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Lion should really be on a disc
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That means a disk failure requires a visit to an Apple Store. This This would mean repairs are required to go through Apple which is an issue.
Secondly if the engineer meant the "Recovery Partition" that others have mentioned. It's not large enough to store OS X or the iApps you get with the system as it is supposedly only 800 Meg. IAnd many people don't have the time it would take to download the software from Apple over their net connection. If the systems come without DVDs, there better be a way to create them.
What if I want to do a clean install of Snow Leopard to get ready for Lion? How would i do a clean install if i'm upgrading Lion off the Mac App Store?
Yuck! All low-end Windows machines have this BS "factory restore partition" feature because the manufacturer is too cheap to include a real copy of Windows 7.
So I guess Lion is the official end of Mac OS as "software" that you can actually buy and own. From here on out, it is going to be more akin to the iOS "firmware" model--no more customizable installations or upgradable hardware, just computer-like disposable appliances. I give it six months before Apple discontinues the Mac Pro desktop (possibly also the iMac) and switches all of its products to proprietary Apple-designed ARM CPU/GPU system-on-a-chip designs. I hate to see the concept of a real workstation computer disappear from the industry, but it looks like both Apple and Microsoft are striving to be "infotainment" companies.
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I live in a rural area of New England, and the prospect of downloading Lion on our internet connection gives me the willies.
I don't think so. Forcing developpers to write new apps for a new architecture would take months, if not years (think of Adobe who adapts VERY slowly). During these years, there would be close to no content on Mac. (I'm not talking of fart apps or Twitter clients here, but rather "real", content creation apps. Apple did not forget these, otehrwise there would be no Final Cut Pro X.)
And no, you can't use a system similar to Rosetta because ARM processors are much less powerful than X86-64. You'd have a HUGE performance penalty which would render pretty much impossible running software with even the slightest amount of graphics.
I'm not sure I like this. Even though I can easily make a backup of the system to another drive using CCC or another utility (or back up the recovery partition itself), it still feels good to have an official install disc to use if I have a hard drive failure.
Also, if a user fails to do this and their primary hard drive fails, then what? Take the machine to the store for a failed hard drive? That's a bit excessive especially if you're using a Mac Pro.
Not smart, Apple. A pressed DVD costs like 2 cents to make. Just give us boot media with new machines like you always have.
I booted into the recovery partition and erased my main drive and to re-install Lion it needs to be downloaded again. I think this is so stupid.
If it were in a Disc you'd still have to install Snow Leopard, so you just have to download Lion which is less time than it takes to order it and wait for the box to arrive to your home.
What? If Lion shipped on a disk, why would you need to install Snow Leopard first? Please just take a moment and realize how stupid that sounds.
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It's good that at least we have found a way to burn a disc for a clean install. Of course an official way by Apple is always welcome.
Of course an official way by Apple is always welcome.
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This recovery partition seems like just another way for apple to take control from the users.
Example: I recently upgraded my Macbook Pro Unibody with an SSD. In a new mac with Lion i'd be stuffed. How can I install OSX on that?
Example: I recently upgraded my Macbook Pro Unibody with an SSD. In a new mac with Lion i'd be stuffed. How can I install OSX on that?
You'd have to put it in a case, install it from your old hard drive, and then swap the drives. Or extract the dmg and burn to a disk/partition/thumb drive.
forgive me if what I am about to say is beyond stupid but... didnt they mention something about delta updates for ios where when a new firmware is available instead of downloading the entire OS again it only downloads the upgraded/updated files.
Is this something that is possible with Lion? could the lion download be a delta download and only upgrades parts of snow leopard that have been rewritten in Lion?
:s Even reading what I just said seems madness to me but its 2011 anythings possible.
I mean... Wii U ... anything is possible...these days companies think adding a U to the end of an already insane name is normal.
Is this something that is possible with Lion? could the lion download be a delta download and only upgrades parts of snow leopard that have been rewritten in Lion?
:s Even reading what I just said seems madness to me but its 2011 anythings possible.
I mean... Wii U ... anything is possible...these days companies think adding a U to the end of an already insane name is normal.
