@filmgirl,
The fans on the 14" M3 Max are not something you hear unless you're pushing it to its limits all the time, like in a render. For 99% of work, you won't notice anything.
Not so concerned about noise during rendering, just don't want to listen to any fans while I'm using the laptop for day-to-day stuff, and I suppose also don't want to hear things during light-to-medium editing.
Does what you say hold up as the temperature goes up? (e.g. working in my car, or a hot summer day)
In either scenario, I'd recommend the 36GB RAM option -- and it's a $400 difference between the Pro with 36GB and the "base" level M3 Max (so $2799 vs $3199).
My ancient rMBP has 16GB of RAM. Is 36GB enough? (I have heard that a GB of "unified memory" is not the same as a GB or "old-fashioned memory.)
If Apple offered more choices - like it always did until now, I would prefer at least 64GB...
Since you don't really know what you want and don't have any video editing experience on which to judge your needs, I personally don't think you need to go for the Max -- but if $400 is insignificant to you, you're not going to be hurting yourself.
I'm not rich, but I'd gladly spent $5,000+ if there was a benefit to me in it.
What I don't want is to spend any amount and get what sounds like a cheap wall-unit air conditioner in August!
And I don't want to buy something which goes unused and doesn't make me better off.
Whichever way I go, I know I will be giving Apple a premium as I plan on getting a 4TB SSD (i.e. $1,000+), and also get as much RAM as possible.
But don't fall into the trap of over-buying because you think you need more than you do, unless you can budget for that. (I say this as someone who frequently overbuys on the power I need -- but I'm at least aware that I'm doing that and know the potential trade-offs.)
I usually over-buy also, and have never regretted it, however, this time is different.
To me, you can never had too big of a hard-drive or too much RAM.
I think what has spooked me about the M3 Max is the some people saying online that it is noticeably noisy. And others say it runs really warm-to-hot.
When this ancient rMBP acts up, and the fans kick it, it can be really annoying. And while it might be okay in January, I don't want my laptop feeling like a space heater.
Yes, the 14" M3 Max can make noise -- no, it's certainly not an always-on thing and it isn't what I would consider a problem. I have the 16/40 Max with 128GB of RAM -- so this is the noisiest and most thermally limited option (also the most powerful) -- and unless I'm doing massive local AI stuff or working with RED footage with lots of effects, I really don't hear the fans at all.
Okay, now you have my respect! *LOL*
Yeah, no RED footage quit yet for me!
I was looking at the model you have, and a friend spoke up and mentioned two things...
1.) Is this too much computer for your needs?
2.) Apparently the M3 Max has some "Media offline" issues in Da Vinci Resolve, and it is impacting a lot of M3 Max owners. (Not sure if this is an Apple issue, or a Blackmagic Design issue, or a Sonoma issue, or an H.265 issue?)
BTW, would I have that same issue even if I go with an M3 Pro?
I will say, if my main use case for the machine was to edit video day in and day out, in large volumes and in high resolution, I would have chosen the 16" M3 Max, just because the laws of thermodynamics cannot be overcome. But that isn't what I do most of the day, so a 14" machine is what I chose. The noise it makes when it needs to push itself is a fine trade-off, for me.
I am starting a business, and hope to be publishing content several times a week. It is a combination or talking-head videos and interviews. So the content will typically be longer (e.g. 10-30 minutes) on average.
It is 4K video, but honestly I think most of what I will be doing is trimming, adjusting levels, and adding in text and basic graphics. I am still on-the-fence with shooting RAW or Log and getting into color-grading - Is it worth the time and effort for my needs?
As time permits, I want to get into motion graphics (e.g. Fusion) and certainly up my game to get the most professional looking videos possible. But truth be told, if I am to be successful, it will be because I have PHENOMENAL CONTENT, and because I really nail things like sound, lighting, and exposure.
Oh, I do have tons of compressed iPhone and GoPro footage that needs editing, so there is that too.
If I can get by with a 14" MacBook Pro with 12-core CPU, 18-core GPU, 36GB of RAM, and a 4TB SSD to handle what I described above, then that would be great. But if I need the top-of-the-line model like you have, then so be it.
But the vast majority of the time, I don't hear anything. That isn't to say that there isn't still noise emitting from the Mac (it is actively cooled, of course it is), but I don't exist in a soundproof space and the noise is not something that impacts me 98% of the time. And when it does, because I'm doing something very CPU/GPU intensive, I'm fine with it.
As I would be okay with that too.
This isn't like the older Intel MacBook Pros that would make noise anytime you opened a program.
Or (*cough*) like 40 Firefox tabs of the news?! ;-)
These are not only appropriately cooled (though again, laws of physics remain and so the smaller chassis machines are going to throttle a tiny bit and be louder than the 16" models), the chips were optimized for power efficiency.
Okay.
I can't compare the M3 Pro to the M3 Max because I've only got the M3 Max, but I will say that my experience using a 14" M1 Max (64GB of RAM and 32-core GPU) and a 16" M1 Pro (32GB of RAM, 16-core GPU) for video editing is that the real differences come in with motion work on export times when working with footage that is going to be much larger than what you're shooting with your iPhone or GoPro.
I am also saving up for a Sony a7S iii for my talking head videos.
Does that change your recommendation?
And, I am also also saving up for a new iPhone 15 Pro Max.
If I get either of those, and start shooting in Pro Res 4.2.2 - mainly to make editing easier and quicker - does that change your advice?
The Max is better and if you're in a position where time is money and every second counts, sure, go for the Max. But all of these chips are really, really similar until you get up to edge cases or unless you have other requirements (like RAM) that necessitate going with one config versus another.
The 14" MacBook Pro, M3 Pro that I described above costs $3,800.
What are your thoughts an a 14" MacBook Pro, M3 Max with 14-core CPU, 30-core GPU, 96GB RAM, and a 4TB SSD?
That one comes in at $5,000 and would be somewhere between the M3 Pro and the monster you own!
Is there any benefit to that configuration? Or would I have to get the maxed-out Max - like you have - to really see large gains?
And, I know you covered it already, but how would the two configurations above - to your best guess - compare when it comes to noise and heat?
Thanks for the help so far!