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Lionsgate Adding iTunes Digital Copy on DVD and Blu-ray Discs

gkarris said:
The movie industry wants to go to a Pay-Per-View model - remember Circuit City's DIVX?

The time has come, HD DVD had ethernet ports on it, and the new Blu-ray profile will have it as well.

Look to eventually buying the Blu-ray for cheap, then paying each time you want to watch.

Sorta solves the issue about transferring a 1080 video file.

720, good enough for many, will continue to be available via download.

Don't you love the marriage of Technology and Capitalism?
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AH capitalism;)

What the consumer wants is always what ends up winning.

Pay-per-view is the model that the movie industry has used since its inception. Now, I have to say, the pay-per-view scheme has been quite effective in my own living room as I have bought many view once movies from comcrap channel one. But, why do I have to pay this ridiculous price all over again for movies that I would like to own. Honestly, I will pay-per-view it for 3 dollars and then if I like it I will pay another 3 to own a digital copy. The price sounds ridiculously low, but consumers would buy these movies in droves at the right price point. The companies would sell 20 times the number of films that they are selling now making an illegal download not worth the hassle. But if the price stays high and the product usage stays restrictive than they are cutting off their own circulation. Honestly, what makes them believe that the majority of their products are worth any more than this. I want to own the movie and do with it what I want.
 
BornAgainMac said:
Good point. It is disappointing they lock it down. I like the idea about downloading it from iTunes with a code and then you can deauthorize a machine and have it on 5 like all the other media.
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I actually loved the old model: you bought an LP, cassette, VHS, CD, DVD, etc. and you could just play it on any compatible component ... and you felt like you owned it after you bought it. So much for the old model.
 
Not on DVD

I'm not sure if the "Digital Copy" is actually on the DVD. In the case with Blue Harvest, I put in the DVD, double clicked the iTunes file icon which took me to the iTunes store where I entered to code in the box, which then proceeded to download the digital copy from iTunes.
 
bangy said:
You guys are overthinking the digital copy on blu-ray issue. They'll probably just include a bonus DVD in the case whose sole purpose is for the digital copy. This is what Fox does for their digital copies on blu-ray, and it gets around the messy requirements of requiring either a blu-ray drive on your PC or a PS3 (and then doing a messy transfer process).
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This is dumb
Why would they want to add a DVD to a Blu Ray sale? That would be just pointless.:confused:
 
spice weasel said:
I have a similar, but opposite, concern: as an AppleTV owner, I don't want a low-rez copy that will look great on an iPod but crappy on my HDTV. For Blu-Ray this won't be a problem. But for DVD, I can't see how they will fit the full movie and an iTunes mp4 copy that will be of high enough quality for my tastes. HB encodes at 2500 kbps and AAC+AC3 weigh in at over 2 gigs (sometimes well over) for most movies.

Maybe if studios did away with all of the worthless "extras" they include on DVDs, there would be enough room for high quality iTunes copies.
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Those "worthless extras" are one of the biggest reasons why people left VHS behind for DVD :rolleyes:
 
Good move. Hope the other studios jump on board. I like the Blu-Ray download using the code. If all BR disks came with this feature, I would probably stop buying DVDs (when the desired movie is available on BR). Not being able to HandBrake the movie onto iTunes is a decision-factor when deciding how to purchase a movie.

Has Fox included a digital copy on any other films other than Harvest Moon? Any list of future titles?
 
MacFly123 said:
Those "worthless extras" are one of the biggest reasons why people left VHS behind for DVD :rolleyes:
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It may be for you, but for most people the good things about DVD over VHS were:
- if you rent it, it can't possibly need to be rewinded / no need to rewind
- quality is always great no matter how many times you play it

There's also:
- multiple languages (useful for people who don't speak english)
- multiple subtitles (useful for people who want to learn another language) which aren't recorded directly into the picture.
- there's no tape to "break" (actually happened to me once, the tape just broke at the end of the rewind)
- 4:3 *and* widescreen on the same disc (when DVD was introduced, anyway)

Most of my early DVDs didn't have artwork on them, they were double-sided. One side has the 4:3 version and the other has the 16:9/2.35:1 version.

Yes, a lot of people like the extras. But the "no rewinding" and "always good quality" points are what drove people to DVD.
 
Yvan256 said:
It may be for you, but for most people the good things about DVD over VHS were:
- if you rent it, it can't possibly need to be rewinded / no need to rewind
- quality is always great no matter how many times you play it

There's also:
- multiple languages (useful for people who don't speak english)
- multiple subtitles (useful for people who want to learn another language) which aren't recorded directly into the picture.
- there's no tape to "break" (actually happened to me once, the tape just broke at the end of the rewind)
- 4:3 *and* widescreen on the same disc (when DVD was introduced, anyway)

Most of my early DVDs didn't have artwork on them, they were double-sided. One side has the 4:3 version and the other has the 16:9/2.35:1 version.

Yes, a lot of people like the extras. But the "no rewinding" and "always good quality" points are what drove people to DVD.
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This isn't really worth arguing because it is just both of our opinions without numbers to support them. I agree with all of your points. I am just saying that extra features were right up there with all the other reasons you listed.
 
rubberduck007 said:
Good news!

Is the new Rambo any good?
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I'm not sure you can say it's good, but I enjoyed it immensely. If you're tired of action heroes and villains giving well-rehearsed speeches or one-liners before they start the violence, it's a breath of fresh air. It's also the bloodiest thing I've seen in a while. Many people will hate it.
 
I have purchased just over a dozen BR and HD-DVDs.

I rip them to to my NAS (using AnyDVD - Windows only) and keep them in my favorite movie library.

If I didn't have the ability to rip them and keep them available through my front end, I wouldn't have purchased them. I like having the physical disk as a back up, but hate dealing with jukeboxes or even worse, individual players.

This coding to a single iTunes or a computer is a joke. What if I want to use a different front end, like the few alternatives, which are making their first tentative steps into the Mac OS world?

This scheme is DOA, as far as I am concerned. Only an idiot would get get so tightly locked into one box, or one application, so if he wishes to change a year later to some better alternative, he can't because he'll lose his investment.

It's NOT capitalism (which encourages competition.) It's more akin to a State monopoly, which allows only one option, and decides for you what is this option.

As I said, only an idiot would go for this....
 
macUser2007 said:
I have purchased just over a dozen BR and HD-DVDs.

I rip them to to my NAS (using AnyDVD - Windows only) and keep them in my favorite movie library.

If I didn't have the ability to rip them and keep them available through my front end, I wouldn't have purchased them. I like having the physical disk as a back up, but hate dealing with jukeboxes or even worse, individual players.

This coding to a single iTunes or a computer is a joke. What if I want to use a different front end, like the few alternatives, which are making their first tentative steps into the Mac OS world?

This scheme is DOA, as far as I am concerned. Only an idiot would get get so tightly locked into one box, or one application, so if he wishes to change a year later to some better alternative, he can't because he'll lose his investment.

It's NOT capitalism (which encourages competition.) It's more akin to a State monopoly, which allows only one option, and decides for you what is this option.

As I said, only an idiot would go for this....
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you are silly, i just tried my first one, HITMAN, works great on my mac. you can also use it on your pc. it's easy, looks great and works.

so... for me being a cynical person, this actually works well.

i would buy more movies with this feature! it's great. helps the studios manage copying, but allows freedom for consumer. win-win scenario
 
sleepingworker said:
I actually loved the old model: you bought an LP, cassette, VHS, CD, DVD, etc. and you could just play it on any compatible component ... and you felt like you owned it after you bought it. So much for the old model.
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you get that with Blu-Ray! and now with a digital copy, you can take it with you to other devices. which you couldn't before on dvd. unless illegally ripping it.

this helps consumers, doesn't hinder
 
mdntcallr said:
you get that with Blu-Ray! and now with a digital copy, you can take it with you to other devices. which you couldn't before on dvd. unless illegally ripping it.

this helps consumers, doesn't hinder
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Good to know. Look forward to one day having Blu-Ray in a MBP (next update maybe?). If that happens, I probably won't buy a PS3.
 
Digital copy on Blu

My guess is going to b that on Blu-Rays, the digital copy is not going to be HD. It well use the same Low-Def
file from the DVD's digital copy unfortunately...:(
 
This is how digital copies work on Blu-ray discs.

1. You get the Blu-ray disc inside the case (Blu-ray only)
2. You get a separate DVD (standard DVD) which holds the digital copy version of the movie. Then you enter a unique code that is contained inside the DVD package. iTunes copies the Digital Copy onto your hard drive and your iTunes account name is then attached to it as if you bought it from iTunes directly.
3. Unfortunately, the digital copy is standard definition (anamorphic of course)
4. The digital copy will play on *ALL* iPods with video and also Apple TV and computer. Yes, I have a 5th Gen iPod (which apparently can play anamorphic digital copies... I've tried it) and I have an iPod touch.

I'm going to start future-proofing my purchases. If I see a Blu-ray movie that includes a digital copy, I'll get that (even though I don't have a Blu-ray player) because I can watch the digital copy on my Apple TV until a day comes where I can get a Blu-ray player (perhaps when the prices are lower) and by that time, I will not have to re-buy those movies because they'll already be ready to throw in my Blu-ray player to watch... pretty sweet deal if you ask me.
 
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