Yeah it would only work with screen plugged to that. And since we didn't get TB3 we'd be seriously crippling the eGPU on the connection speed. Even if we had TB3 while it may support some current throughputs I think the new display card standards supposedly coming with Skylake (though they are lacking in iMac) would be again faster than TB3 and you'd end up loosing speed of the card again just on the connection
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Yeah it would only work with screen plugged to that. And since we didn't get TB3 we'd be seriously crippling the eGPU on the connection speed. Even if we had TB3 while it may support some current throughputs I think the new display card standards supposedly coming with Skylake (though they are lacking in iMac) would be again faster than TB3 and you'd end up loosing speed of the card again just on the connection
It's not about nVidia GPU's support of 5k. The point is that you can't get signal from eGPU to iMac screen. you'd be forced to buy an extra monitor just to be able to use that eGPU. It would have no effect on iMac's own screen
Yes, there're these TWO problems that prevent from using eGPU from Nvidia.
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Ok, so I've read through all this thread and the other benchmarks thread and I'm still a bit unsure on what to order. 
A small business has asked me to help them replace their 4 iMac's from 2008. The business does VHS to DVD and other encoding jobs for mostly home users (like home video's, soccer games, kids graduations, etc.)
This was about a month ago and I suggested to wait for the line refresh rumored to be coming soon. The owner didn't want to wait so I got him a G0QX4LL/A from the online refurb store for $2459. The 3 other employee machines were going wait and get the 21" refreshes.
The 21" refreshes unfortunately don't have dedicated graphics which worried me so when we met yesterday we decided just 2 more 27" iMacs.
I'm tempted to max them out since it's a small cost over time, but I just can't justify making the business spend more money just because....especially for maybe marginal (and costly) upgrades. So I'm thinking the 3.2Ghz i5 with 16GB, 2TB Fusion, and M390. $2399
Also, do you think I should attempt to return the refurb for a 3rd of this years model? Or should I do 2 more of last years top end refurbs?
A small business has asked me to help them replace their 4 iMac's from 2008. The business does VHS to DVD and other encoding jobs for mostly home users (like home video's, soccer games, kids graduations, etc.)
This was about a month ago and I suggested to wait for the line refresh rumored to be coming soon. The owner didn't want to wait so I got him a G0QX4LL/A from the online refurb store for $2459. The 3 other employee machines were going wait and get the 21" refreshes.
The 21" refreshes unfortunately don't have dedicated graphics which worried me so when we met yesterday we decided just 2 more 27" iMacs.
I'm tempted to max them out since it's a small cost over time, but I just can't justify making the business spend more money just because....especially for maybe marginal (and costly) upgrades. So I'm thinking the 3.2Ghz i5 with 16GB, 2TB Fusion, and M390. $2399
Also, do you think I should attempt to return the refurb for a 3rd of this years model? Or should I do 2 more of last years top end refurbs?
Totally agree with your spec you have suggested, but upgrade the ram yourself as the apple cost is a joke. i7 and 395x is a complete waste for most people.
I hammer my iMacs with VMs, encoding, gaming etc and I still only get the i5 model, the i7 just never seems a worthwhile investment for me, it may shave a couple of seconds off a project but it usually comes with annoying fan noise as a result.
My i5 6600 3.3ghz with 395m has remained silent throughout my benchmarks and stress tests (in my benchmark thread).
I hammer my iMacs with VMs, encoding, gaming etc and I still only get the i5 model, the i7 just never seems a worthwhile investment for me, it may shave a couple of seconds off a project but it usually comes with annoying fan noise as a result.
My i5 6600 3.3ghz with 395m has remained silent throughout my benchmarks and stress tests (in my benchmark thread).
silent as in "masked by the music", or silent as in "cannot be heard, even when the sound is muted"?
I have been running the iMac muted whilst i tested so I could hear fan noise and so far I have not heard the fan increase. It is definitely quieter than our i5/m290x model (when gaming on my m290x it would be quiet for half a round of BF4 then I would hear the fan which still isn't noisey compared to a mbp but very present). So far even playing BF4 I have not heard the fan but it does allow the temps to go higher, It tops out at 98c in BF4. My guess is that it runs as hot as the old i5/m290x but apple have changed the profile to be quieter at the expense of temps
Just played 2 hours of bf4, temp hits 98c after about 15mins and stays there, the fan must increase a bit but I couldn't hear it, and I played with sound muted. No throttling at all just must be apple wanted quiet.
Would worry me if I didn't have apple care and I may also look at increasing the fans myself in bootcamp.
Performance wise is a bit meh, played at 1440p ultra and frames often dipped into the 30's on a busy 64 player server. 1440p high settings is a pretty solid 60 (as in it will drop to mid 50s on a rare occasion) so will stick with that
Would worry me if I didn't have apple care and I may also look at increasing the fans myself in bootcamp.
Performance wise is a bit meh, played at 1440p ultra and frames often dipped into the 30's on a busy 64 player server. 1440p high settings is a pretty solid 60 (as in it will drop to mid 50s on a rare occasion) so will stick with that
Desperate for an m395x benchmark so i can see if i can pull the trigger on a new iMac.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a top end 27" with upgraded CPU and 1TB SSD but wondering if I should to jump from the M395 to the M395X?
This machine will primarily be for design work, no gaming and only occasional video editing. Obviously things are still unknown until the benchmarks arrive, and my main concern is noise if the fans are ramping up vs future proofing and performance gain. Worth the upgrade?
This machine will primarily be for design work, no gaming and only occasional video editing. Obviously things are still unknown until the benchmarks arrive, and my main concern is noise if the fans are ramping up vs future proofing and performance gain. Worth the upgrade?
Ok, so I've read through all this thread and the other benchmarks thread and I'm still a bit unsure on what to order.
A small business has asked me to help them replace their 4 iMac's from 2008. The business does VHS to DVD and other encoding jobs for mostly home users (like home video's, soccer games, kids graduations, etc.)
This was about a month ago and I suggested to wait for the line refresh rumored to be coming soon. The owner didn't want to wait so I got him a G0QX4LL/A from the online refurb store for $2459. The 3 other employee machines were going wait and get the 21" refreshes.
The 21" refreshes unfortunately don't have dedicated graphics which worried me so when we met yesterday we decided just 2 more 27" iMacs.
I'm tempted to max them out since it's a small cost over time, but I just can't justify making the business spend more money just because....especially for maybe marginal (and costly) upgrades. So I'm thinking the 3.2Ghz i5 with 16GB, 2TB Fusion, and M390. $2399
Also, do you think I should attempt to return the refurb for a 3rd of this years model? Or should I do 2 more of last years top end refurbs?
Any video compression demands an i7. It could save hem untold hours over the lives of the computers.Ok, so I've read through all this thread and the other benchmarks thread and I'm still a bit unsure on what to order.
A small business has asked me to help them replace their 4 iMac's from 2008. The business does VHS to DVD and other encoding jobs for mostly home users (like home video's, soccer games, kids graduations, etc.)
This was about a month ago and I suggested to wait for the line refresh rumored to be coming soon. The owner didn't want to wait so I got him a G0QX4LL/A from the online refurb store for $2459. The 3 other employee machines were going wait and get the 21" refreshes.
The 21" refreshes unfortunately don't have dedicated graphics which worried me so when we met yesterday we decided just 2 more 27" iMacs.
I'm tempted to max them out since it's a small cost over time, but I just can't justify making the business spend more money just because....especially for maybe marginal (and costly) upgrades. So I'm thinking the 3.2Ghz i5 with 16GB, 2TB Fusion, and M390. $2399
Also, do you think I should attempt to return the refurb for a 3rd of this years model? Or should I do 2 more of last years top end refurbs?
Here is an idea for buying a 27" iMac, which I am considering buying myself: buy the low or mid range 27" iMac with the base 8GB of RAM and with the 256GB SSD upgrade, then buy on the OWC website their 32GB RAM for this late 2015 model: 1867DDR3S32S for $264 at this time, and finally buy MyDigitalSSD 512GB external USB 3.0 SSD for $200 (on Amazon) - this is where I'll put my time machine backup and still have plenty left for large folders/files (especially those that I don't use frequently) and that I'll exclude from the internal smaller SSD - so there will be enough space left there, too. The decision between the low or mid range 27" is mostly due to the GPU M380 vs. M390. If I am correct, the M390 is much faster than the M380, and in addition, in the mid range iMac the 256GB SSD upgrade costs $100 vs. the low end iMac, where it costs $200. Due to this discount, you save $100, and since the base mid range costs only $200 more than the low model, the difference in price including the SSD is only $100 - very little, so it definitely seems a better bargain to choose the mid range (for a total of only $100 more). To sum it up, for $2,500 - $2,600 you will have the mid-range retina 27" iMac with 32GB of RAM, super-fast internal 256GB SSD, and a speedy external 512GB SSD. Seems "more than good enough" for moderately high performance computer at a reasonable cost.
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Comparison of M390 to M380 (both 4GB, so will probably be same relation for both being 2GB): http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/inde...pare=radeon-r9-m390-4gb-vs-radeon-r9-m380-4gb
So you are saying it's exactly the same card as a m290x.
Still weird as other sites don't mention the card. Also that's would make it the only model with GCN1.1
AMD themselfs lists an R9 M385X which is basically a souped up m380 and the list an M390x which is the same as a M395x (probably slow clocked). Notebookcheck.net als only has these cards on their GPU listing.
I'm gonna get the same setup this week (fingers crossed!).
Just to throw it in here: The M295X in the last iMac could achieve 3.482 Teraflops while running at 850 MHz (factor 4.09647)
The M395X should achieve 2.961 Teraflops while running at 723 Mhz (factor 4.09543).
Assuming Apples 3.7 Teraflop number is correct, the new M395X should run at around 900 MHz (3.700/4.0959 - averaging both factors)
Just wondering if there is a new architecture under all this, last year there was a tremendous difference between M290X and M295X.
This year it seems the M395 and the M395X differ around 256 shaders and 70 MHz, right? Here is a GPU-Z screenie of ninja2000s M395.
Dropped by the local apple store. They had two 5k retinas. One with the m395; one with the m390.
Since we know about the m395, I passed it by...
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my m290x gets 6935 on luxmark, 25.9 avg, 8.1 min, 59.6 max, score 652.
So the m390 isn't that far behind.
1961 gigaflops, perhaps?
Since we know about the m395, I passed it by...
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my m290x gets 6935 on luxmark, 25.9 avg, 8.1 min, 59.6 max, score 652.
So the m390 isn't that far behind.
1961 gigaflops, perhaps?
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I was so focused on the graphics card I didn't think much about the i7, but yes I see the extra cache and threads will help. Thanks for pointing that out. Someone mentioned RAM to, I'll skip the add on here and purchase aftermarket if they still have the rear panel for DIY.
If Apple still lets me return the refurb I think I may still do that to get the newer chips. If not, oh well.
Thanks.