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MacBook Pro guide for me: don’t buy until they come up with a laptop without legacy ports, notch, with a good keyboard an thinner. Price is not a problem if it is fair, carrying a sd port and hdmi in 2023 is plain dumb.
I use both all the time. Dumping footage from shoots almost everyday using the SD port. Please keep it
 
I'm still happy with my 14" M1 Pro, and I plan to be for 3-4 more years at least! It does everything I need it to, and more. Until the revamp the design or make the screen better, I plan to stick with my OG.
Same here. And same with my other M-based machines. No compelling reasons to upgrade these amazing devices. Now on the same 4-5 cycle as I am w/ my iPhone.
 
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Sweet! I have a 2019 MBP and I can feel its age. Been waiting for this release. Going M2 Max and 64GB of RAM
good choice - I also got a 4TB, 64GB 14inch MBPro as an upgrade to my similar configured 16inch M1-Max
 
Still looking for the right replacement for my 2020 M1 13" which I stupidly bought with too little memory and a drive that's too small (I really need at least 16GB because I'm forced to use Office apps, and 1TB so I don't have to use Onedrive's awful search anymore and just keep my entire archive on my machine). The M1 CPU is almost always more than fast enough for me (maybe once a month I'll run into something that could use a little more speed).

I had almost decided on the 15" Air because the 14" Pro has a smaller screen and is a little heavier, and a lot more expensive. But with the new 14" M3, it's back to the drawing board... and I think I'd prefer the better screen, speakers, camera, and extra ports. The price difference is down to about €200 here in Europe.

Paradoxically, though, my Macbook spends most of its time closed with an external screen and camera on my desk. So I'm mostly looking at the difference while travelling, which is once every two months or so, and then it's really 15" and slightly lighter vs. 14" and slightly heavier. So I'm still undecided.
because of that I moved from 16 to 14 - better portability and equivalent while docked
 
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IMO, anyone looking at the M3 MBP or M3 Pro MBP, is better off getting an Apple refurb M2 Pro MBP for $1600 instead.

comparing between M3 and M2 Pro macbooks, you get 16gb ram and the same computer with a better cpu for the same price

comparing between the M3 Pro and M2 Pro macbooks, you get basically the same performance but 2gb less ram for $400 off.
 
The only improvement I want over my 14" M1 Pro is getting rid of the bluish/purple tint as the sides of the screen.
 
I'm still happy with my 14" M1 Pro, and I plan to be for 3-4 more years at least! It does everything I need it to, and more. Until the revamp the design or make the screen better, I plan to stick with my OG.
Last year I bought a 14" M1 Pro MBP to replace my 2012 MBP that I bring to the office everyday. However, I find myself leaving the M1 Pro connected at home and still bringing the 2012 to work, in part because it has Boot Camp and and Windows emulation on my M1 Pro isn't great. The 2012 is too slow now for my Xcode and I'd like to just give it to someone in the family who just wants to do simple tasks (web surfing, etc.).

Anyway, I'm currently torn between (1) buying an M2 MBA to be my daily bring-along and leaving the M1 Pro at home or (2) buying an M2 Mac mini for my home setup and bring the M1 Pro MBP to work everyday.
 
Up-to 40% improved performance is a massive productivity boost that will easily pay everyone to upgrade.

That's a misread, I think.

The M2 has that increase from the M1. The M3 adds another 15%.

The problem with that number is we know the M1 to M2 wasn't 40% faster.

I suspect the side by side benchmarks are going to confuse things even more, that the M3 is a great chip but knowing Apple, it will lag behind the M1 in some tasks or something annoying just to drive us crazy.
 
Imagine if they actually released the 13 with the touch bar, new screen, AND a function row. We would have been talking down all the other macbooks at this point for being too bulky and old looking .
 
Good article comparing the various models. Seems like there is no need to upgrade from M1/M2 Pro/Max to the latest MacBook Pros
 
For computers it's almost never worth it to upgrade a single generation unless there's something specific you need like more RAM or storage that your current machine lacks. If you're on an M1 Pro or Max system today you likely won't see a noticeable increase in real-world performance (to justify the price of a new machine) until we hit the M4 or M5 generation.
They could be M3000 generation, and I still wouldn't get any real world performance improvement for my workload.

I do get real world benefit from each iteration's battery life improvement though.

And I wish Apple would put out a variation that put 100% of the improvement into exactly that. Instead of improving performance by 20%, and efficiency by 20%, I wish they'd put out a chip with 0% performance, and 40% efficiency improvement. And yep, they could actually more or less do that, e.g. by reducing the clock speed (instead of increasing it, which they have been doing), etc.
 
I thought "I can wait; my last laptop lasted seven years. My current one is only two years old" but then I forgot about COVID. My machine is really four years old (last of the Intels). Now the M2Pro vs M3 info is very relevant. Not sure about stepping down in RAM though.
 
Great comparison table. It succinctly distills down all the most important differences that could affect someone deciding between these models. Would love to also include the MacBook Air (perhaps in a separate / optional chart in case it looks cluttered). I was looking long and hard between an upgraded MBA and a 14" MBP and it was a little tricky going back-and-forth between specs pages and trying to decipher all the nuances.

What is the discrepancy in memory bandwidth between M1/M2 Pro and M3 Pro? Why is it half the bandwidth?

Did you notice that going from the M1 MacBook Pro (14" and 16") to the M2 and M3, the memory bandwidth actually drops quite a bit, from 200GB/sec to 150 GB/sec. I wondered if this was a typo?

It's no typo. The best speculation I've seen is that Apple has changed the width of its memory bus from 256bit to 192bit. This allows the multiple-of-six and multiple-of-nine RAM quantity (instead of the more typical multiple-of-eight), but also changes the total bandwidth. Will be interesting to see what the performance benchmarks say when they come out.

Apple will start losing serious money because of their nonsensical specs and pricing. Two days after the event delivery dates are still Nov 7 for everything except the Max ones.
Friday night (Apple time) and almost all configs of the 14" (and some of the 16") are still showing November 7th delivery! Either they built up quite a big launch supply or people are not rushing to purchase the 14". :/
 
Great comparison table. It succinctly distills down all the most important differences that could affect someone deciding between these models. Would love to also include the MacBook Air (perhaps in a separate / optional chart in case it looks cluttered). I was looking long and hard between an upgraded MBA and a 14" MBP and it was a little tricky going back-and-forth between specs pages and trying to decipher all the nuances.





It's no typo. The best speculation I've seen is that Apple has changed the width of its memory bus from 256bit to 192bit. This allows the multiple-of-six and multiple-of-nine RAM quantity (instead of the more typical multiple-of-eight), but also changes the total bandwidth. Will be interesting to see what the performance benchmarks say when they come out.


Friday night (Apple time) and almost all configs of the 14" (and some of the 16") are still showing November 7th delivery! Either they built up quite a big launch supply or people are not rushing to purchase the 14". :/
I think the most exciting thing about the M3 MacBook Pros is the Space Black. All else is very iterative at this point. Real world benchmarks may tell a different story so I am reserving judgement pending what people see when they show up and compare. I am very interested in the 14” MacBook Pro in Space Black.
 
I have to do the accounting for my small business using quickbooks. Will this new Mac make my accounting work go 40% faster once I login to Intuit online? How so? I am not sure there is any benefit at all compared to my 2015 MacBook Pro 15 (A1398). I doubt my email or YouTube videos would go any faster. If they do, my eyes are too old to keep up. Will music sound 40% better on iTunes/Apple Music?

It is ironic that Apple wants customers to upgrade their hardware every year. But they contrarily want to turn it into a licensed machine vs owned by locking it into iCloud and turning off you iPhone apps if you dont' keep a live payment option turned on for them to hit whenever.

They want to force customers and partners into their walled garden App Store and make a much as possible SAAS so they can hold your data hostage for payment. But, SAAS / online internet model negates the point of faster and faster computing platforms doesn't it?

The Retina models were peak Apple IMHO. No one wants to talk about the dark years of dongles, butterfly keyboards, touch tapes, T2 and soldered in failed SSDs from 2016-2020...lol. Suddenly they discovered MagSafe, HDMI and SD cards again... brilliant!
 
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I have to do the accounting for my small business using quickbooks. Will this new Mac make my accounting work go 40% faster once I login to Intuit online? How so? I am not sure there is any benefit at all compared to my 2015 MacBook Pro 15 (A1398). I doubt my email or YouTube videos would go any faster. If they do, my eyes are too old to keep up. Will music sound 40% better on iTunes/Apple Music?

It is ironic that Apple wants customers to upgrade their hardware every year. But they contrarily want to turn it into a licensed machine vs owned by locking it into iCloud and turning off you iPhone apps if you dont' keep a live payment option turned on for them to hit whenever.

They want to force customers and partners into their walled garden App Store and make a much as possible SAAS so they can hold your data hostage for payment. But, SAAS / online internet model negates the point of faster and faster computing platforms doesn't it?

The Retina models were peak Apple IMHO. No one wants to talk about the dark years of dongles, butterfly keyboards, touch tapes, T2 and soldered in failed SSDs from 2016-2020...lol. Suddenly they discovered MagSafe, HDMI and SD cards again... brilliant!
You just answered your own question....
Just as a Lamborghini is not for everyone, a new Mac may not be for you if all you do is SAAS. If you were a power user, designer, video/music producer or gamer, then getting a new Mac would make world of a difference.
Apple doesn't want customers to upgrade every year, otherwise I would say the same about Auto Manufacturers just because they release new models every year.

iCloud storage is a convenient option for those who need it and know how to make the best out of it.
Updated payment information is convenient so I don't need to be worrying about manually paying for renewals or entering credit card information every time I need to buy an app or content. I value my time very much.

It looks like your whining has no direction... you are just throwing things to the wall and hoping someone sticks.

BTW: I'm running QB 2016 on a 2018 MBP running Sierra in a VM. Let's whine about Intuit forcing us to buy a new version of their software without bringing ANY valuable feature. Even if you run it on a supported OS, it will suddenly start to misbehave and show very odd glitches. And now they want to force their users to use their online version so they can milk our money away forever.
 
Memory section of M4 pro is wrong - it has up to 64GB ram...

M4: 16GB, 24GB, or 32GB unified memory
M4 Pro: 24GB or 48GB unified memory
M4 Max: 36GB, 48GB, 64GB, or 128GB unified memory

*edit - seems my coffee hasn't kick in, this is specific to laptops and is correct.
 
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