How much of a noticeable upgrade is it from the 2017 12.9?
I'm debating replacing mine with a 2021 device, just undecided if I'm going 11 or 12.9, I want a device with smaller bezels and would like to upgrade to Face ID too
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iPad Pro M1 iPad Pro 11 First Impressions
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I'm debating replacing mine with a 2021 device, just undecided if I'm going 11 or 12.9, I want a device with smaller bezels and would like to upgrade to Face ID too
it’s still fundamentally an iPad. Haven’t put it through its paces but I like the new design Since this is my first crack at it
and m1 is crazy overpowered for iOS. Lol
i know bc i have an m1 air also
Disclaimer: I am coming from a 2014 IPad Air 2, that traveled with me all over the world and was completely free of any major problems.
However,it was time to upgrade and so I did.
WOW! What difference in the screen and the speed, its like night and day. I had high expectations and it surpassed them all.
However,it was time to upgrade and so I did.
WOW! What difference in the screen and the speed, its like night and day. I had high expectations and it surpassed them all.
Yep, had the same reaction myself, screen is amazing.
Isn't it amazing when people don't listen to this blooming nonsense and check out the device for themselves in person, I can't go back to the previous model display, loving these deep blacks, extra contrast and crisp pure whites.
Yup, the more I use my 12.9 the more I am blown away by the display vs the 2018 model . Been doing lots of video editing on it since grabbing footage at the weekend, loving it.
Update: I ended up pulling The trigger and get myself the 11 inch. So far Face ID seems to be working really well. So much easier for me than touchID actually.
Have you tried setting it up again?Maybe your first time set up add some lighting issues or something?
Just traded in my 2017 12.9 after a day with the 11 M1
think this is the one!
If my 12.9 2020 ever ships I’ll give it a fair shake but I may just resell it for some extra coin
i don’t think I can part with my 11
it’s good enough for video watching , is awesome with Smart Keyboard (I kinda like the size difference vs my air), and as a tablet it’s great
plus the MKB with 12.9 may be more heft than I want. It’ll be 0.8 lbs heavier (1 vs 1.5 for tablet, then 1.3 vs 1.6 for keyboard)
think this is the one!
If my 12.9 2020 ever ships I’ll give it a fair shake but I may just resell it for some extra coin
i don’t think I can part with my 11
it’s good enough for video watching , is awesome with Smart Keyboard (I kinda like the size difference vs my air), and as a tablet it’s great
plus the MKB with 12.9 may be more heft than I want. It’ll be 0.8 lbs heavier (1 vs 1.5 for tablet, then 1.3 vs 1.6 for keyboard)
I just upgraded from my 10.5” iPad Pro and I’m pretty happy.
-The screen seems much larger. Hard to believe that half an inch feels bigger.
-The battery seems to last much longer than my 10.5. I was getting 5-6 hrs on that. That’s the main reason I upgraded. This new iPad Pro really does go 10 hrs or more.
-Charging the Apple Pencil on the side is SO MUCH nicer.
But contrary to others, I don’t feel any real speed increase. I mean just opening and closing apps, surfing the web, etc is all pretty fast on the 2017 iPad Pro with A10X. If the battery life wasn’t so bad, I never would’ve upgraded.
-The screen seems much larger. Hard to believe that half an inch feels bigger.
-The battery seems to last much longer than my 10.5. I was getting 5-6 hrs on that. That’s the main reason I upgraded. This new iPad Pro really does go 10 hrs or more.
-Charging the Apple Pencil on the side is SO MUCH nicer.
But contrary to others, I don’t feel any real speed increase. I mean just opening and closing apps, surfing the web, etc is all pretty fast on the 2017 iPad Pro with A10X. If the battery life wasn’t so bad, I never would’ve upgraded.
how well 4 year old iPads still work is a testament to iPad longevity. It’s awesome
While I didn’t buy the 11” 2021 with hopes that WWDC around the bend is going to magically transform the device, I do think over the course of several years this thing will be fully unleashed in some capacity. How, I dont know, but I do believe its just getting started. I think iPad 1 shipped with iOS 3.2,
I recall iPad Pro 2017 shipped with 10.3 or something, right before iOS 11 that was more tablet oriented I believe. Could be mixing things up, but iPads often ship with a late version iOS just before new features roll in.
i think this longevity is general is part of why Apple realizes people are cool to not upgrade every year or so, most people, so therefore they jack the price up knowing they aren’t going to collect as ofTen.
Ah yeah, WWDC was in the back of my mind when I upgraded. I’ll be shocked if there aren’t iPadOS 15 features that ONLY work on M1 iPads.
The revolution has already begun, it’s only going to get better at WWDC ? bookmark this post. ?
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And this longevity is exactly why I finally capitulated on the pricing for 1TB cellular. I don't think Apple will be lowering their MSRP anytime soon and deals on brand new cellular models have been harder to come by. I used to spend $800-1200 per year upgrading iPads (mostly for higher storage, sometimes for display). Annual cost for the 2021 is around the same as long as I keep it at least 2 years which should be very easy to do. Indeed, the 2021's hardware is at the level where I pretty much have everything I want that I don't see myself upgrading short of hardware failure or new standards (e.g. support for new codec replacing HEVC/AV1).
I've actually disabled ProMotion on my M1 12.9. Seems to greatly help reduce my headache.
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That makes sense — the OS works on all iPads but certain features are unlocked on M-series iPads, and maybe certain apps only function on them as well. This happens on desktops — why not iPads?
I upgraded from my 2018 11 inch 256GB IPP to the M1 11 inch 256GB version. The first thing I checked was the display…for color temperature differences. At first I thought “Ah oh”…the M1 has a warmer yellowish cast. But as I spent some time comparing both…I think it’s more that my 2018 had a more blueish tint….and the M1 was more accurate (to my eye). Long story short….very happy with the display on the M1.
Honestly, as of right now, the only real difference I can “sense” is slightly faster opening of apps with the M1 and louder speakers….which was greatly appreciated. I find the M1 noticeably louder.
Does anyone else think that the 2022 M version IPP will get the Mini LCD display and we’ll be kicking ourselves for getting the 2021 version?
My guess would be the 11" gets mini led or is discontinued and the Air takes its place with OLED. This year Apple definitely want buyers to go up to the 12.9".
I think it’s highly likely, but then again with all the angst over blooming on the 12.9, a lot of people may very well be glad they got the 2021!
Would be more regrets over buying the 11” from those that had the 2018 or 2020 11”, no difference really.
It will be interesting to see what happens in 2022 for sure with the 11 inch. Now I’ve just gotta sell my 256GB 2018 11 inch (WiFi) IPP, which I got new at MicroCenter in Atlanta in May 2020 at a fantastic deal of $535. It’s got 1 year of AppleCare left on it…so that will help. MicroCenter had the deal this yr too on the M1 11 inch 256GB (WiFi) version: $829. Oh yeah..forgot to mention. The cameras on the M1 are a major upgrade over my 2018. Not that I use the cameras that much on an iPad…but now I don’t have to reach for my iPhone for a pic if I’ve got the iPad in my hand.
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Maybe not even 2022 version. Ya. Probably some kind of change and see what happens with air. If really wanted to upgrade next release could sell or trade and might not be much loss.
That's pretty much why I'm trying to resist updating my 2018 iPad Pro 11.
M1 sounds great but you run into the limitations of iPad OS so on a day to day usage apps might open slightly faster but it doesn't seem worth it if that's the only tangible difference. Camera's and sightly improved screen quality are nice but not that important to me. However if over time you notice more improvements and genuinely think it's worth the upgrade feel free to keep posting in here your observations.
I'm coming at the 11” 2021 M1 at a bit sideways from you upgrading from a iPP 10.5”. I found the 2021’s display at bit warm with true tone on (good for reading), so turned it off and it becomes a clean white (photos, movies). Brightness is basically the same, which is very good. Speakers are much louder, with a balanced sound. I'm actually surprised how good they are, but if I'm sitting at home I'm glad I have a HomePod. It's noticeably faster in response in every way, and the apps/tabs don't refresh or clear out with all this RAM.
I really had a hard time passing on 12.9” only for the mini-LED, and also wondering about going with this year's 11” with the thought that next year the 11” may get the same. But, in the end as the saying goes... Get what you need now. This display is beautiful, and ghosting issues or not on the 12.9”, this LED is proven tech that will last. The only thing missing is with HDR content and ‘the blacks.’ It's almost funny how I now look for that not quite black-black, and then find it’s not really important. The way I look at this (no pun;’), in 2-4+ years when I upgrade again, the screen technology will have been refined or to something newer and better again. In the meantime, I still have the form factor that works for me best.
The other improvements that don't get so much attention besides the cameras, and combined with Center Stage; the microphones are really good for just straight recording and with movies. I've been doing some nature sounds at the beach, fields, and mountains around where I live (not just in a room). Also thunderbolt is very welcome with my portable SSD, and may prove an even bigger upgrade with WWDC next week (true full size external display use?). Overall, coming from a 10.5” I wasn't sure I really needed this, but now I'm getting more comfortable with my decision and happy I jumped for a Pro 11” silver 512gb, and with an Apple Pencil for the first time. Along with an Apple folio case (to carry in, and set up with) and external magic keyboard when I need it, this is perfect for my personal use, and some work when I need it for that.