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Mac Pro 2011 "Sandy Bridge E" everything we know

blunti said:
not sure about you guys, but to me these clock speeds seem very slow.
(except the one thats 3.xx)

might turn out that current 12 core 2.93 is faster than most of those new ones...
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That is low-power one as the TDP is only 70W. 130W chips will run at much higher frequency. Besides, ES samples are always ES.
 
Hellhammer said:
That is low-power one as the TDP is only 70W. 130W chips will run at much higher frequency. Besides, ES samples are always ES.
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So just out of curiousity, with these Engineering Samples leaked, are we looking at a "very soon" release date, or leaked ES means nothing when it comes to predicting possible release dates?
 
blunti said:
great! so this means anywhere between october to december. And hopefully apple gets them a bit earlier ....
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All the big vendors will get them before Intel's launch date. I don't think going to see a repeat of Apple jumping out of the gate before launch again. What they seem have done a couple years back is estimate that their demand was going to be lower than the initial volume of supply that Intel was providing to all the larger sever vendors pre-launch.

I'm sure that pissed off the others who were still going down their more conservative checklists with testing, performance profiling, and test field deployments. Intel CEO on Romley, Socket 2011 being on track:

"...We have not gone public on the launch date because our server customers are very conservative about putting the dates out. ..."
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Inte...2011-Romley-Platform-Is-On-Track-212763.shtml

Apple may buy many Xeons but everyone else in this class buys lots more. It wouldn't be hard to put a 'don't rock the boat' clause into the contract for Apple.


Server vendors don't what the kinds of think that happened when vendors rushed to push the inital Sandy-Bridge offerings out to market this yet only to find out the support chip had a SATA glitch when you loaded it down with multiple drives. PCI-e v3.0 isn't going to help "early release" here either (since it is new the conservative folks will be double checking. ). Not saying they'll miss date but "early" is pushing it.

It wouldn't be surpising if this was late oct - mid november before the launch. ( Apple did a 20" G4 iMac launch as late as November 18th 2003 )

the X79 (which apple isnt likely to use) and the higher end Patsburg (also not likely to use) might be announced but not shipped at Intel's launch in Q4.
 
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blunti said:
If I'm understanding this right then MP prices will most likely stay the same as they are now even with this new lineup...?
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Not necessarily.

The prices are for the SP variants, not the DP units (no pricing yet on these, but this is where they have users over the proverbial barrel).

Now even if the DP parts don't rise in costs, there's other components that could drive up the price, such as the new chipset, PCB (more traces to route), and particularly if Apple does add a Thunderbolt port.

So a price increase isn't improbable.
 
Sorry if this question has already been answered, looked about and couldn't see any mention of it;

Will these new CPUs be LGA1366? (ie, could I slap one in my MacPro5,1, presumably with some EFI hack)

If not, I'm assuming the release of these CPUs will lower the price of the likes of the W5590 etc.
 
Draeconis said:
Sorry if this question has already been answered, looked about and couldn't see any mention of it;

Will these new CPUs be LGA1366? (ie, could I slap one in my MacPro5,1, presumably with some EFI hack)

If not, I'm assuming the release of these CPUs will lower the price of the likes of the W5590 etc.
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No. These CPUs will utilize LGA 2011 socket (and reportedly low-end DP models will use LGA 1356) so no, you cannot use these CPUs in 2009 or 2010 Mac Pro.
 
Eidorian said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4626/info-on-sandy-bridgee-pricing

Anandtech followup as well.
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Yeah, I know, I wrote that ;)

It will be fun to see the Core i7 2600K go against the Core i7 3820.
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I think it will boil down to the price difference between X79 and P67/H67/Z68. The CPUs are similarly priced but X79 might make the mobos noticeable more expensive, and thus i7-3820 less appealing. In the end, most people won't be needing the extra SATA ports and PCIe lanes (those who do will definitely want LGA 2011 though).
 
Hellhammer said:
I think it will boil down to the price difference between X79 and P67/H67/Z68. The CPUs are similarly priced but X79 might make the mobos noticeable more expensive, and thus i7-3820 less appealing. In the end, most people won't be needing the extra SATA ports and PCIe lanes (those who do will definitely want LGA 2011 though).
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We get a repeat situation again as it was under the Lynnfield launch. Though now we get Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge on the mainstream LGA 1155 long before it shows up on the enthusiast/Xeon side.
 
So as more details have been emerging on the specifics of the processors, is there any guess on the max RAM the new dual processor Mac Pros will support?
 
wallysb01 said:
So as more details have been emerging on the specifics of the processors, is there any guess on the max RAM the new dual processor Mac Pros will support?
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Same as current.

No extra slots because it will be quad channel memory, so 5/10 slots are well... pointless!

Small possibly of 8/16 slots but the space might be an issue on that front.

So 4x8GB (32GB) for SP and 8x8GB (64GB) for DP.
 
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