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Mac mini and 16gb ram?
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While I am not pushing my Mini, I can afford to wait for Samsung RAM to come down in price before I upgrade from 8 GB to 16 GB. I have usually more than 5.5 GB free running a few tabs in Chrome and X-chat Azure.
I found this on a german website.
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p770918/
They're offering 8GB RAM for 74 Euro. Much cheaper than OWC or Samsung. So I'm wondering if they are really compatible with the Mini.
DDR3-1333 SO-DIMM 204pins. That fits!
However, what bothers me is this: PC3-10667S vs. PC-10600 in OWC and Samsung chips. Could this cause problems or decrease in performance?
Why the huge price difference?
Anyone?
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p770918/
They're offering 8GB RAM for 74 Euro. Much cheaper than OWC or Samsung. So I'm wondering if they are really compatible with the Mini.
DDR3-1333 SO-DIMM 204pins. That fits!
However, what bothers me is this: PC3-10667S vs. PC-10600 in OWC and Samsung chips. Could this cause problems or decrease in performance?
Why the huge price difference?
Anyone?
I am certain they work> i purchased 4 of them tested them and sold them a while back. As to how long they will Last? who knows.
I've purchased 48GB of the Corsair and currently have it running in a 2011 15" MacBook Pro and a 2011 27" iMac. No issues so far. These were originally spread across three 2011 Mac Minis. I didn't see any improvement for my needs. The Kingston Hyper X 1866MHz benefited me more in the Mac Minis. The MacBook Pro and iMac are used for photo editing so the extra memory helped dramatically (up to 24GB, the move to 32GB provided no real world performance gain). I tested all memory mentioned above with 4 cycles of Rember and 20 loops of Geekbench stress test. By the time these die, of they do, the replacement price will be negligible. I'm actually more worried about the life of the Kingston Hyper X PnP 1866MHz.
Prior to you purchasing them, did you see if anyone had issues with them?
Ask yourself this and play both the optimist and the realist in this case.
How long do you want the RAM to last and how long do you actually think the RAM will last?
For the Corsair memory philipma picked his up at the same time, I may purchased it slightly earlier on my newegg iPhone app because stock was hard to come by at that time. Basically we trusted the standard and new that OWC already tested the quantity.
The Kingston Hyper X PnP 1866MHz was a gamble after reading the MacBook Pro forums. But again the standard accepts that bus speed so I took the dive. I had 3 Mac Mini's at one point with Kingston Hyper X but sold it in a effort to reduce heat (see threads on mid range Mac Mini's with discrete graphic running hot) but it was definitely not a problem or even a contributor.
Apple does not state these specs like PC manufacturers do with "up to..." statements. Apple only tells you what they carry in BTO options and has a long history.
Now you want to know bleeding edge build look in my signature at my 2011 Mac Mini Server with a Sandforce 2281 based OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS and Kingston Hyper X 1866 MHz. This system has been torture tested and proven reliable. I had a very difficult time flashing firmware for the Vertex 3, but that's part of being on the bleeding edge. I could probably disassemble a 2011 Mac Mini blind folded now.
Longevity wise I hope all parts last the useful lifetime of the computer. Lately, I've had to return two year old SSDs because they began stuttering and tried multiple RAM configurations when I first received my 2010 iMac to get it stable at that time 16GB, now at 32GB. The moral, rely on the manufacturer warranty. I typically like 5 year warranties, but 3 is probably useful life in our household.
I WOULD say the kingston ram should work.
I opted for a different bleeding edge idea. One server mini has kingston 1600MHz ram and is using a 512gb raid0 little big disk t-bolt as the boot drive. working great with amazing speed.
So far the 2011 mac mini 's seem to like almost every ram I have used. They appear to tolerate ram mixing and over clocking with no problems. I have used;
gskill 1333 8gb kit
corsair 1333 8gb and 16gb kits
pny 1333 8gb kit
elipda 1333 8gb 12gb and 16gb kits
samsung 1333 8gb 12gb 16gb kits
last for my own use two 8gb kits of kingston 1600
Also any mixture of 1gb 2gb oem ram worked.
I have been unable to find any bad ram other then 1 pair of sticks from gskill.
Since gskill has been a good price at newegg. I must be 49 for 50 with them. It failed at the test boot so I just put different set of sticks and bingo.
Now this does not mean your results will be as good as mine but remember I sell these on ebay all over the usa and my return rate was one machine out of 50 plus. not for bad ram but a bad ssd.
I sell Mostly base 2.3 models but a few of every kind. I don't fear ram issues for 2011 mac minis. what worries me is what happens to the minis this spring when the hdd factory in asia is repaired will a lot of mini's get bad hdds' .
I may take a break from selling them this spring.
@shortcut3d/ philipma1957
Do you have by any chance some RAM test results of the Corsair and Kingston HyperX regarding performance etc with the Mini, so I'll be able to compare them to mine?
Before buying I want to be a 100% sure, that there will be no performance loss.
Would greatly appreciate it!
Do you have by any chance some RAM test results of the Corsair and Kingston HyperX regarding performance etc with the Mini, so I'll be able to compare them to mine?
Before buying I want to be a 100% sure, that there will be no performance loss.
Would greatly appreciate it!
I sold off the corsair I may have a few tests on them but I can show you a new geek bench test for the kingston 1600 plug n play in 5 minutes. here are back to back 64 bit geekench tests. both are with kingston plug n play 1600 both use the 2011 server just look at the memory scores
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The CORSAIR 16GB is now down to $219.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233217
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233217
I just grabbed this, all I need now is my new 2011 server. Thanks to all who keep sharing the knowledge here.
Hello everyone. I have to say I'm stumped. I have a Mac mini 2.3 GHz on order with 4 GB of Apple Ram coming soon. I'm currently have a Windows laptop machine running Linux & only using 3 GB of ram.
I can run as many apps as I want with no slow down with only 3 GB of ram. Is OS X Lion a ram hog or something? Are you guys saying that if I don't have at least 8 GB of ram my machine will be slow?
Is Mac a resource hog? Or is Linux better at managing ram, I thought that Apple & Linux was based on the same platform, if so wouldn't that mean both systems manage ran equally?
I just hope that 4 GB will be enough for me. All I do with my Linux is surf the web, e-mail, photo-editing with Gimp, video-editing with Handbrake, word processing with Libeoffice, I can have all these programs open at the same time with no slow down, can I do this with a Mac or would I need 8 GB of ram to do this with?
I can run as many apps as I want with no slow down with only 3 GB of ram. Is OS X Lion a ram hog or something? Are you guys saying that if I don't have at least 8 GB of ram my machine will be slow?
Is Mac a resource hog? Or is Linux better at managing ram, I thought that Apple & Linux was based on the same platform, if so wouldn't that mean both systems manage ran equally?
I just hope that 4 GB will be enough for me. All I do with my Linux is surf the web, e-mail, photo-editing with Gimp, video-editing with Handbrake, word processing with Libeoffice, I can have all these programs open at the same time with no slow down, can I do this with a Mac or would I need 8 GB of ram to do this with?
8gb ram is under 40 bucks for usa buyers. just buy the 8gb ram.
did you buy the machine from apple online with 4gb ram inside as an option. if so you wasted a lot of money.
I would like to know why you purchased 4gb ram not 8gb ram.
If you keep the app usage as low as you're insinuating (web, email, Gimp, etc.), you will be fine with 4 GB. Hell, I still have my white macbook with only 4 GB of RAM and Lion, and it runs like a champ when only using 2 or 3 apps at once. However, my Mini typically has 12-15, sometimes as high as 20 apps opened at once. I wouldn't recommend this kind of usage on 4 GB of RAM.
Also, as phillipma has stated, 8 GB RAM is super cheap nowadays, why not just get it in case you need it one day?
It seems with the 2011 Mini's and the new Intel CPU's the more the merrier, I am running 4GB of 1067 ram on a base 2011 mini, and this thing lags, so ordered 8GB 1333 from Crucial hopefully this will help.
2011's seem Ram hungry, anyone else notice this, seems like the more you give them the more they eat. This could be Lion also.
2011's seem Ram hungry, anyone else notice this, seems like the more you give them the more they eat. This could be Lion also.
4 GB 1067 MHz? Is that from your 2010 Mini? Or did you mean 1333 MHz?
I went immediately from 2 GB to 8 GB in my Mini and so far so good. I would even go with 16 GB if it were available from Samsung (or from OWC or Crucial) and when it gets cheaper.
I went immediately from 2 GB to 8 GB in my Mini and so far so good. I would even go with 16 GB if it were available from Samsung (or from OWC or Crucial) and when it gets cheaper.
OS X is NOT a resource hog. It's jut Mac users like to run more things at the same time. More RAM let you run more things at once.
Nope it was 4GB of 1067 RAM from my 2009 Mini, still waiting for my 8GB kit to come from Crucial
Patriot model is $189.99 after mail in rebate here:
http://www.ramexperts.com/patriot-p...c3-10600-apple-mac-mini-imac-macbook-pro.html
http://www.ramexperts.com/patriot-p...c3-10600-apple-mac-mini-imac-macbook-pro.html
Sorry I missed this earlier. Here are a few Geekbench scores. Pay close attention to the models. Windows scores divide the memory speed in half.
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/504241
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/491465
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/488313
