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slitherjef

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Welp, I'm back to my circular thinking again with this idea with the thoughts popping back in to go back into the mainstream for computing even though I don't really like where that stream is heading...

Anyway got to look at an actual 14" M1 MacBook pro today, the 2k 512gb model. Spent a little time with it. The 2k price already sticker shocking me. Can't really see what 2 grand offers. Might just being cheap I don't know. Screen did look good. Didn't mess with the keyboard but I understand they are better than the butterfly's. Notch? Meh.

Found the programs and the second thing I noticed and realized after the 2k price was, like windows, there was included bloat, although it was first party stuff, stocks and other stuff. Okay not much cleaner than a windows machine you get off the shelf (well maybe a little since those windows machines have vender and likely 3rd party junk included).

I noted affinity photo was installed on the demo MBP so I launched it. Took a little second or two to open. Was lost, but haven't used the program at all. I did manage to locate a picture somewhere on the machine open it and tried to mess with it. It was okay I suppose.

The whole look over was just okay I suppose. Was trying to figure out where that price tag goes. They didn't have any other apple laptops to demo, not even a lowly base model air. I suppose I could get away with 512. The card reader was a nice addition since my cameras use SD cards (yes they are ancient now). Not sure on the USB ports, but at least 2 would likely be reserved, 1 for charging and other for external drives. I'd definitely want external drives and perhaps even just work off an external drive which would tether the laptop to the desktop.

I think if I went the M1 digital darkroom I'd have to fork out at least 1k (mini), or if the 14" MBP I looked at, probably closer to 3k. Um, okay I suppose. Thing looks a little fragile. Not sure if apple nags like windows 10 saas model does (hey, windows comes with windows defender but the OEM opted to disable it and toss in Norton free for 30 days, please continue and buy a subscription! Ugh! :mad:)

Maybe the more intelligent idea would be to just dump photography? Or just get discouraged by my round about work flow on Linux? I think dark table did get an update to read those problematic .cr3 files but I find that software clunky and unintuitive.
 

bousozoku

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For quite a while, I was doing just fine with Capture One Pro on a mid-2012 3rd generation quad-core i7 with 16 GB of RAM and 1 TB of storage. I tried it on a 2018 Omen by HP with 7th generation quad-core i7 with 32 GB of RAM and 2 TB of storage. There wasn't much difference. I'm now working on a 2020 M1 MacBook Air with 16 GB and 1 TB, and it's surprisingly good.

Capture One Pro is native and I also have Affinity Photo and Luminar AI, both of which are native.

I should probably retrieve one of my basketball sessions with 1000+ photos to see how well it works, but it's already showing me that it's much faster. Considering that I wasn't having a problem previously, I didn't expect to have a problem, except with compatibility.

I invested in a US$34.99 USB type-C hub with USB type-A ports, an HDMI port, and an SD Card slot. I'm just not sure that I want to invest in a Thunderbolt dock at this time.
 
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ADGrant

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-For a beginner or modest use, Photos is not bad at all - way better than it's given credit. Over time they've improved it and integrated more of the heart of Aperture* (which I adored and I'm still livid apple dropped it). To be clear: I couldn't use Photos for my main stuff but ... it's decent. It's usable, it's gotten better, and could serve someone at a basic level pretty well. I'd have no hesitation recommending someone use Photos while they start with photo editing on a mac and until they've had a chance to try other editing programs and figure out what works for them. (And if it turns out Photos meets their needs, all the better). [Please don't @ me with things missing/wrong in Photos - I'm not claiming it's great or has all the features - but it is accessible and serviceable and included with the MacOS.]
The Photos app does integrate with other editing apps such as Pixelmator pro which is useful. Also useful is its integration across the Apple Ecosystem. For handling photos and videos shot on an iPhone, it is very convenient.
 

hobowankenobi

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I'm now working on a 2020 MacBook Air with 16 GB and 1 TB, and it's surprisingly good.

Is this an i3? If so, wait until you try an M1. I support a photo lab with about six M1 Macs w/16GB of ram running CaptureOne for tethered shooting, and the performance is really good, especially compared to previous iMacs with i5 CPU, 16GB Ram, and SSDs.

Similar setup with a USB C (3.1) hub powering 3 meter USB tethered shooting. No issues, good performance.
 

bousozoku

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Is this an i3? If so, wait until you try an M1. I support a photo lab with about six M1 Macs w/16GB of ram running CaptureOne for tethered shooting, and the performance is really good, especially compared to previous iMacs with i5 CPU, 16GB Ram, and SSDs.

Similar setup with a USB C (3.1) hub powering 3 meter USB tethered shooting. No issues, good performance.
Sorry. I forgot to add M1 to MacBook Air. I wouldn't have dared to waste my money on an i3. I considered a quad-core i5 at one point, but Intel had no "leap forward" CPUs, so I didn't bother.
 
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MajorFubar

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Welp, I'm back to my circular thinking again with this idea with the thoughts popping back in to go back into the mainstream for computing even though I don't really like where that stream is heading...

Anyway got to look at an actual 14" M1 MacBook pro today, the 2k 512gb model. Spent a little time with it. The 2k price already sticker shocking me. Can't really see what 2 grand offers. Might just being cheap I don't know. Screen did look good. Didn't mess with the keyboard but I understand they are better than the butterfly's. Notch? Meh.

Found the programs and the second thing I noticed and realized after the 2k price was, like windows, there was included bloat, although it was first party stuff, stocks and other stuff. Okay not much cleaner than a windows machine you get off the shelf (well maybe a little since those windows machines have vender and likely 3rd party junk included).
Price buys you:

1) Build. Probably the best in the world at any price.
2) Keyboard. Very good for a laptop.
3) Multi-gesture trackpad. Best in the world. Windows doesn't compete in terms of functionality (e.g.: three-finger drag on MacOS is game-changing), and no Windows laptop has a trackpad that feels as good.
4) Screen. Probably the best on a laptop at any price.
5) Speakers. Best in the world for a laptop of that size.
6) Battery life. One of the best in the world at any price.
7) Cool, efficient microprocessor which doesn't double as a space heater with the fans blasting away like jet engines to stop it overheating as soon as you do something more taxing than watch YouTube.
8) Lack of bloat: bloatware on Windows is all the 'demos' and 'lite' versions of apps on there to entice you to buy the full version. MacOS might include apps you personally don't need but I wouldn't class them as bloat. What's bloat to you could be one of the things someone else actually buys it for. Like GarageBand.
9) Support. Buy a laptop running Monterey and likely you'll get OS upgrades and security updates for the best part of ten years. There's a whole host of recent Windows laptops out there can't even run Windows 11, and Windows 10 extended support ends in 2025.
10) Close integration with iOS such as reading and writing txt's, making phone calls and video calls, straight from your laptop.

EDIT: BTW I'm no Apple fanboi, browse through my other posts and you'll see I'm happy to kick Apple in the bollox when I think they deserve it. But currently no other laptop on the market offers the complete deal offered by a 14" and 16" MBP.
 
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