'm not 100% sure whether this was there in previous betas or not, but the latest one does at least also allow you to select an area to clone.

In the theoretical world where I fully use Photos I'd just use Pixelmator or Affinity for work like this that goes beyond what Photos can do by itself.
 

Razeus

macrumors 603
Jul 11, 2008
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I, too, am a fan of the VSCO cam app. It's the only app I use on my phone besides the camera app. It seems MUCH better than the $99+ I paid for one of their Lightroom packs, in which I could NEVER get the photos processed like they have in their examples.
 

skaeight

macrumors regular
Jan 7, 2009
212
3
I, too, am a fan of the VSCO cam app. It's the only app I use on my phone besides the camera app. It seems MUCH better than the $99+ I paid for one of their Lightroom packs, in which I could NEVER get the photos processed like they have in their examples.

Ya I don't quite get it. The VSCO Film packs seem to be too heavy handed. If you use them as they are out of the box, in most cases it looks like your photos have been dragged through a dumpster - just way over processed. They're typically too dark and have WAY too much grain.

I've gotten good results by dialing a few of those things back, but it is amazing as well to me that after paying ~ $100 I that I can't get results similar to those in their sample images without any additional work. Isn't that the point of presets?

One other thing to add here, I've noticed that the Black levels slider in Photos is much better than in Lightroom (Black levels is one of those settings I feel like I really have to crank in LR to see any result - shadows are the same way). I have trouble replicating the faded look manually in LR, but it's a snap with Photos primarily just by using the black level slider. This is one of the primary tricks of VSCO - adding a fade, so it's nice I can add this easily in Photos.
 

Razeus

macrumors 603
Jul 11, 2008
5,358
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Ya I don't quite get it. The VSCO Film packs seem to be too heavy handed. If you use them as they are out of the box, in most cases it looks like your photos have been dragged through a dumpster - just way over processed. They're typically too dark and have WAY too much grain.

I've gotten good results by dialing a few of those things back, but it is amazing as well to me that after paying ~ $100 I that I can't get results similar to those in their sample images without any additional work. Isn't that the point of presets?

One other thing to add here, I've noticed that the Black levels slider in Photos is much better than in Lightroom (Black levels is one of those settings I feel like I really have to crank in LR to see any result - shadows are the same way). I have trouble replicating the faded look manually in LR, but it's a snap with Photos primarily just by using the black level slider. This is one of the primary tricks of VSCO - adding a fade, so it's nice I can add this easily in Photos.

Yep. I felt I was playing around with the sliders too much, especially at the price they charge. It is a preset afterall. It's why I only bought one pack from them. Their examples look damn good. Do bad I can't actually replicate them.

I love their iOS app. It's what I think the LR stuff should be. One click, maybe a slider for the intesity and a few changes for the exposure and sharpening and done. I love they FINALLY added the copy and paste feature which was badly needed. Now I can do a whole set of photos easily.

I may still process my photos using LR, but only to set the initial exposure and color, noise reduction, (if needed), and had my geotagging. Then export them to my phone and use VSCO to finish it off.
 

joedec

macrumors 6502
Jul 25, 2014
443
51
Cupertino
I keep checking this thread... waiting... now its starting to remind me of a sign I saw above a bar.

"Free Beer Tomorrow"

:D
 

skaeight

macrumors regular
Jan 7, 2009
212
3
And on the other hand... I'm uploading a small set of photos to icloud in Photos to test it out and it is destroying my internet connection. I have a decent connection - 35/3, and other sync / online backup programs don't do this. Apple, have you heard of throttling?

I can barely load web pages. I don't think this is going to work.
 

576316

macrumors 601
May 19, 2011
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Yep. I felt I was playing around with the sliders too much, especially at the price they charge. It is a preset afterall. It's why I only bought one pack from them. Their examples look damn good. Do bad I can't actually replicate them.

I love their iOS app. It's what I think the LR stuff should be. One click, maybe a slider for the intesity and a few changes for the exposure and sharpening and done. I love they FINALLY added the copy and paste feature which was badly needed. Now I can do a whole set of photos easily.

I may still process my photos using LR, but only to set the initial exposure and color, noise reduction, (if needed), and had my geotagging. Then export them to my phone and use VSCO to finish it off.

I plan to use VSCO Cam for 95% of my future editing. I'm in love with this app! The only feature it's missing, for me, is a clarity slider. I'm a BIG fan of clarity when editing in Lightroom, it can really give a photograph that 'pop' or wow factor, bringing out and exaggerating hidden details. Give me a clarity slider and VSCO Cam will be the best photo editor on the market, for me!
 

skaeight

macrumors regular
Jan 7, 2009
212
3
How does VSCO Cam invoke and use plugins the same as Lightroom and Aperture can do? How do you use the Nik Collection, Pixelmator, Perfect Photo Suite or other plugin?

As of now VSCO Cam is only an iOS app. It doesn't let you use plugins. It's kind of it's own ecosystem, you import photos, edit them there, and they will sync between your iPhone / iPad. You can save them back to your camera roll or share them with some services.
 

576316

macrumors 601
May 19, 2011
4,056
2,556
How does VSCO Cam invoke and use plugins the same as Lightroom and Aperture can do? How do you use the Nik Collection, Pixelmator, Perfect Photo Suite or other plugin?

It's probably the most powerful photo editing for iOS right now. An incredible app which I think has completely changed the way I edit my photographs. Considering getting myself an iPad Air 2 for the extra processing power and RAM because VSCO keeps crashing during editing and exporting, on my iPad Air. Pretty sure it's down to CPU and RAM restrictions.
 
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