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Lots of doom and gloom here
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The two people I know who already got theirs seem very pleased, one of whom is an AD. And even graphic design people actually work with their computers, they don’t sit around all day admiring The Object. For what it’s worth, she once smacked her MacBook Pro hard enough to bend the unibody frame for being too slow(!!). This one has thus far escaped that fate. ?
FWIW I love my mid-2011 13" MBA! ?
Seriously, I've gone 10 1/2 years on this Mac without a single need of repair or service, and for the past 6 years I've been rock solid on Sierra. That said, I'm looking forward to getting the new MBP, because I can't go any further than where I am at on my Mac. I have some software that has a hardware requirement that my MBA doesn't cover, so it's definitely time for the upgrade. I was going to go with the 14" 10/16/16, 16GB, 2TB, but in realizing that there's only a $200 difference between the 14" and 16", the extra $200 justifies the heat dissipation and speakers, so I'm leaning towards the 16".
BL.
My 16GB 256GB M1 Mini is great. Fast quiet & lovely. I am currently using a 16gb 2TB 15.4" 2014 MBP that won't run Monterey. Unfortunately to replace it with a new 16GB 2TB 16" MBP would cost around £3,000 which I just cannot justify at present. I'm going to have to leave it another year or two until there are older model M1s in the Refurb Store at a more affordable price.
The good news is that the price of used Intel MBPs has dropped a lot recently & I just found a used 16gb 256GB 15.4" 2015 MBP that will run Monterey at a great price. It's fully functional but a bit beaten up but no worse than my existing MBP. With an eBay Black Friday discount it only cost just under £245. I can swap in the 2TB SSD from my existing MBP.
The good news is that the price of used Intel MBPs has dropped a lot recently & I just found a used 16gb 256GB 15.4" 2015 MBP that will run Monterey at a great price. It's fully functional but a bit beaten up but no worse than my existing MBP. With an eBay Black Friday discount it only cost just under £245. I can swap in the 2TB SSD from my existing MBP.
Apple releases the M1 MacBook Pro.
“OMG, it’s an old design!”
Apple releases the 14” and 16” MacBook Pro.
”OMG, they’re too fat! And they’ve got a notch!”
Apple releases the M1 iMac.
”OMG, it’s got white bezels!”
I wonder, do these griping design critics ever buy computers? If so, do they ever turn them on?
I’ve seen furniture stores that use cardboard mockups of computers to dress up their rooms. Maybe there’s a market for custom-printing those, so people can have Just The Perfect Computer Design sitting on their shelves.
A lot of the complaining is probably also from people who don't own and probably have not even seen these computers in real life.
There are a lot of miserable bastards on these forums, and that's putting it nicely!
Excited by the way M1 is going but experience so far is a solid meh! bordering on wtf cos two weeks to migrate from 2013 iMac (after borking the M1) with help from Apple Support and still on something that seems half finished and another reset Monday and finally seem to be getting on an even keel.
Awaits next iterations to see where I can trade this 24" in for something better. Was sorely tempted to look elsewhere but went past the 14 day open box returns due to Photos doing silly things (looks back, should have done it). And I hate Windows.
Awaits next iterations to see where I can trade this 24" in for something better. Was sorely tempted to look elsewhere but went past the 14 day open box returns due to Photos doing silly things (looks back, should have done it). And I hate Windows.
The problem is the MAIN programmers on the Adobe Team that did the MAIN brute force of Photoshop and such, are Thomas Knoll and bro John Knoll, those dudes have all but left the building.
I honestly doubt they have been really "knee deep" since 1991-2010. Today's new programmers especially one's trying to take over the MASSIVE project that is the Creative Suite/Cloud, are doing the best they can. Heck Illustrator came out BEFORE Photoshop!! These apps are like WINDOWS almost, in the fact that they have been carried over year after YEARS!
I am good, I got the 50% discount on the Affinity Suite and this gives me plenty of money for new M1achines!
Here is my perfect workflow MUCHO HAPPY:
(NO ADOBE)
Illustrator = Affinity Designer (M1)
Photoshop = Affinity Photo (M1) + Pixelmator (M1)
InDesign = Affinity Publisher (M1)
Dreamweaver = VSCode + Xcode + BBEdit + tools (all M1)
Audition = Logic Pro + tools (all M1)
Premiere = Final Cut Pro (M1)
Encoder = Compressor (M1)
Effects = Motion (M1)
Lightroom = Photos (M1) + Pixelmator (M1)
Acrobat = Preview + Finder (actions) (M1)
You may think it's crazy, but NATIVE is NATIVE, and new support is awesome. I have a perpetual Adobe license w/Older Versions of CC and plenty of OLD Mac Pros with all the goods Plug-ins and such.
The above tools are updated and play nice with Carbon Copy, and on M1 I can GET IN and GET OUT!
If I have an old script or plug-in batch I gotta run, goto the old 3.2 8-core! Intel Mac Pro! BOOM, and put that machine to work while I go dink and dunk on the M1 at BLAZING speeds...
---•••--- IN OTHER NEWS ---•••---
I am working with an Xcode project that I had to stop on my 2019 15" MBP (16GB-8{16}core), because I wanted to keep the machine and really really didn't want it to die, especially cause I wanted to get the 2021 16" M1P (32GB-8-core) to do speed comps.
The 2019 got so HOT and the fans ramped up all the time I would get scared. Throttling SUCKS! (I've had 2 windows+intel machines die, no balls
)What's sick is my workflow was AWFUL. To cut to the chase:
Weeks 2-3 of my new M1P 32/1TB 8c/16gpu, went 1.5x the speed for some of my "own Xcode apps" processing,
compile speed was in seconds compared to 20s
the project uses about 24GBs of VRAM (aka shared RAM) doing renderings I couldn't even do on the 2019!
but here is the kicker:
I worked NON-STOP for 2 weeks about 10 days worth. I basically got 2 MONTHS in!! worth of work done in 2 WEEKS!!!
WOOT WOOT, took a break for 2 days.
2 WEEKS equals 2 MONTHS of time, plus I couldn't put in this much CONCENTRATED time!
i.e. I couldn't work for 2 months straight on the project, the time saving is AMAZING!!! (it's gonna get done!)
Lastly my project pushed the 10-cores to 50% w/2x e-cores, and 100% w/8x p-cores, gpu at 50%
6 hours of used 75% of battery.
THING IS BOSS!!
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Apple buyers in general are painted as only interested in clout by PCMR people and to look cool with their Apple computer in a café.
Then in the next sentence the same people complain "OMG iMac is the same design as 9 years ago" (old iMac) or "OMG new iMac still has a chin and white bezels" or "OMG M1 MBP has the same design as the out going model" or "OMG new 14" and 16" MBP are ugly and have a notch". Completely ignoring the actual hardware and only commenting on the cosmetics.
It's almost like the people complaining about Apple being a lifestyle brand are the only ones that consider Apple a lifestyle brand.
Quite a few “Apple lifestyle” people in these forums.
And “AAA gamers” who think the most important thing a computer can do is to run games (but, strangely enough, bought a computer that they already knew didn’t run their games).
These are my favorite kinds of people. They are unequalled in mental gymnastics. They’ll claim there are no games for MacOS, and when you provide evidence that Mac has some games, they shift the goalposts to some ridiculous titles that are benchmark porn, yet never show up on the Steam top ten a month after release.
There’s no point in reasoning with them, just troll them and watch them have a mental breakdown.
I'm sorry that you have had a bumpy ride moving to M1. This is early days of a transition so you can expect to hit some unpaved roads.
I don't know if it helps you to know or if it adds to your frustration, but not everyone has had problems switching over. My own experience was super smooth. I finally deleted the Windows VM that I had not run for over a year and that was about it. freed some space. I'm sure that if I was running some software that had not been updated, it might have caused more problems, but all the software I use daily either updated pretty quickly or has been running well on Rosetta.
Hopefully, when the next updates to the iMac line come out (probably in the spring) that they meet your needs and that the switchover goes more smoothly. I'm sure that you'll be able to get a good price for your 24" iMac if you decide to sell it. Those are sweet machines for a consumer / prosumer user.
I thought Pixelmator pro does have batching capabilities through automator (or whatever the new name is) support?
Was at Best Buy the other day. Checked on inventory of 16" M1 Max 1TB 32GB or 64GB DRAM but no stock. Played with the store demo 16" M1 Pro while I was there. Fishbowl Benchmark only shows ~1700 while other laptops are more like ~3300. Curious to see on M1 Max.
https://testdrive-archive.azurewebsites.net/performance/fishbowl/
https://testdrive-archive.azurewebsites.net/performance/fishbowl/
Appearance is subjective, I like it. Performance and features are v. important. Personally, I'm delighted with my new 14" MBP. It has the features that I want but, I admit, it's a bit pricey.
If I were bothered about the appearance, I could go with the Air. You pats your money....
I have calmed down some now and taking it as a bump on the road in my life long use of the the fruity machine. I have just reset the thing and it is running better and cured several issues but it is not something done lightly due to photos taking so long to chat to iCloud to get the books in order every time. Photos is still the big remaining issue for me.
(been reading some very interesting info one the way these work vs pre m1 etc. eclectic light co web page).
But things make my teeth itch when I see something not right (for me that is) and it started with the headphone socket and worked back from there rather than what was in it. Looking forward to what may come.
M1 iPad Pro is sweet though.
Is photography really an industry? It seems more like a lot of small businesses and a lot of amateurs to me. For much less than the price Adobe charges, someone can own both Pixelmator and Affinity. Personally when I need to edit Photoshop files I use Pixelmator which also integrates nicely with the Apple Photos app.
Are you, like 10 years old. Of. course photography is an industry. There are many full time careers in photography, in fact for awhile I was a wedding and portrait Photographer making quite good money. And then there are photo journalists, fashion photographers, pornography, etc. Look up Photography in the Dictionary of Occupational Titles.
Those at Time/Life, Getty Images, American Greetings, among a good 100 other photography companies known around the world would love to have a good laugh at this post.
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