M1 Mac Wifi ONLY 2x2!!! Seriously thinking of returning

[Chompineer]

AFAIK there are no production AX 3x3 or 4x4 options, 2x2 is as good as it gets (which still smokes 3x3 AC).

I get 1000mbps down on my Intel AX201 2x2 using 160Mhz, and that's just external traffic. Internal I get about 2gbps.

The real crime is Apple's chipset does not utilize 160Mhz, it can only do 80.

 

[wit3k]

Realy i don’t know why You guys is so angry. Even if it is 2x2 it’s do it with ax. Filetransfer is no Gbps, but not crap. I can get easy 80MB/s
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[twlemons]

Because the M1 Mini only has Gigabit Ethernet, but people want higher speeds?

You will never get above 900mbps on wifi without AX. Wired is always faster. Wifi up to AC is half-duplex. The router is only able to respond to 1 request at a time. Slowest device sets the speed for all. AX can do up to 6 transmissions at one time.

 

[Bacci]

Apple is not likely going to implement more than 2 antennas on its entry level Macs, nor on any of its iPhones.
We're really just waiting for Apple to move to Wi-Fi 6E.
The 6Ghz spectrum has 7 juicy 160Mhz bands.
I hope the much anticipated rimless 14" MB will have it, at which time hopefully there are some good price/quality Wi-Fi 6E mesh system options available too to match.

 

[devguy]

The entry level Macs have ALWAYS only supported 2x2 Mimo.

The Macbook Air, the entry level Mac mini, the MacBook Pro 13", the MacBook - all 2x2 Mimo.

Larger MacBook Pro and desktops are the only systems to have 3x3 Mimo.

>Macbook Pro
>Entry level

 

[dannys1]

>Macbook Pro
>Entry level

Yes - the lower spec of the 2 13" MBP's is entry level price and performance - you're saying it should be an entry level product because of the word...."pro"?? It's slight more expensive than the MacBook Air, it's slightly better performing - there will be a better performing 14" MBP and then an even better performing 16" MBP. Guess what Pro's don't have to use any of them. Give up with the obsession of a word in a title, it hasn't meant anything for decades.

 

[thatsthequy]

AFAIK there are no production AX 3x3 or 4x4 options, 2x2 is as good as it gets (which still smokes 3x3 AC).

I get 1000mbps down on my Intel AX201 2x2 using 160Mhz, and that's just external traffic. Internal I get about 2gbps.

The real crime is Apple's chipset does not utilize 160Mhz, it can only do 80.

Is that the real crime? Or is it that Apple is still using Broadcom wireless chipsets in its products?

Using 160Mhz should be a crime though, hopefully you don't get DFS strikes in your area very often.

 

[Mr Dobey]

Current transmit rates while all 3 machines are in front of me:
iMac M1: 1200 Mb/s 802.11ax
MacBook Air M1: 960 Mb/s 802.11ax
16" MacBook Pro: 780 Mb/s 802.11ac

and for the record the new M1 Mac mini is now available with 10 Gigabit Ethernet.

For the curious: this is what transferring a 50GB folder looks like between two 802.11ax Macs on ethernet vs. WiFi. Throughput is far from consistent with WiFi.

 

[cbuckely]

I’m getting 1200Mbps on an 80MHz channel from my M1 MacBook Air running on a Wi-Fi 6 router.

Curious what router you use for wifi. I have tried several routers and can't get my 2021 14" MacBook Pro to get anywhere near 1200

 

[AlexJoda]

Curious what router you use for wifi. I have tried several routers and can't get my 2021 14" MacBook Pro to get anywhere near 1200

Looks like with the 2023 MBPs this works:

 

[Pressure]

Curious what router you use for wifi. I have tried several routers and can't get my 2021 14" MacBook Pro to get anywhere near 1200

Did you configure your Access Point properly for Macs?