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Mac Pro 3,1 and Metal?
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Ok so I guess I am better off sticking to the gtx1060 that I already have since I will be stuck to High Sierra anyway (because of CUDA).
And just to make sure I understood correctly: if it were not for CUDA, I could use a Kepler GPU like the gtx780 6GB and upgrade to Catalina? (this would I guess explain the still quite high price of the gtx780ti 6Gb...)
What workflow do you run that you use Cuda for?
I’d honestly be surprised you need Cuda at all.
I use Matlab with some of my code running on GPU (I am mostly doing image processing for my experimental data).
(And also I already have an GTX1060 6Gb so I was hoping I could use it instead of buying another GPU...
It is a shame that CUDA is no longer supported by macOS>10.13.x
(And also I already have an GTX1060 6Gb so I was hoping I could use it instead of buying another GPU...
It is a shame that CUDA is no longer supported by macOS>10.13.x
Ok, so I manage to install the GTX 1060 6Gb (with a dual mini-PCIe cable) on High Sierra using @dosdude1 ’s patch (thank you again!). At first the driver that I got from insanelymac did not work so I search and found on this page that I should run the following script:
which indeed allowed me to get the driver installed.
Thank you @tsialex and @Ludacrisvp for your help and patience.
I however have a resolution issue (that I did not have when on El Capitan using my now removed Nvidia Quadro 4000): the display seems "overscanned" (I believe this is the term). In other words, I cannot see the top of the screen (the main menu bar with the Apple logo), nor that I can see the whole sides and bottom of what should actually be displayed.
The screen that I am using for now is a 32" Roku TV (I need to buy a screen :-S but for now this is what I have).
Any idea how I could fix this? The System preferences menu does not seem to provide any help in solving this issue.
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bash <(curl -s https://vulgo.github.io/webdriver) 387.10.10.10.40.113Thank you @tsialex and @Ludacrisvp for your help and patience.
I however have a resolution issue (that I did not have when on El Capitan using my now removed Nvidia Quadro 4000): the display seems "overscanned" (I believe this is the term). In other words, I cannot see the top of the screen (the main menu bar with the Apple logo), nor that I can see the whole sides and bottom of what should actually be displayed.
The screen that I am using for now is a 32" Roku TV (I need to buy a screen :-S but for now this is what I have).
Any idea how I could fix this? The System preferences menu does not seem to provide any help in solving this issue.
TVs usually have a menu where you control over and under scan. If not, you can use an app like SwitchResX an others.
PS: by the way, for the records (and if I manage to get my hands on one of these), do you know it the GTX Titan Black is also natively compatible with Catalina? I read here that it should not require any driver, but I read here that the Titan Black requires Nvidia Webdrivers...
Also, what about the GTX 780Ti?
I still need my CUDA compatibility but maybe in the near future I'll have to upgrade my OS anyway and forget about my GPU computing and make it only CPU based.
Open the Wikipedia article about NVIDIA Kepler GPUs, you can use almost all Kepler GPUs with the Apple NVIDIA native driver. Usually all high end GPUs works perfectly, it's the low-end that the support is spotty. Even Tesla K20/K40 works.
But the Tesla have not display output, do they? And I though I could only use one GPU in a macpro, so how one would do to get a display with a Tesla?
You can use multiple GPUs with Mac Pro, up to four when you have a PCIe external chassis. Tesla K20/K40 are used just for CUDA.
Edit: add the missing PCIe.
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Do you mean external eGPU chassis? If so, are they compatible for old macs? I thought that was only on the most recent ones...?
The main factor is that MP5,1 official support ends with Mojave. Mojave is already on the second year of the three year support. So, after October 2021, MP5,1 will be totally unsupported by Apple and every owner will depend on hacks, like you are with your MP3,1 now.
If you can't buy a newer Mac, MP5,1 with Mojave works really well for most people.
Oh ok. Thank you. And performance-wise, would I have a real improvement from a 3,1 to a 5,1?
(SSD drive, 18Gb ram on my 3,1, 24Gb on the 5,1 I see advertised... Nehalem/Westmere, does it change anything?)
So far my macpro3,1 on High Sierra (on SSD) seems responsive, but I have not extensively used it, and High Sierra is indeed pretty old (I am not sure the software I am using, like Matlab, will be compatible for very long...).
(SSD drive, 18Gb ram on my 3,1, 24Gb on the 5,1 I see advertised... Nehalem/Westmere, does it change anything?)
So far my macpro3,1 on High Sierra (on SSD) seems responsive, but I have not extensively used it, and High Sierra is indeed pretty old (I am not sure the software I am using, like Matlab, will be compatible for very long...).
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MP3,1 needs a lot of fine tuning to perform acceptably, you have to set PCIe speeds to v2.0 from the default v1.0 for example, while MP5,1 have it all automatically.
Look at Geekbench scores for CPU performance.
Oh this I didn’t do... I just plugged in my SSD into a HD slot and my GPU (Nvidia GTX 1060) into the x16 slot.
Do I need to set PCIe speed to v2.0? Apparently some people say PCIe v1 is faster (on Windows at least)...?
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/296771/is-a-macpro3-1-2008-x16-slot-pcie-2-0-or-1-1
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Hi folks,
I hope you are well.
Also, when my Mac Pro goes on sleep mode, I have a really hard time waking it up. The (4K) screen (plugged into the HDMI port of my GTX 1060) does not detect any HDMI input. And pressing the keyboard or the startup button (briefly) does not wake the Mac. The workaround I found is to unplug the screen from the HDMI on the GPU, then hit any key on the keyboard and then plug back the HDMI cable (the screen it turned on this whole time, but black). Any idea? Does this come from the High Sierra patch or from the Nvidia driver, or from SwitchResX?
I hope you are well.
would you have a nice newbielevel tutorial to upgrade the PCIe to v2.0?
Also, when my Mac Pro goes on sleep mode, I have a really hard time waking it up. The (4K) screen (plugged into the HDMI port of my GTX 1060) does not detect any HDMI input. And pressing the keyboard or the startup button (briefly) does not wake the Mac. The workaround I found is to unplug the screen from the HDMI on the GPU, then hit any key on the keyboard and then plug back the HDMI cable (the screen it turned on this whole time, but black). Any idea? Does this come from the High Sierra patch or from the Nvidia driver, or from SwitchResX?