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derptron

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Well I think we come from two different legal backgrounds. Where I live, there is a saying in latin: pacta sunt servanda which in English means that contracts must be kept.
The contract is, I pay a lot of money, Apple gives me a flawless new machine with the properties as advertised. Scratches were not advertised. So they did not fulfill the contract (but I kept the contract, they have my money).
According to our law they now have three options, they can either give a full refund or repair it or replace it. However, all three must be done in a reasonable amount of time, not when they like to. As far as I know courts here see two weeks as a reasonable amount of time. So I expect the problem to be solved in two weeks max.
If that’s not possible due to the pandemic or other reasons they should at least be so customer-friendly as to let me use the device I have until a new unit is ready.
And the fact that my order came in earlier of course entitles me to have my contract fulfilled earlier. That’s the whole point of the order queue and the idea of first come first served.
Not worth feeding the troll. Apple should be keeping a small supply back for replacements if needed. Have you tried a physical store? I had to get my 2016 MacBook replaced a week after launch as the screen cable failed (bad luck I guess) and the manager at the store said they keep a small amount of replacement stock on hand, though not typically for BTO models. In my case back then they just took a brand new retail one out of the box and swapped it over for me. It does feel dependent on the store itself though, not all of them are good experiences.
 

DonHS

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Not worth feeding the troll. Apple should be keeping a small supply back for replacements if needed. Have you tried a physical store? I had to get my 2016 MacBook replaced a week after launch as the screen cable failed (bad luck I guess) and the manager at the store said they keep a small amount of replacement stock on hand, though not typically for BTO models. In my case back then they just took a brand new retail one out of the box and swapped it over for me. It does feel dependent on the store itself though, not all of them are good experiences.
No I haven’t tried a local store here, because the lady on the phone when I explained the problem said that the stores wouldn’t have my model. It is not the base model but one with 64 gigs of ram and a bigger ssd. However I can try and call the stores tomorrow (I have two stores here that are easily reachable for me).
 
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derptron

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No I haven’t tried a local store here, because the lady on the phone when I explained the problem said that the stores won’t have my model. It is not the base model but one with 64 gigs of ram and a bigger ssd. However I can try and call the stores tomorrow (I have two stores here that are easily reachable for me).
Ah right yeah with it being a BTO model it might be a long shot. It’s worth asking though. When I later had to get mine replaced due to the failed keyboard issue (stuck keys due to the butterfly mech) they just replaced it with a top end 2018 (maybe 2019, can’t remember) model. Again that was because they didn’t stock a matching model to mine, so offered it as a free upgrade.

Good luck!
 

randomgeeza

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Well I think we come from two different legal backgrounds. Where I live, there is a saying in latin: pacta sunt servanda which in English means that contracts must be kept.
The contract is, I pay a lot of money, Apple gives me a flawless new machine with the properties as advertised. Scratches were not advertised. So they did not fulfill the contract (but I kept the contract, they have my money).
According to our law they now have three options, they can either give a full refund or repair it or replace it. However, all three must be done in a reasonable amount of time, not when they like to. As far as I know courts here see two weeks as a reasonable amount of time. So I expect the problem to be solved in two weeks max.
If that’s not possible due to the pandemic or other reasons they should at least be so customer-friendly as to let me use the device I have until a new unit is ready.
And the fact that my order came in earlier of course entitles me to have my contract fulfilled earlier. That’s the whole point of the order queue and the idea of first come first served.
Depending on which country you are in. With my situation and the Executive Liaison mediating at Apple. From the start of the situation to the day it ended, was almost 6 months.
 

MaximTV

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Fortunately I was able to remove most of the scratches (two on the lid, two on two corners) using toothpaste. :)

Now there's only this left:
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Hoyboy

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Just in case anyone was interested I received my replacement MacBook Pro last week and it was perfect. So if anyone buys one and it's damaged out of the box and you're not happy with it, return it.
 

Miltz

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When I got mine, I thought it was scratch too, but I used a microfiber towel and clean screen spray and it came right out. I think they are marks from shipping since the package is so hard and the film is thin.
 
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ASX

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This macbook pros have awful quality control in terms of optical or cosmetic defects.

I unboxed yesterday a mbp 2021 16.2" m1 max. It had a mark on the bottom, like you used a nail and hammered it one time, a scratch on the display housing, some black points and sratches beside the mac book pro logo on the bottom. There were also minor abrasions on the side.




Todays macbook pro 16.2 inch m1 pro has marks at the bottom at the border of the unibody and bottom leaf, also this black tiny points beside the macbook pro logo on the bottom. In addition damaged paint at the top of the black blende below the display. It looks like a white line at the edge, directly below the display. You can't clean it, it's definetly damaged color. In addtion some minor abrasions and a greyer long line on the space key. Looks like abrasion. It has also a bad alligned black strip at the hinge which is looking like a wave. Very common for this mbp pros 2021. Mostly not avoidable.

Example:


I have not seen one mbp 2021 without any cosmetic defect. The minimum were some vertical scratches and some minor abrasions on the sides.

I advice you to push every key for multiple times. I have seen mbp 2021 14" with around 8 chattering keys with very low resistance. For 16.2" it was mostly the enter key which had pretty bad resistance.
 
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RPhoto

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My BTO 16 arrived today and just noticed in very specific lighting, and at the right angle, there is a scratch on the front side of the screen/lid.

It’s invisible in almost all lighting but when the light catches it right it’s very visible.

I won’t be returning though. It’s going to travel with me so it seems a huge waste to send it back, only to get another one that I’ll end up marking myself over time. I do understand the principle of it though.
 
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VaruLV

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Try to rub it out with your finger, it might be some dirt from factory or much lighter scratch than it really looks at the moment.
 
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spiderman0616

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I know Apple probably wouldn't do it, but having worked at a Automotive Paint Manufacturer it would simpler be easier to buff the scratch and put some touch-up paint on it. Having looked at the picture and even though I can't tell for sure, it wouldn't surprise me if simply buffing the area would do the trick?
Attempting this on anodized aluminum would result in looking far worse than the original scratch and would just end up in regret. This isn't just a thin candy shell of cheap paint on top of bare metal like a Tesla or brushed metal--it's actually part of the metal.
 

RPhoto

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Try to rub it out with your finger, it might be some dirt from factory or much lighter scratch than it really looks at the moment.
Tried but no luck
I didn’t notice any such damage on mine when I unboxed it. I’ve just been using it. I guess I better go inspect it.
Nor me until I went to pick it up off the table, with a lamp shining on it at the perfect angle to make it visible.
 

RPhoto

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Can you liver with it? I wouldn't mind seeing as it's in a spot you'll hardly be looking at anyways.
Yep absolutely. As per original post I’m not sending it back. Seems a waste of energy time and a machine, as it’ll get knocked about a bit during its life with me anyway (travel a fair bit).
 
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hajime

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Received a new M2 Pro MacBook Pro 16". Several scratches or they did a poor paint job at the corner right out of the box. What is wrong with Apple? They used to have very good QC. Over the past two years, I got two MacBook Pro with such issue.
 

Miltz

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Received a new M2 Pro MacBook Pro 16". Several scratches or they did a poor paint job at the corner right out of the box. What is wrong with Apple? They used to have very good QC. Over the past two years, I got two MacBook Pro with such issue.
Did you try cleaning it with alcohol? It’s from the paper.
 
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