Me too. In fact, I have one currently being shipped.I would rather have M1 with 16GB ram than an M2 with 8GB ram.
Me too. In fact, I have one currently being shipped.I would rather have M1 with 16GB ram than an M2 with 8GB ram.
I know several very intense big name colleges where spelling is important at the professor level. To get a job on the faculty you will have to pass more than one written test before being hired. If you can't pass these tests, you don't get the job. If only we did the same thing for people who want to have a gun. After all, many would argue that making a mistake with a gun has much bigger consequence.I’d get 16 GB. If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?
So, I've been eagerly awaiting the new MacBook Air, and now the time is soon here.
But then comes the question of how much RAM to get? I'm a writer and mainly use web based apps for work (Google Docs, Arcweave, Google Drive) via Safari and Chrome, plus your general chat apps (Google Chats, Microsoft Teams, Discord, Facebook Messenger) and Spotify for my daily driving, plus streaming via YouTube or Netflix.
I don't really do any video editing, but some light image editing in Affinity when needed. The most demanding software I use is Logic, as I am a musician. I'm also hoping to be able to game some via CrossOver, though the only game I'm really gonna be running is GTA V (which I've seen run fine on 8GB M1 Airs), possibly Battlefield 1 if I can get it to work.
Technically it feels like 8GB shouldn't be an issue for me, but what makes me worried is that I had a late 2018 MacBook Air with 8GB and it had so many issues where it would bottleneck, both when editing in web apps and in Logic, where it had issues running drum machine plugins and it became close to impossible to make music… though the new M2 are miles ahead of even my current computer. I'm currently on a mid-2020 MacBook Pro 2.0 i7 with 16 GB, which runs fine most of the time, though it can get overloaded on very heavy Logic projects (but that's more on me for not bouncing enough when using a lot of plugins).
gta v last i check was pushing 80-90gb for install, BF1 is 40-50gb, you gonna need 512gb storage and 16gb ram to handle that load, at that price point, you might as well get the 14inch mbp base. if you live in the us amazon, walmart, costco have that 14 base for 1599.So, I've been eagerly awaiting the new MacBook Air, and now the time is soon here.
But then comes the question of how much RAM to get? I'm a writer and mainly use web based apps for work (Google Docs, Arcweave, Google Drive) via Safari and Chrome, plus your general chat apps (Google Chats, Microsoft Teams, Discord, Facebook Messenger) and Spotify for my daily driving, plus streaming via YouTube or Netflix.
I don't really do any video editing, but some light image editing in Affinity when needed. The most demanding software I use is Logic, as I am a musician. I'm also hoping to be able to game some via CrossOver, though the only game I'm really gonna be running is GTA V (which I've seen run fine on 8GB M1 Airs), possibly Battlefield 1 if I can get it to work.
Technically it feels like 8GB shouldn't be an issue for me, but what makes me worried is that I had a late 2018 MacBook Air with 8GB and it had so many issues where it would bottleneck, both when editing in web apps and in Logic, where it had issues running drum machine plugins and it became close to impossible to make music… though the new M2 are miles ahead of even my current computer. I'm currently on a mid-2020 MacBook Pro 2.0 i7 with 16 GB, which runs fine most of the time, though it can get overloaded on very heavy Logic projects (but that's more on me for not bouncing enough when using a lot of plugins).
Why not the 10-Core GPU?Most people would agree with me that the 8-Core GPU, 16GBs of RAM, and 512 GB SSD is the sweet spot for the M2 MacBook Air.
The slight increase in short term burst performance is not worth the extra cost, shorter battery life, and detrimental performance for tasks that aren’t over in a few minutes and the gpu has to throttle more than an 8-core would.Why not the 10-Core GPU?
The slight increase in short term burst performance is not worth the extra cost, shorter battery life, and detrimental performance for tasks that aren’t over in a few minutes and the gpu has to throttle more than an 8-core would.
Any links? Not maxtech. Anyone else? I saw one that tested with a game but the results were cherry picked when they stopped the test as soon as the FPS on the 10 core dropped below the 8 core. Instead they should have let it continue until both computers were heat soaked and then compared average FPS.This. Unfortunately the passive cooling system in the M2 Air isn’t a match for the extra heat the additional GPU cores make, the system ends up thermally soaked, and then throttling kicks in hard to counter that. The 8 core doesn’t get as hot out of the gate so the throttling is less severe, and the performance in long haul tasks becomes a wash. It’s been hashed out a lot over on YouTube with folks pitting the 8 and 10 core against each other. I was going to opt for the 10 core until I found out.
Any links? Not maxtech. Anyone else? I saw one that tested with a game but the results were cherry picked when they stopped the test as soon as the FPS on the 10 core dropped below the 8 core. Instead they should have let it continue until both computers were heat soaked and then compared average FPS.
Didn’t all their tests show that the 10 core GPU was faster than the 8 core? I have no problem with their conclusion that the 10 core wasn’t worth the cost but I don’t think they showed the 10 clots slower than the 8 core.Notebookcheck is the holy grail of technical reviews.
Apple MacBook Air M2 review - The faster 10-core GPU isn't worth it
Notebookcheck tests the new MacBook Air M2 with 16 GB of RAM, 1-TB SSD, and the faster 10-core GPU.www.notebookcheck.net
Didn’t all their tests show that the 10 core GPU was faster than the 8 core? I have no problem with their conclusion that the 10 core wasn’t worth the cost but I don’t think they showed the 10 clots slower than the 8 core.
I don’t trust maxtech on the M2.
Unless you are on Dosdude1's level you're likely not going to be able to upgrade storage on these devices as it is soldered.Storage can be upgraded, RAM cannot. the 16gb is worth the wait.
Well storage can be upgraded externally. You can't do that with RAM.Unless you are on Dosdude1's level you're likely not going to be able to upgrade storage on these devices as it is soldered.
Agreed for internal storage but you can always upgrade via external or cloud.Agree the 8-core(16GB/512GB) is the sweet-spot config.
Disagree that the 10-core is useless. Depends on what you do. Gaming, pretty small advantage. GPU compute, some workflows do their GPU tasks in forms of shorter bursts and feature no sustained load - notable advantage.
OP's use of Affinity could be a case of the latter, but since the work is described as "light" I'd say it's probably not worth it anyway.
Unless you are on Dosdude1's level you're likely not going to be able to upgrade storage on these devices as it is soldered.
Well storage can be upgraded externally. You can't do that with RAM.
I'd chosen the word "expand" rather than "upgrade" but sureAgreed for internal storage but you can always upgrade via external or cloud.
Annoyingly that seems to be the case I need it for graphic design and light rendering and it's super hard to justify the upgraded MBA, because the 14" would be significantly better in every metric except portability (which I don't even need that much). It's easier if you just don't need the power and can just get the default 8/256 MBA.Most people would agree with me that the 8-Core GPU, 16GBs of RAM, and 512 GB SSD is the sweet spot for the M2 MacBook Air.
lol be-careful, alot of mba owners in this section would take issue with that statement. some would even claim the mba speakers are "louder" and the screen on the mbp is inferior because it suffers from "blooming"because the 14" would be significantly better in every metric except portability
I'd probably go for the 16GB RAM model if you're looking for long term performance. The SSD speed differences will make much less of a difference than the RAM will (the SSD differences will matter less anyway when swap is not being used as much).Anw, will the SSD Speed on 256 GB version be enough for let’s say 7-8 years of usage?
I think considering your use case waiting for the 14" M2 would be the best idea. It should be considerably faster in gpu over the M1 MBP 14", have better battery life and be about 10-15% faster in CPU.Annoyingly that seems to be the case I need it for graphic design and light rendering and it's super hard to justify the upgraded MBA, because the 14" would be significantly better in every metric except portability (which I don't even need that much). It's easier if you just don't need the power and can just get the default 8/256 MBA.
In my case I'll probably just wait for the 14" M2.