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iPhone Lose Jailbreak for iOS 7?

There is NO must have feature in this OS.. At least in iOS 5 there was imessage which was worth losing my JB at the time. Siri wasn't...

What about this version? Nothing.

No native widget support. A under-utilized lockscreen. Apps still do not have real system level integration (quick replies, even chat heads, etc). No defaulting of apps. No 3rd party access to the nitro engine. List goes on.. Most of this is remedied with JB tweaks.

But I can ask Siri what Lady Gaga is saying on twitter! Check and check.
 
999blb said:
Lose Jailbreak for iOS 7?
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This is how I feel about the idea of giving up jailbreak for iOS 7:
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I went to the GM two days ago. I have no regrets. I'm sure there may be a situation in which I miss iFile and Safari Download Manager. But the improvements to Safari, Notifications, and multitasking are great, and I like iTunes Radio. And Control Panel covers a lot of what I wanted to do with tweaks.

So far the thing that I'm missing most is Infinidock, and if Apple would just let us have he same 5-Icon dock as the iPad I'd be very satisfied.

Don't get me wrong; I'll be jailbreaking when the new jailbreak comes out. But I am feeling the loss of my jailbreak much less than during previous periods of jailbreak loss.
 
It's always better to stay low then to be sorry later... 6 is more reliable than 7 at the moment
 
Sedrick said:
I've never found a new iOS that justifies loosing a jailbreak.
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Exactly. Plus it seems from past posts around this time that the majority of people who just couldn't wait to update to the latest iOS lost their jailbreak and almost immediately regretted it.
 
Bl0ckHe1d said:
Curious...seen a rumours somewhere that Apple are currently testing iOS7.0.1, 7.0.2 and 7.1 wondering if this is a future quick release to close the latest iOS7 exploits?
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This can happen if the ones closing the holes are the hackers themselves at this point lol
 
I won't give up on jailbreak over ios7, having Zephyr makes the iPhone experience way much better. :D
 
ios7

I won't update to IOS7 until I can jb it, I just installed it on my wifes Iphone5 and its cool but not cool enough for me to loose my JB I can wait a few months until we can jb IOS7...
 
I installed 7 on my iPad mini last night. I really like it and am looking forward to putting it on my 5. After it is jailbroken. :)

I'm just a tweaker, but my tweaks add more to my experience with the phone than a new paint job. I will have a few less tweaks to do on iOS 7 (control center, app switcher and folders all look great.) But I hate those giant icons being arranged left to right, top to bottom; Being unable to put Jukebox on my home screen... The list goes on...
 
999blb said:
iOS 7 is going to be released to the public soon, and I'm unsure whether or not I should upgrade up to it. I own an iPhone 4S that is jailbroken on iOS 6.1.2, and I really want to try out iOS 7.
What are the positives/negatives to upgrading to iOS 7 or staying on my current firmware?

Thanks.
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TL;DR

Not worth the aggravation to upgrade.

Wait until it is jailbroken, then upgrade to iOS7.

Believe me, you'll regret losing your jailbreak.
 
I think a lot of this has to do with what jailbreak tweaks you use and rely on. I dropped my JB and am on iOS 7 (since the GM release last week). I had to lose my jailbreak to get my iPhone 5 replaced before the warranty was up, but even so, I haven't missed the jailbreak since installing iOS 7 (though the 3 days after the phone swap before the GM release, when I was on stock 6.1.4 were ROUGH).

To those who say there aren't any new features, I question what iOS you're looking at. This is not a cosmetic update. iOS 7 natively has added many things that previously were big reasons I would jailbreak.

1) Control center adds super quick access to most needed toggles, brightness, volume and media player controls, plus a few convenient shortcuts. While not as extensive in toggles available, nor customizable, it has the big things. This takes the place of NC Settings and Jukebox (for me)

2) Notification center (which is improved, IMO...I like the Today view a lot) and Control center are both accessible from the lock screen. Takes the place of the main reason I used LockInfo.

3) Folders are multi-page. While you can't nest folders, multi-page folders without limits was the reason I used FolderEnhancer. iOS 7 works just fine for this need.

4) More visual multitasking with throwing off the cards as an easy way to close them. Takes the place of Auxo (and IMO, works better and is prettier than Auxo).

In addition to these things, the camera app and photos app are vastly improved, Safari is MUCH better, the visual design language is really nice IMO (though the icons aren't my favorite...but it grows on you), etc.

Overall, the additions to iOS 7 take the place of most of what I would jailbreak for.

If you are dependent on Activator gestures, or must have widgets, or are such a themer that the lack of customization would be painful (I love themes on my JB iphones, but I'm good for now), rely on the tethering hacks or other must-have tweaks, then it may be beneficial to stay on your JB iOS, but I think losing a JB for iOS 7 is far less painful than it was when I did it last year to iOS 6.

That said, when (if) there's a jailbreak out for iOS7, I'll almost certainly go that route for even further tweaks. Right now, the only tweak I really miss is SwipeSelection.
 
After taking a quick look at all of my tweaks, it looks like the only ones that aren't addressed in iOS 7 are:

Action Menu (I use the Favorites function to save passwords and other things I need to type on a frequent basis)
Activator (holding up or down volume buttons to change tracks while phone is in my pocket)
DietBar
MailEnhancer Pro (different colored bars for different mailboxes is nice)
Nitrous
Opener (obviously Google Maps is far better than Apple Maps. Nice when the phone can default to Google)
RichText for Mail
TetherMe (don't use it much, but it has come in handy)
TypeStatus (actually very handy for me)
UserAgent Faker (mobile sites are a p.i.t.a.)
Zephyr (I would certainly miss this)

Hmmmmmm. That's a bit much to sacrifice.
 
Jman13 said:
I think a lot of this has to do with what jailbreak tweaks you use and rely on. I dropped my JB and am on iOS 7 (since the GM release last week). I had to lose my jailbreak to get my iPhone 5 replaced before the warranty was up, but even so, I haven't missed the jailbreak since installing iOS 7 (though the 3 days after the phone swap before the GM release, when I was on stock 6.1.4 were ROUGH).
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Thanks for your feedback. I agree, iOS 7 is eliminating a few tweaks I have done in the past. And kind of like you said, I am just really in love with my current setup. As soon as they have iOS 7 jailbroken I'll jump on it and update it to my current setup but with a few less tweaks and the updated stock apps. I won't have to do anything to the lock screen anymore for one. I won't need Auxo (I bet they wish they could get some money from Apple as it looks like they implemented their software!)

I think at this stage all I'll need is Springtomize, Gridlock, Jukebox, Dashboard and Infinidock. MUCH shorter list than I have today!
 
iOS7 looks great; am installing it on my GF's phone this weekend (so i can check it out up close).

but i can't imagine giving up my ownership of my phone; the right to use it as i want, to customize it, make it do things the way i want.

JB vs ios7? no contest...
 
randy98mtu said:
Thanks for your feedback. I agree, iOS 7 is eliminating a few tweaks I have done in the past. And kind of like you said, I am just really in love with my current setup. As soon as they have iOS 7 jailbroken I'll jump on it and update it to my current setup but with a few less tweaks and the updated stock apps. I won't have to do anything to the lock screen anymore for one. I won't need Auxo (I bet they wish they could get some money from Apple as it looks like they implemented their software!)

I think at this stage all I'll need is Springtomize, Gridlock, Jukebox, Dashboard and Infinidock. MUCH shorter list than I have today!
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Don't even really need Jukebox, since music controls are always just a simple swipe up away.
 
Jman13 said:
Don't even really need Jukebox, since music controls are always just a simple swipe up away.
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The way I use my phone though, I sit the phone in a dock 80% of the day and just have my home screen up. I can slide to look at the next song, or swipe back or forth to repeat or skip songs. Like you said, it's all in how you use your phone and for me, I will still install Jukebox. :)
 
bigsexyy81 said:
After taking a quick look at all of my tweaks, it looks like the only ones that aren't addressed in iOS 7 are:

Action Menu (I use the Favorites function to save passwords and other things I need to type on a frequent basis)
Activator (holding up or down volume buttons to change tracks while phone is in my pocket)
DietBar
MailEnhancer Pro (different colored bars for different mailboxes is nice)
Nitrous
Opener (obviously Google Maps is far better than Apple Maps. Nice when the phone can default to Google)
RichText for Mail
TetherMe (don't use it much, but it has come in handy)
TypeStatus (actually very handy for me)
UserAgent Faker (mobile sites are a p.i.t.a.)
Zephyr (I would certainly miss this)

Hmmmmmm. That's a bit much to sacrifice.
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Thanks, I installed a couple of these. Haven't messed with cydia in awhile, but yeah there are several things I cannot give up, like status bar icons for notifications, springtomizer, bitesms (quick reply), and lockscreen info.
 
I'm weak and a liar. I ordered my 5s. Course I may leave it in the box until the jb comes out. I'll give it a go for a few days. :)
 
Jman13 said:
Oh come now, we all know that's not going to happen. ;)
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;)

Just like I keep telling myself I'll just return it or sell it if I don't really like it. I think it's all a defense mechanism to deal with the wife despite she said "You can get it." :D
 
i'm thinking of getting a 5S to carry around, so people see it. then, when i get home, i can whip out my JB'd 4S, and do real things... :D
 
Jman13 said:
I think a lot of this has to do with what jailbreak tweaks you use and rely on. I dropped my JB and am on iOS 7 (since the GM release last week). I had to lose my jailbreak to get my iPhone 5 replaced before the warranty was up, but even so, I haven't missed the jailbreak since installing iOS 7 (though the 3 days after the phone swap before the GM release, when I was on stock 6.1.4 were ROUGH).

To those who say there aren't any new features, I question what iOS you're looking at. This is not a cosmetic update. iOS 7 natively has added many things that previously were big reasons I would jailbreak.

1) Control center adds super quick access to most needed toggles, brightness, volume and media player controls, plus a few convenient shortcuts. While not as extensive in toggles available, nor customizable, it has the big things. This takes the place of NC Settings and Jukebox (for me)

2) Notification center (which is improved, IMO...I like the Today view a lot) and Control center are both accessible from the lock screen. Takes the place of the main reason I used LockInfo.

3) Folders are multi-page. While you can't nest folders, multi-page folders without limits was the reason I used FolderEnhancer. iOS 7 works just fine for this need.

4) More visual multitasking with throwing off the cards as an easy way to close them. Takes the place of Auxo (and IMO, works better and is prettier than Auxo).

In addition to these things, the camera app and photos app are vastly improved, Safari is MUCH better, the visual design language is really nice IMO (though the icons aren't my favorite...but it grows on you), etc.

Overall, the additions to iOS 7 take the place of most of what I would jailbreak for.

If you are dependent on Activator gestures, or must have widgets, or are such a themer that the lack of customization would be painful (I love themes on my JB iphones, but I'm good for now), rely on the tethering hacks or other must-have tweaks, then it may be beneficial to stay on your JB iOS, but I think losing a JB for iOS 7 is far less painful than it was when I did it last year to iOS 6.

That said, when (if) there's a jailbreak out for iOS7, I'll almost certainly go that route for even further tweaks. Right now, the only tweak I really miss is SwipeSelection.
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How is it like Auxo, a swipe up from the bottom doesn't reveal multitasking/switcher bar does it? This is really the only tweak why I'm not parading. I hate to double click the Home button to multitask.
 
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