Well "M2" is a marketing term so it can mean whatever the hell Apple wants it to mean.
Not trying to be mean to you...that's just the reality of it.
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M2 is really just m1.1 (Update, I was wrong).
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Not trying to be mean to you...that's just the reality of it.
That's the proper way. I have no idea why people need to upgrade every year to a new device. To each their own tho.
Apple follows the Tick-Tock model in which they focus on CPU followed by cache.
A12 and A14 - major uarch update
A13 and A15 - double system cache, E-core update
What is A15? It's a combination of N5P, clock bump, and big cache. You can't really expect M2 to have any major gains in performance when it's born from A15.
A12 and A14 - major uarch update
A13 and A15 - double system cache, E-core update
What is A15? It's a combination of N5P, clock bump, and big cache. You can't really expect M2 to have any major gains in performance when it's born from A15.
The M2 chip is undeniably much better than M1 because of the CPU clock speed and GPU core count. But the M2 generation? There's little to no IPC improvment, the CPU cores are only better because of clock speed, and the GPU cores perform about the same. It has all the hallmarks of an Intel "Xnm+" generation (or in the case of what we were seeing prior to Alder Lake, 14nm+++++).
Only could Apple make their second generation desktop class SOC and people are sitting around trying to argue it’s not a “real second generation“.
For better architectural deep dive into M2 differences look at the A15 deep dive anantech did
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For better architectural deep dive into M2 differences look at the A15 deep dive anantech did
The Apple A15 SoC Performance Review: Faster & More Efficient
Nobody ever questioned the naming A12, A13, A14 and so on, whether these were based on the same nm or not. So why is this a thing with the M series now?
A 20% improvement is significant. A car which last year could go 100km/h now has a top speed of 120km/h. I would call that significant. And if that improves by 20% again, it won’t be an additional 20 but 24km/h for the next generation, tipping at 144.
But of course, if you only ever need to go 100 km/h Max it won’t matter. Though, it would bring down your fuel consumption, because you can run the engine more relaxed.
Anyway, for most of the current M1 owners, their machines will be just as good as the M2, and I would not upgrade at this point. It will open apps just as fast, save files just as fast. You can’t have more screens connected etc.
I am still on Intel. The only thing I hesitate with is whether to go for an Air again (in which case I would choose the M2), or step up to one of the MacBooks with SD card slot, multi screen support etc. In which case I would wait for the M2 Max or Ultra
And then there is the option of a Mac studio and MacBook air combination 🤪
A 20% improvement is significant. A car which last year could go 100km/h now has a top speed of 120km/h. I would call that significant. And if that improves by 20% again, it won’t be an additional 20 but 24km/h for the next generation, tipping at 144.
But of course, if you only ever need to go 100 km/h Max it won’t matter. Though, it would bring down your fuel consumption, because you can run the engine more relaxed.
Anyway, for most of the current M1 owners, their machines will be just as good as the M2, and I would not upgrade at this point. It will open apps just as fast, save files just as fast. You can’t have more screens connected etc.
I am still on Intel. The only thing I hesitate with is whether to go for an Air again (in which case I would choose the M2), or step up to one of the MacBooks with SD card slot, multi screen support etc. In which case I would wait for the M2 Max or Ultra
And then there is the option of a Mac studio and MacBook air combination 🤪
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well here we see someone talking who doesnt know anything about SoC/CPUs. Even tho they quite similar The band-with of memory and their configuration are quite different. The Die Size and Performance are not the measuring for which Generation chip it is
If you want a REAL upgrade, you'll wait until 2027 and the 2nm M5 - that will really blow your socks off.
But wait - if you wait until 2031, you'll get the 1nm M8, which will make everything that exists today look like a child's toy.
It's an M1 in the same sense that the current Intel Core i9 chips are just updated 386's with some 64-bit support tacked on.
I wish threads about arbitrary things would disappear off the Internet. It's contributing the entropy death of the universe rather than anything useful
I suspect that unless you are involved in video production, image manipulation or gaming, you’re not going to see a noticeable real world difference between the M1 or M2 (and you probably want the M2 MBP).
The new MBA form factor will be more of a pull for most people, than performance gains.
The $999 M1 MBA still seems a great deal to me.
The new MBA form factor will be more of a pull for most people, than performance gains.
The $999 M1 MBA still seems a great deal to me.
These aren't constant. They are up to. In short, in certain mathematical operations they can reach up to 18-20% and up to 35% GPU performance per clock cycle. Across the board you're more likely to say, 9% IPC improvement over M1.
I agree with this part.
The performance gains with the M2 are nothing to scoff at imo, but it’s also nothing that would make me want to run out and get a new laptop.
With the demise of the wedge shape and them not going with iMac-like colors as I’d hoped, I’m not all that interested in the MBA 2022 in general, though.
Well, maybe you could argue that there is no IPC for performance cores, and yes, there is small improvement. However, power efficient cores performance are almost at level of performance cores from Qualcom snapdragon.
When you take a look at the list of differences between M1 and M2, it really deserves to be called M2.
20% faster CPU
35% faster GPU
50% faster memory bandwidth
Max memory increased by 50%
Media encoders that cut video exporting by like 80%
And no matter what I think, or what you think, Apple themselves called it M2.
I don't know why such threads exist...
20% faster CPU
35% faster GPU
50% faster memory bandwidth
Max memory increased by 50%
Media encoders that cut video exporting by like 80%
And no matter what I think, or what you think, Apple themselves called it M2.
I don't know why such threads exist...
Comments like these are frustrating and disappointing to me. Are they accurate, yeah, actually! However, people need an escape to talk about something they care about or are trying to understand better.
Also, if these threads are so arbitrary or there are more important things to discuss, then why the heck are you browsing through a forum!?
Apple strategically teases out product releases by giving us the runt of the litter with the first release, doing exciting marketing and giving everyone fomo, only to then gradually give each subsequent machine more of everything.
The M2 chips in the next MBPs or Mac Studios, or whatever, might as well be 5nm chips as they could be <5nm chips.
Apple will weigh its option and knows when it's time to really impress its various consumer demographics. It's what it does best.
The M2 chips in the next MBPs or Mac Studios, or whatever, might as well be 5nm chips as they could be <5nm chips.
Apple will weigh its option and knows when it's time to really impress its various consumer demographics. It's what it does best.
You do realize the number and the name is a marketing term, not a technical specification? Apple could color the CPU in a different color and call it M2 if they want.
They think a 20% faster CPU warrants a new number. This is in line with (and, actually over) industry expectations. I don't see a problem.
I cannot believe some of the threads in this forum. who gives a (%*&#$ how the chip was manufactured lol. You are a USER of it. Unless you are worried about the lack of silicone in the world, you should instead ask does it work well? is it faster? etc.
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