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Digitalguy

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I have one. They are about the same but I do occasionally notice a palm input when I don’t want it but it is rare and the bezels are slimmer on the Samsung. Apple does a better job with palm rejection I will give you that.

Despite all the hate for Android and Samsung they offer a good product. They have always given me decent after sale support, Their products are good and generally last a long time, they give really good discounts and trade in value. Android has its ups and downs but so does iOS.

Nothing is perfect.
I have issues all the time with palm rejection. For me it's the main weak point of Samsung tablets. I find OneUI clearly superior to iPadOS and while the hardware is overall inferior (less CPU power, worse keyboard, more reflective screens, but in some, less important, hardware things they are as good or better) the value for money is generally as good or better than iPads given the discounts.
But palm rejection ruins it for me, it's not rare, it's constant, I can't watch a video without skipping back and forward all the time while holding the tablet to the point that I have to use an app that disable touch to watch a movie... It's that bad and it's the same with the S7+ (which I had and sold) the S7FE and the S8 ultra, which I both have.
Apparently Microsoft has the same issue, but I don't have a pro 8/X so I can't tell (my surface device have all large enough bezels, including the surface book).
PS I don't have fat hands, and I hardly ever have this issue with iPads
 
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macbequick

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I would love to see:
  • 14 in mini-led screen option
  • landscape orientation selfie cam
  • M2
  • more ram
  • maybe finally surprising us with professional software like Final Draft, for example.
  • don't care about wireless charging or cameras speced up to iPhone 14. I rarely if ever use my iPad camera for taking pictures.
Probably pipe dreams, but there it is.
 
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rachislenska

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And I hope some new colour other than the age old silver and space grey is introduced. The 2017 pro had a gold colour, so at least that!
just because it’s a pro device, it doesn’t mean it should be boring.
 
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slplss

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Expectations are that Apple will not only release M2 iPP, but also pro apps. Maybe center the camera on widescreen. I don't have any more ideas, the HW is perfect, they need to push more with SW.
 
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VaruLV

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Id be more interested in what final release of iPadOS 16 brings to the table, not that interested in hardware given how powerful-overpowered M1 has been for iPad Pro.
Looking forward to Stage Manager refinements, will see if it gets refined to be good enough for most.
 

Digitalguy

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Sometimes I wonder if people confuse wishes with (realistic) expectations. I think expectations should be based on something, even if it's just a rumor, while the rest is just wishes (I wish pro apps, I wish MacOS, I wish a better camera placement, I wish more RAM etc.)
 
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chevyboy60013

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I am still happy with my 10.5 iPad Pro, only reason I am thinking about getting a new one is the screen is cracked, other than that it is perfect, has the 256gb storage and still pretty much has all day battery life. if I actually spent the day doing my job with it maybe I would notice battery life getting shorter but typically I only put 5 to maybe 5.5 hours into the 8 hour work day. Get paid salary so the only way to make it worth doing the job is to provide only the minimum amount of time I can get away with after the past 2.5 years of forced mandates.
 

Ferc Kast

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The only thing I want is that they finally relocate the front facing camera. Eye contact in video calls is important especially in job interviews. Keeping the old camera would be a deal breaker for me.
That area is where the Apple Pencil charges, though. Also, I thought that was mitigated with last year's Center Stage feature? (I still have the 2020 Pro, so I haven't tested it myself.) Plus, some people use their iPad in portrait mode; so, moving the camera would be a deal breaker for them.
 

Menel

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Probably do something stupid like M2 and the new pointless 48mp camera.

When they would be fine leaving it on the M1, but upgrade the display to OLED, and give us WIFI 6e

:mad:
 

Lakersfan74

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I want a small screen near the rear camera system so I can see what I’m doing if I wanted to use the better of the cameras for selfies and such.
 

bscheffel

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What I expect:

-M2 processor
-Change of camera to landscape)
-Some form of wireless charging - your guess is as good as mine.
-New magic keyboard design to accommodate wireless charging.

What I want (in addition to the expected)

-Smaller bezel for at least 13.3" screen
-Magic keyboard design that is thinner and lighter, allows for tablet mode somehow, avoid my fingers hitting bottom of screen when typing numbers
-Better battery life
-TB4/USB4
 

Jonas07

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It will be X faster than the last generation and you gonna love it.

Translation: the same tablet with a powerful processor working on a trash software and probably struggling with keeping some windows opened by stage manager, and next year some other gimmick that only the latest iPad with the M2 can do, probably a 3D map of California with a weather projection.
 

Pezimak

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I think it will get:

M2
Same RAM options as current iPad Pro
Same storage options as currently
An improved camera some how.
Face ID maybe on the long edge instead of the short one?
WiFi 6E maybe

Not sure of anything else.
 

teh_hunterer

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In my opinion just a M2 cpu bump & camera won't be enough to justify this update.

I agree, and it's interesting to see what they come up with considering the corner they're in.

And I hope we don't see glass casing. Too much surface to scratch and break easily.

While it might be too heavy and impractical, I think something in the style of the iPhone Pro would be nice - frosted matte glass back with stainless steel side rails. If they made an iPad Pro in the exact style of the iPhone Pro Gold... I wouldn't be able to resist it.

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I have no idea what to expect. I really do think it's time for them to put macOS style experiences on the iPad Pro though. It makes sense for the iPhone to be as locked down as it is, but an iPad Pro... I think they could loosen it up a bit. The biggest thing is the fact that you can't get apps without touch screen support on the iPad, so no developer out there can easily port their professional apps (or games) to the iPad without having to figure out some kind of touch UI first. Most don't put in the effort to revamp their UI for the iPad, which means those apps are just missing.
 

teh_hunterer

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And I hope some new colour other than the age old silver and space grey is introduced. The 2017 pro had a gold colour, so at least that!
just because it’s a pro device, it doesn’t mean it should be boring.

Agreed. You can get the iPhone Pro in gold, purple, and previously in blues and green. Time to give the iPad Pro some variety.
 
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NastyMatt

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Have said (for ages) I wanted extended screen support, landscape camera and fully featured browser support.

Extended screen support will be here in iPadOS 16 (on M1 devices), if camera and browser support were released in the next IPP I would instantly upgrade.

Some nice to haves.. MK with function keys (including escape), portrait mode and low tilt (i.e. so can draw on it while docked). More functions on Apple pencil - maybe the option of one shaped like an actual pencil. OLED screen.
 

PlayUltimate

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For me to upgrade I would want to firstly see a landscape FaceTime camera, trivial I know but the amount of time my hand covers the camera for Face ID is really annoying, I wouldn't even mind it in the corner lol.
When I am holding the iPad 12.9 with two hands (landscape), far too often part of my hand is blocking the FaceID camera. Would be nice to have the camera moved for that reason as well.
Considering Apple's laptop replacement argument and Apple's magic keyboard both suggest landscaped usage, it is surprising that it has not been done already.
 
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Apleeseed84

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I’m curious to see what changes are for this year, you know, I bought an iPad as a kindle replacement because it’s more in size with magazine pages but because of the Magic Keyboard forcing me to use it horizontally I have been too focused on using my iPad as a laptop replacement that I have no idea what to expect or what direction Apple is trying to go with with the iPad pros, I mean I’m seriously contemplating just buying it to read books but it’s interesting for sure to see if a new Magic Keyboard would allow portrait mode without taking it off I guess
 

iPadified

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I would love to see:
  • 14 in mini-led screen option
  • landscape orientation selfie cam
  • M2
  • more ram
  • maybe finally surprising us with professional software like Final Draft, for example.
  • don't care about wireless charging or cameras speced up to iPhone 14. I rarely if ever use my iPad camera for taking pictures.
Probably pipe dreams, but there it is.
That is not a Pro, it is an iPad Studio;)!
 

Asiatic Black Hebrew

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For everyone saying smaller bezels, if the bezels get any smaller you won't have anywhere to hold the pad. It's already kind of an issue sometimes on the 12.9 inch.
 
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Digitalguy

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For everyone saying smaller bezels, if the bezels get any smaller you won't have anywhere to hold the pad. It's already kind of an issue sometimes on the 12.9 inch.
No, as I said above, you are already holding the iPad partly by the screen most of the time without realizing it, palm rejection works pretty well, issues are very rare, a smaller bezels won't change much if at all.
 

Greenmeenie

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I dunno. My 2018 11” iPad Pro still runs perfectly for all my photo & video editing as well as being the best digital sketchbook an artist could ever want. So i don’t need the speed of an M2. At least right now. The only thing that might make me upgrade would be if the 11” iPad Pro finally got the mini LED screen like the 12.9” iPad Pro. But rumor has it that it won’t again. So I guess I will be holding onto my 2018 version for another year or more. Fine by me.
 
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