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For Blu-ray, you would put it in a PS3, and see the files, copy the files to a USB drive, then place on your Mac or PC...

Do you own a PS3? You can't browse or transfer files from a Blu-ray disc. So, your idea of copying the file from your Lionsgate disc to a portable hard drive will not work.

It is my understanding that with Sony's own portable copy feature for PSP, the transfer is initiated in the BD-Live interface—then it transfers you to the XMB menu to complete the copy.
 
yay for DRM ..... (seriously, haven't they learned???) :rolleyes:

I completely agree with your sentiment. It's so annoying that they are continuing on with these stupid schemes. Honestly, this whole plan is chock full of opportunities for poor customer experience.

What amazes me the most is how Apple, who supposedly is the expert at user experience, engineers these things.
 
How will this work for Netflix versions of these discs?

I believe the passkey code is printed on the inside of the hard case which Netflix doesn't send out so you will not be able to pull the digital copy off of the DVD.

Passkey verifies that you are the owner and then it will let you download the digital copy.

Plus isn't the digital copy actually downloaded from iTunes and doesn't necessarily reside on the DVD????
 
I completely agree with your sentiment. It's so annoying that they are continuing on with these stupid schemes. Honestly, this whole plan is chock full of opportunities for poor customer experience.

What amazes me the most is how Apple, who supposedly is the expert at user experience, engineers these things.


don't blame apple ... blame the labels / studios ...
 
You guys are overthinking the digital copy on blu-ray issue. They'll probably just include a bonus DVD in the case whose sole purpose is for the digital copy. This is what Fox does for their digital copies on blu-ray, and it gets around the messy requirements of requiring either a blu-ray drive on your PC or a PS3 (and then doing a messy transfer process).

Actually, Blue Harvest has two discs in the package. One classic, standard DVD movie and another disc for the digital copy (which is probably a CD since the .m4v file specs are as follow (according to Quicktime):

- 640x480, 23.98 fps, AVC0 (I have no idea what AVC0 is)
- 44.1 kHz stereo, AAC
- 1449.02 kbits/s
- 493.80 MB

So basically you "download" the movie from the "Digital Copy" disc.

I find it funny how they call it digital copy... like the DVD is somehow an analog version or something.
 
I guess it will save some people the time of ripping the DVD...although I'm certain they'll include the commercials, upcoming attractions and other crap on the digital file.
 
On one hand, this is great news. The studios realize that people want their media in more than one format for viewing on different devices. So including an iPod version of the movie is pretty cool. No time consuming converting needed.

On the other hand DRM sucks. Not everyone uses an iPod. Not everyone uses iTunes. Not everyone uses a Mac or Windows. Of course, the most obvious thing....you don't need the studio to provide this! The people that want small versions of their media for portable devices have long since been making them without the help of the studios. Moving your media to whatever device you want for your own use is already a way of life for many people. Skirting the DRM schemes is common place. To the studios we say..."Um...yeah, thanks for providing that iPod version of the film I just bought, but we've been using our DVD rips on our portable player for years now, no thanks to you....so, really...it's OK....we've got it covered."
 
They've got this all backwards: what I want to see is when you purchase a movie on iTunes, they give you the option of receiving the DVD from the studio if you request it (a nominal shipping fee would even be fine with me). Or, a coded coupon you would print out and use at Target or whatever. I'd also like to see Apple offer you the full version of a movie after you've rented it enough times to make up the full purchase price.
 
RAMBO!

to respond to the question of 'was it good':
it was the first rambo movie i had seen. bloody, disgusting, babies thrown in fire, legs shot off... it's pretty dumb, but if that is your thing, you might love it.
 
Maybe this is also a precursor to a major QT update since none of the software that Apple has now doesn't play AVC's very well.

As far as DRM? Who cares. We'll figure out how to get past it and then it won't be an issue, just like with DVD's. With a little bit of command line work, you can already make images of blu-ray on a ps3 and on the windows side, there is software that lets you simply strip the copy protection off. Hopefully this and the Sony announcement means that Apple will finally catch up to the crowd when it comes to utilizing this video format.
 
I guess it will save some people the time of ripping the DVD...although I'm certain they'll include the commercials, upcoming attractions and other crap on the digital file.

True but some people don't have blu-ray rom drives so they CAN'T rip the movie. This is very convenient for people who have a PS3 (like me) but don't have a BR drive on a computer.
 
Maybe this is also a precursor to a major QT update since none of the software that Apple has now doesn't play AVC's very well.

As far as DRM? Who cares. We'll figure out how to get past it and then it won't be an issue, just like with DVD's. With a little bit of command line work, you can already make images of blu-ray on a ps3 and on the windows side, there is software that lets you simply strip the copy protection off. Hopefully this and the Sony announcement means that Apple will finally catch up to the crowd when it comes to utilizing this video format.

I care and you should care... I can get past a red traffic light too, but it's not legal... The music industry has FINALLY learned that DRM doesn't work ... why is the movie industry 5 years behind??
 
Do you own a PS3? You can't browse or transfer files from a Blu-ray disc. So, your idea of copying the file from your Lionsgate disc to a portable hard drive will not work.

It is my understanding that with Sony's own portable copy feature for PSP, the transfer is initiated in the BD-Live interface—then it transfers you to the XMB menu to complete the copy.

Who's to say? I don't see why Lionsgate can't author the disc (maybe put a data partition/folder on it) so you can.

I don't say anything for no reason.... yes, I own a PS3...

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/4631392/
 
They've got this all backwards: what I want to see is when you purchase a movie on iTunes, they give you the option of receiving the DVD from the studio if you request it (a nominal shipping fee would even be fine with me). Or, a coded coupon you would print out and use at Target or whatever. I'd also like to see Apple offer you the full version of a movie after you've rented it enough times to make up the full purchase price.
The second half of your post is pretty much how DIVX worked. You rent the movie and if you want to buy, you paid the cost difference and the disc was "unlocked".
I care and you should care... I can get past a red traffic light too, but it's not legal... The music industry has FINALLY learned that DRM doesn't work ... why is the movie industry 5 years behind??
Has home movies ever not had DRM? Not that I support DRM, I was just wondering.
 
I care and you should care... I can get past a red traffic light too, but it's not legal... The music industry has FINALLY learned that DRM doesn't work ... why is the movie industry 5 years behind??

Because they haven't been hacked (stripped of DRM) long enough. The music industry learned that the majority of people want to buy their product (at a lower price of course), but if they were confined to buying it the way the music industry wanted them to buy it they would just go ahead and get it off Napster or Limewire or Bit Torrent... Same thing with Movies. I don't generally pirate (freely download illegally stripped of DRM files) anything, but I want to use the media I have purchased in any way that I choose. The movie industry says that I bought a form of media but I didn't buy the movie when I buy a DVD. I beg to differ and if they want to force the issue I will beat them because this wonderful community of like minded individuals have figured out how. Beat them enough and they will figure it out. Give us what we want and we will happily pay for it (at the right price).

My point is: Sell me the movie and not the medium on which it comes.
 
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This sounds good. I hope the quality of the video is good.
 
Maybe if studios did away with all of the worthless "extras" they include on DVDs, there would be enough room for high quality iTunes copies.

Not everyone feels the same about DVD extras as you. Many of us enjoy hearing Directors, Screenwriters, DP's, etc. talk about their craft as it relates to the film. Many also enjoying the "making of" or "special effects" or "sets" segments as well. I am always amused when someone can just dismiss so much diverse and often very informative content at "worthless".

However, not to diminish your early point, there should be a way to download either the film with extras or without for people like you who have no interest in the process of how these films are made.
 
On one hand, this is great news. The studios realize that people want their media in more than one format for viewing on different devices. So including an iPod version of the movie is pretty cool. No time consuming converting needed.

On the other hand DRM sucks. Not everyone uses an iPod. Not everyone uses iTunes. Not everyone uses a Mac or Windows. Of course, the most obvious thing....you don't need the studio to provide this! The people that want small versions of their media for portable devices have long since been making them without the help of the studios. Moving your media to whatever device you want for your own use is already a way of life for many people. Skirting the DRM schemes is common place. To the studios we say..."Um...yeah, thanks for providing that iPod version of the film I just bought, but we've been using our DVD rips on our portable player for years now, no thanks to you....so, really...it's OK....we've got it covered."

Agreed. Handbrake.
 
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